Government wants more people on food stamps

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  1. mertex

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    Is that what dumbo George Bush thought when he spent trillions of our money on a worthless war? Not only money, but lives were lost. That's a wonderful commentary for Republican/conservatives. I'm sure you are very proud.
     
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    I just have one question.

    Why would the labor department want more people to sign up for food stamps?
     
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    Gets their "efficiency" numbers up...which might allow them to double their quarterly operational budget....
    or, might just qualify them for some multi-million dollar "convention" in Hawaii...
     
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    Its because they want more people that they can control.
     
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    Government agency seat warmers and desk kick stands don't get overall agenda goals from on high....they hear "more of this and that if you do so and so"
     
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    Nope. FDR. The New Deal sparked it all. Now our ******* government doesn't know how to say NO to the freeloaders.

    It's called "responsibility and accountability for ones self" something you *******s know nothing about.

    Oh so now it's those poor people that had high paying jobs? First you want to tax them to death, now that they're poor for not planning ahead and living within their means everyone else should pay for their own self misfortune? What a hypocrite.

    Who's getting rid of contraceptives? They're all over the place. Take a walk to 7-11, CVS, etc. Oh but wait, it's easier to go get that new iphone than some contraceptives..... Lazy. That's the *******s M.O.

    Why should they? *******s abuse and disrespect the freedoms that have been granted to this country. Why is it everyone else's fault and have to suffer because people like this?

    BTW, do you still live at home with mommy and daddy? You sound like one of those *******s that are stuck in their room of their parents house beause they got garbage grades in high school. What's the matter? Didn't take advantage of socialized schooling and now it's everyone else's fault?
     
  7. mertex

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    No, George Bush was the worst president. FDR is considered one of the greatest Presidents. I think you are just confused.
    Oh, we know plenty about responsibility and accountability. We not only take care of ourselves, we extend a hand to those that can't. While Repubtards whine and (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about the pittance that is taken from their check, but look the other way when the Corporations suck the life out of them. Not too bright, if you ask me.

    I guess you think that all the people that lost their jobs were hamburger flippers at McDonald's? Shows you haven't even done your research, yet you are spewing rhetoric as if you knew a lot.

    Not hardly, those are not the "uber" wealthy, the uber wealthy are the ones Reps/cons want to waive their taxes. How ignorant is that?

    Nobody can plan for not having a job for that long a period of time. Only a moron would save their entire paycheck, just in case they lose their jobs. We should have known that idiot George Bush was going to mess up so badly, maybe too many morons wouldn't have voted for him.
    I'm not the one claiming to care so much about the country, the flag, the Constitution, but not give a flip about other Americans, you are.

    Santorum would love to get rid of contraceptives. He thinks they hurt the country, what a moron. There were lots of Reps/cons that wanted him for president.

    Lame Republican/conservative rhetoric, started by Limbaugh, supported by Faux News and spread by all the nuts in the GOP.

    You keep saying such ignorant things. There are lots of people that vote Republican that are in that boat. You think that all the people on welfare are Liberal, check out the people in Appalachia, most of them are on welfare, they are white and they support the Republican party. They are too ignorant to realize that their own party would disown them just because they are poor. The same could happen to you, maybe it already has.

    Ha,ha, you should check out my profile. I have pictures of my house. Your insults are so lame, sounds like someone that thinks that living in a double-wide means you have arrived!

    Only a moron would conjure up pictures of a person they know nothing about. Your comments just sound like sour grapes and the reason most Republicans are so greedy with their money is because they have so little of it.

    Like usual, Repugnants want to think that Liberals support programs that help the middle-class and below because they are middle-class and below. Most liberals I know have money, but they are not greedy like most Repubtards, who think that the mere pittance that goes to social welfare is going to break them (maybe in your case it will) why you resist it so much, but look the other way at corporate welfare because they have been brainwashed into thinking that it will trickle down to them - someday! How's that working for you?
     
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    Stay on topic. Obama wants more folks on food stamps.
     
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    Doubt it. Jimmy Carter. Worst.

    LMAO! You mean you take care of those who can't with OTHER people's money. And the dependent class pretty much all vote democrat. Do your research.

    Taxing the rich isn't going to solve anything. It's just a bandaid.

    Like I said, responsibility and accountability.

    I'm not the one claiming to care so much about the country, the flag, the Constitution, but not give a flip about other Americans, you are.

    Santorum would love to get rid of contraceptives. He thinks they hurt the country, what a moron. There were lots of Reps/cons that wanted him for president.


    Lame Republican/conservative rhetoric, started by Limbaugh, supported by Faux News and spread by all the nuts in the GOP.


    You keep saying such ignorant things. There are lots of people that vote Republican that are in that boat. You think that all the people on welfare are Liberal, check out the people in Appalachia, most of them are on welfare, they are white and they support the Republican party. They are too ignorant to realize that their own party would disown them just because they are poor. The same could happen to you, maybe it already has.


