Media: Ron Paul delegate strategy is perfectly legitimate

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  1. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    the current bandwagon is crash gloom and doom, that's ron paul's forte
     
  2. Objectivism

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    he was right before...i wouldnt doubt his assertions

    btw, the bandwagon is what is being beaten proportionally in delegate counts relative to popular vote. bandwagon riders dont seem to have the same motivation to support romney as much as paul's supporters do.

    people who ride the bandwagon are the pack-mentality collectivists, the people who always try to wear the same clothes and listen to the same music and follow the same trends that everyone else does, regardless of what they want themselves, if they even still remember who they are. the bandwagon is ridden by the fools who believe their religion is right just because their parents who brought them into this world brought them into that particular religion...that particular political party...that particular drone mindset.

    the bandwagon is human adaptation at its worst, and individualism going extinct. ron paul is the destroyer of bandwagons
     
  3. dujac

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    i first saw ron paul speak in dallas over 30 years ago, he was as wrong then as has has been ever since


    it sounds to me like you're on the bandwagon
     
  4. Objectivism

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    its only a bandwagon if i'm supporting him for subjective reasons.

    the typical supporter of obama or romney is in support of their candidate for subjective reasons. they vote for them because of the way they 'feel' and their feelings have attached them to a political agenda, and therefore handed away their 'loyalty'...in other words they've bought a ticket on the wagon train.

    the swing voters 'feel' that one of the two must win, therefore they 'must' pick the lesser evil, but by doing so they are just hesitantly buying their ticket on the train.

    people don't approach democratic participation from a rational point of view. they dont actually ask themselves things like:

    what is wrong with this country?

    what needs to be done about it?

    they're simply too lazy...they accept the half-ass answers that politicians give them and believe it without question, just as they do any other kind of tribal fellowship ritual.

    ron paul asks himself those questions, and supplies answers to them. your politicians pretend the problems dont exist, and act as though they are in a race to become the leader of a flawless nation with no debt and consequence to foreign policy or domestic over-spending.

    in 4 years will our debt be higher? will we be hated more by the rest of the world? will our public safety-net programs be widening the gaping crack in the hull of this ship?

    i certainly hope not, but if you want the answer to be yes to all of those, vote for someone other than ron paul
     
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  5. dujac

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    you're only fooling yourself
     
  6. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    This backdoor end run by the Paul campaign is just pathetic. It may not be illegal, but it's pathetic. Of the states that have held primaries, not ONE of them has put a majority of their support towards Ron Paul during the primary voting. The people who claim he's electable don't have any evidence to back up their claims except for a handful of polls. The only reason we're even still talking about Ron Paul is because he's sneaking around convincing delegates to vote for him. Again, apparently not illegal in those states where the delegates are not bound by the results of primary voting, but here's to hoping the GOP fixes that little rule in the future. It's stupid to begin with. It's like saying "Hey people, come pick who the nominee is!" and then after the voting, going "Well, thanks for voting, but we never actually cared what you think anyway". So asinine, and now Ron Paul the Destroyer may sneak into the convention on the wings of insanity and rule bending. It should be funny to watch, as I've read reports that some of the delegates that have put their support to Paul won't be seated at the convention.

    Hey Ron Paul, when people aren't voting for you and you haven't won a single primary in the continental United States, and then you have to resort to shmoozing delegates behind the scenes and under the radar, that means you lost! Go home already, the country is bad enough as it is.
     
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    Like you do? you should learn how a republic works...When Ron Paul wins all you bashing thumping anti-Ron Paul people can finally **** for once, and be flushed down the (*)(*)(*)(*)ter along with rest of the establisment.
     
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    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now you are just repeating back to me what I've written to you. That's pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ed pathetic, even for a troll.
     
  9. Junkieturtle

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    You're half right. We won't necessarily "****", things will just be so bad that we'll be too depressed to talk.
     
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    as opposed to "give us trillions or crash gloom and doom" as your buddies on wall street and their whores in office keep telling us.
     
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    Dont you get that what you are doing is evil. You are acting self-righteous right now as the socialists you claim to be against.
     
  12. squid5689

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    Accept it Ron Paul is winning. He's playing smart, showing you how a REPUBLIC works for once for what he is doing with the delegate process. Rommney camp is the ones who are bending the rules where the Ron Paul camp is playing the game within the rules. Where is your evidence to back up that Rommney is nonimee? or even the delegate count?

    Now Ron Paul is finally winning, gaining ground all you can do rant and cry fowl. You're getting very confused of the differences of a Republic and a Democracy. A democracy is a majority rules type of process where the majority chooses the candidate. That is why we have choose people to go and represent you and then they do the same. That is where the Republican party got it's name because it supports a REPUBLIC.