    Ha,ha, you should check out my profile. I have pictures of my house. Your insults are so lame, sounds like someone that thinks that living in a double-wide means you have arrived!


    That's funny. Operation Wall St. Forgot they're all rich. My bad....lol


    Like usual, Repugnants want to think that Liberals support programs that help the middle-class and below because they are middle-class and below. Most liberals I know have money, but they are not greedy like most Repubtards, who think that the mere pittance that goes to social welfare is going to break them (maybe in your case it will) why you resist it so much, but look the other way at corporate welfare because they have been brainwashed into thinking that it will trickle down to them - someday! How's that working for you?[/QUOTE]
     
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    "George Bush was the worst president. FDR is considered one of the greatest Presidents. I think you are just confused."
    No, but you are well trained. I'm not fan of George Bush but he sure beat Presidents Johnson, Carter, Nixon, Clinton, and certainly our first socialist, FDR. President Truman was a mixed bag and President Nixon was a liberal.


    "Oh, we know plenty about responsibility and accountability. We not only take care of ourselves, we extend a hand to those that can't. While Repubtards whine and (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about the pittance that is taken from their check, but look the other way when the Corporations suck the life out of them. Not too bright, if you ask me."
    I'm sorry but taking from me to give to your friend is neither responsible nor generous. I wouldn't say you're not too bright but since you want to, I certainly won't argue.


    "I guess you think that all the people that lost their jobs were hamburger flippers at McDonald's? Shows you haven't even done your research, yet you are spewing rhetoric as if you knew a lot."


    "Not hardly, those are not the "uber" wealthy, the uber wealthy are the ones Reps/cons want to waive their taxes. How ignorant is that?"
    No, Republicans want to lower taxes for all Americans and want all Americans to pay their "fair" share. Democrats want to punish productive people even if it reduces tax revenues. If you'll recall, the Annointed One said he would raise capital gains taxes even if it reduced tax revuews. Punishing those he hates, productive people, is more important. Now, how stupid is that?


    "Nobody can plan for not having a job for that long a period of time. Only a moron would save their entire paycheck, just in case they lose their jobs. We should have known that idiot George Bush was going to mess up so badly, maybe too many morons wouldn't have voted for him.
    I'm not the one claiming to care so much about the country, the flag, the Constitution, but not give a flip about other Americans, you are."
    My father told me I should have a minimum of six months expensive in the bank. He had forgotten the great depression when, once before, liberals kept people out of work so they wouldn't waste a created crisis. Sadly, liberals don't care about Americans. They only care about his group or that group but Americans can't forget about the liberals because the liberals have forgotten about them.

    "Santorum would love to get rid of contraceptives. He thinks they hurt the country, what a moron. There were lots of Reps/cons that wanted him for president."
    I don't have the inside knowledge on Santorum that you do but absent any evidence I will say you're lying. And just think about the morons for a minute who wanted the trial lawyer John Edwards and the maniac Howard Dean and the gigolo John Kerry and the bizarre Al Gore and the fictionl character Barack Obama as president.


    "Lame Republican/conservative rhetoric, started by Limbaugh, supported by Faux News and spread by all the nuts in the GOP."
    Now that's funny.


    "You keep saying such ignorant things. There are lots of people that vote Republican that are in that boat. You think that all the people on welfare are Liberal, check out the people in Appalachia, most of them are on welfare, they are white and they support the Republican party. They are too ignorant to realize that their own party would disown them just because they are poor. The same could happen to you, maybe it already has."
    I've been waiting for you to say something rational and intelligent but I really can't wait as long as it seems would be necessary. I can forgive, and even support, the truly ignorant but liars get on my nerves.


    Ha,ha, you should check out my profile. I have pictures of my house. Your insults are so lame, sounds like someone that thinks that living in a double-wide means you have arrived!


    "Only a moron would conjure up pictures of a person they know nothing about. Your comments just sound like sour grapes and the reason most Republicans are so greedy with their money is because they have so little of it."
    Yet, another hilarious comment.


    "Like usual, Repugnants want to think that Liberals support programs that help the middle-class and below because they are middle-class and below. Most liberals I know have money, but they are not greedy like most Repubtards, who think that the mere pittance that goes to social welfare is going to break them (maybe in your case it will) why you resist it so much, but look the other way at corporate welfare because they have been brainwashed into thinking that it will trickle down to them - someday! How's that working for you?"
    I almost shot my coffee through my nose. Republcans want to help all Americans work and prosper. Liberals don't. They don't want to help anyone except liberal elitists and the only jobs they "create" are paying people to vote for liberals. I'm a conservative and I am happy to help people who deserve help. Crooks, deadbeats, junkies, drunks, well, you know, the liberal base can fend for themselves.
     
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    I'm pretty sure you put a band aid over a wound to let the scab form without interruption.
     
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    Prove your statement, otherwise, you are just blowing smoke, as usual.
     
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    Thank you!!!
     
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    That must be only in the Republican rewritten history books! LMAO! Not only is he worse, he is also more unpopular. Do the math.

    Just 43 percent of people questioned said they have a favorable opinion of Bush, while 54 percent said they view him unfavorably. Two-thirds of Americans, in contrast, said they have a positive view of Bush's predecessor, former President Bill Clinton.

    Of the other living former presidents, Jimmy Carter is viewed favorably by 54 percent of people questioned and George H.W. Bush gets a 59 percent rating.

    Bush's 43-percent favorable rating is roughly the same as it was in 2010. It is higher than it was immediately following his tenure in the White House in 2009, when his favorable rating bottomed out in the high 20s.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/george-bush-most-unpopular-president_n_1577651.html



    That's the way our country has operated for years. Are you new here? That's how Bush paid for those two worthless wars, with my tax money. I guess Repugnants think that it is okay to pay for things they approve of, but not what others approve of. Typical selfish, conservative thinking.


    Another ignorant statement. Of course it will help. Faux News keeps telling you that so that you will defend their tax cuts. You need to get other sources of information.

    Of course, Hatch and his Republican colleagues have fought successfully to protect the high-end Bush tax cuts. Against a “current policy” baseline that assumes that Republicans continue to block the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, Whitehouse’s bill has been estimated to raise $264 billion — more than five times as much. That is not a “meager” amount of revenue. In fact, it’s twice the amount needed to restore all of the cuts to federal nutrition assistance in the House Republican budget unveiled this week.

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/03/22/450000/conservatives-buffett-meager-revenue/?mobile=nc

    Making sure that every American has a decent life is part of being responsible. Just caring about yourself is selfish. Accounting for yourself and letting the rest of the country go down the river is not patriotic nor responsible. Don't know where you get your ideas.

    You probably don't have one, why you are so sour about mine. I don't know how life works for those that are selfish and think only of themselves, that's the only thing you've been right about, so far.

    Another lame statement. OWS is/was not a part of the Democratic party. Geez, you need to tune in to more current news. No wonder it has been determined that Faux News viewers are the least informed people in the country. You have just proved that.

    There are many people, organizations and media outlets within both the Democratic and Republican parties who are trying to label us as the Democrat’s version of the Tea Party. In this working groups opinion, not only is this incorrect, but in labeling us this way, you are, whether you realize it or not, undermining the very essence of this movement with your obsolete divide and conquer groupthink propaganda. Just as the mainstream media and both political parties aided and abetted the co-option of the Tea Party by the Republican Party, there is an attempt being made to do the same to us within the Democratic Party.

    We the People, We the 99%, are not the pawns of either wing of the two-party oligarchy.

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/10/welcome-to-the-ows-99-movement-“we-will-not-be-co-opted”.html
     
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    You might put a band-aid over a serious wound, but most people know to seek medical attention. Similarly, "taxing the rich" is a band-aid for deeper fiscal issues, such as irresponsible spending on welfare/warfare and an out of control Congress. Soaking those who create wealth for more of what they produce is more likely to just lead to more irresponsible spending and is unlikely to fix any problems.
     
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    Seems you are well trained yourself. Only the Republican's rewritten version of history would agree with your comment. Listing Nixon, the crook, as a Liberal takes the cake.[​IMG] Sorry, he was a Republican, just like G W Bush, who just happens to be the worst.


    Oh, but taking from me to give to your enemies (Muslims in Iraq/Afghanistan), is quite okay for Republican/conservatives? I would think that helping other Americans versus helping people that Republican/conservatives dis most of the time is the smarter of the two, but who knows how the Republican/conservative mind works.


    No, Republicans don't want to lower taxes for all Americans. They want to lower taxes for the uber wealthy. Republicans in Congress would have gladly let the taxes for the middle-class go up unless Obama was willing to not let the taxes for the wealthy expire. How quickly Reps/cons forget. And that, is pretty stupid, considering they have you believing they don't want to raise your taxes.


    More Republican/rhetoric. You've forgotten that it was a Republican president that put the country in depression. Thanks to FDR, the country was able to recover. Bush almost did the same thing. It's a good thing that people were smart enough to recognize that McCain would have continued Bush's policies, just like Romney will, and we will be back in the pit, and most of you will be willing to blame Obama.

    Of course you will say I'm lying, because Reps/cons won't accept facts.