    You speak of pathatic? when Rommney supporters get caught red handed handing out fake delegate slate sheets. That's pretty sad and them being very desperate. Media is blacking Ron Paul out doing everything in their power to get rid of him. Even Rommney people turn the lights out after the convention is done. How far is this going to go. I love to see the establishment scramble, being desperate for once bringing them to our level. The primaries involved nothing but fraud but you can't cheat the system as much in the delegate process. Ron Paul is the only one that can save this country from self-destruction. That is why we have a Republic not a democracy because our founding fathers knew this would come. Protect the minority by the majority mob rule.
     
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  13. Objectivism

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    when this country is so weak that zimbabwe can come over here and conquer us, i think the blind followers of the establishment (obama/romney and anyone else the media/corporate powers prop up), may finally realize how mindlessly foolish they are. until then it'll be like watching american idol re-runs...
     
  14. dujac

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    no, the fact is that ron paul has lost every state primary election to date

    and the gop leaders have no intentions of nominating him



    is that supposed to be a joke?
     
  15. dujac

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    you're mistaken
     
  16. Junkieturtle

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    Ron Paul is not going to win. He may get the delegates, but there's a reason people didn't VOTE for him, which is what will count in the general election. I never said he was breaking any rules, he's just trying to sneak in the back way against the will of the people who have voted. That's not the kind of guy I want in office, no matter who it is. It would be no different than if Obama kept power by some weird technicality. Even if I liked Obama up to that point, I certainly wouldn't afterwards.

    I just hope he retires after all this. His ideas are not much different than what you'd expect a high schooler to say(hmm, his highest support is from the younger crowd, I wonder if there's a connection????? :crazy: ), which is basically "no rules man, rules are a buzzkill man". I'm sorry, but just that type of attitude alone is enough of a detriment to make Paul unelectable in my eyes, but when you pile on the list of his plans, most of which are disastrous, he becomes the guy I don't want in office the most. I honestly couldn't tell you without weeks of agonizing contemplation if I would vote for Paul over Santorum, or Bachman, or Palin, and those three drove me around the corner.

    Do you think the primary voters, and those who would have voted the way they did if they didn't actually vote in the primaries, are going to be happy that the guy they voted for, in an unquestionable majority, is NOT the guy up on stage, instead replaced by the guy a lot of them thought was cooky, and he's demanding the nomination because he did some behind the scenes sneakery? You think they'll just accept Ron Paul because an extremely small percentage of people, the delegates, came to the convention and said they had to?

    Like I said, there's a reason he didn't win by votes, and that reason will become apparent in November if he faces Obama. (It will become apparent well before that, but I wanted to stretch it out as long as I could for you, Ron Paul supporters deserve some excitement too! :) )
     
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    So Following the Constitution is "no rules".. No (*)(*)(*)(*)ing wonder the same (*)(*)(*)(*)ing crooks keep getting elected. People like you vote...
     
  18. Objectivism

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    nah bro...take a look at history...the egyptian empire...roman empire...political corruption and overextending bounds have a habit of wrecking empires
     
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    Are you saying that he won't drill for oil in US territories? That by itself gets my vote the fact that he will. If he broke all his other promises at least this one will be kept or do you honestly think he won't?

    Are you saying that he won't work to change laws so companies like Apple can repatriate their money without being taxed to death? Do you honestly think he won't do this. Doing this alone is enough to get my vote. If Obama would do these two things he would get my vote.

    How about making it so that only US citizens can have jobs in the US and immigrants only get the jobs US citizens actually don't want as long as all those jobs at least pay a living wage that Americans can live on. If either of them does this they get my vote.

    Do you really believe that Romney won't try to get rid of Obamacare? The fact that he will gets my vote.

    So the things I think he will do are the things that will get my vote. The other things he flip flops on are mostly things I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about, in comparison to the things I've listed.
     
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    Majority of delegate votes.
     
  21. dujac

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    how would conquerers from zimbabwe get here, magic carpets?


    i've been looking at history for over 40 years and something tells me you don't really know much about those events
     
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    At least there would be a clear distinction between the two candidates and you people could actually vote for that smaller government candidate that you have been clambering for since bush started tarp.
     
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    same thing can be said about Iran.
    prime example of the failing government school system if you don't even know the Romans down fall was because their empire was too big to manage.
     
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    If people were really clamoring for a small government politician, they would have voted for Ron Paul and he would have won the primaries like people expect you to win them, by getting the most votes. Ron Paul couldn't hack that, so he's sneaking in the back way. Makes for a good narrative though for his supporters, Ron Paul the champion, Bringer of Light and Justice, walks onto the podium at the convention. I hope the camera's are rolling, we'll probably see a whole bunch of videos of awestruck potheads fainting.
     
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    if you knew much about roman history you'd understand that there are many theories about what actually caused rome to decline and even whether it was really a fall or just a complex transformation
     

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