    We know Rick Santorum casts a gimlet eye on contraception because he feels "it’s a license to do things in the sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be."
    Now we know that the GOP presidential candidate - leading his party's nominating race in some polls - is also against online gambling. From the Las Vegas Sun via Jim Geraghty at the National Review, here's Santo's proclamation on the evils of cyberspace wagering:

    http://reason.com/blog/2012/02/16/rick-santorum-against-contraception-agai


    You wouldn't comprehend something rational and intelligent. You only comprehend what Rush and Faux News spews out, and believe me, it's not rational nor intelligent. I hear that they even got yesterday's news wrong! LOL!
    They were claiming that the Affordable Health Care Act had been considered unconstitutional - how rational and intelligent is that? And if liars get on your nerves, I suppose that you are on your last nerve every time you utter something.

    The way Reps/cons whine and carry on about a mere pittance that comes out of their check that goes to social welfare, one would think they have little. If they don't, then they are just greedy.

    Sure you do. That is why Romney doesn't think we need to hire more teachers, firemen and policemen. He thinks we are doing fine, even though there is a shortage in almost every state. And that same old same old rhetoric that we only want to help the poor so that they can vote Democrat is getting pretty tired. I guess that is why Republicans pander to the wealthy, they want their votes. And, all the Republicans can do about the poor in America is call them names, drunks, junkies, deadbeats and the like, that way they can go to church on Sunday and praise Jesus, and think they are doing what he wants them to do, because these people don't deserve help. Jesus would pat them on the back for being so discerning.


    Oh, as an aside, I would seek help in posting. You should be able to put what people say in quotes - it's not that hard to do.
     
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    Ha,ha, is that how the Republican party is selling that idea now?[​IMG]
     
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    Pull your ugly, liberal head out of your ass:

    Government wants more people on food stamps:

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- More than one in seven Americans are on food stamps, but the federal government wants even more people to sign up for the safety net program.

    The U.S. Department of Agriculture has been running radio ads for the past four months encouraging those eligible to enroll. The campaign is targeted at the elderly, working poor, the unemployed and Hispanics.

    The department is spending between $2.5 million and $3 million on paid spots, and free public service announcements are also airing. The campaign can be heard in California, Texas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Ohio, and the New York metro area.

    "Research has shown that many people -- particularly underserved seniors, working poor, and legal immigrants -- do not understand the requirements of the program," said Kevin Concannon, a USDA under secretary.

    The radio ads, which run through June 30, come amid a bitter partisan fight over the safety net program. Republican lawmakers want to reduce funding for the benefit or turn it into a block grant program, which would also minimize the cost. Democrats, however, are not willing to make major cuts.

    The issue has become so heated that Newt Gingrich called President Obama the "food stamp president" to show how he's increased government spending.

    Food stamp enrollment certainly shot up during the Great Recession, though it had been rising for more than a decade.

    President Bush launched a recruitment campaign, which pushed average participation up by 63% during his eight years in office. The USDA began airing paid radio spots in 2004.

    President Obama's stimulus act made it easier for childless, jobless adults to qualify for the program and increased the monthly benefit by about 15% through 2013.

    Getting off government assistance

    Some 46.4 million people are in the food stamps program, also known as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP. That's just a touch below the record high hit in January.

    Still, more than one in four Americans eligible for food stamps do not participate, according to USDA records.

    And the rate is much lower among the the elderly and people just above the poverty line. Nearly two-thirds of folks in these categories aren't enrolled.

    In one ad, an elderly woman is surprised to learn that her friend is on food stamps. The friend explains that now that she's retired and on a fixed income, the program "helps me eat right when money's tight."

    "Millions of low-income seniors struggle to afford life's necessities like food and medicine," said Stacy Dean, vice president for food assistance policy at the left-leaning Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. "Enrolling in SNAP can help ease that struggle."

    Deficit hawks, however, don't want to see the government spend more money on food stamps at a time when lawmakers are trying to reduce the size of the federal government. The deficit for fiscal 2012 is projected to top $1 trillion for the fourth year in a row.

    In fiscal 2011, the federal government spent more than $75 billion on food stamps, up from $34.6 billion at the end of fiscal 2008, according to the USDA.

    "We ought to be looking for ways to save money in the program, not to encourage more people to use it," said Chris Edwards, an economist with the Cato Institute, a libertarian organization.

    Source
     
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    Says the one that needs to pull her empty head out of her ass. Because of your lack of comprehension, you are taking the title literally. Anyone with a brain would be able to understand that what the article is saying is that everyone that is eligible for food stamps should register.

    I know that Republicans would rather that these people that are eligible but not registered just go ahead and die? Which is no surprise, considering how Reps/cons are weeping and gnashing their teeth over the recent Obamacare ruling. As usual, you didn't understand the point the article was trying to get across.

    From your http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/25/news/economy/food-stamps-ads/index.htm

    The radio ads, which run through June 30, come amid a bitter partisan fight over the safety net program. Republican lawmakers want to reduce funding for the benefit or turn it into a block grant program, which would also minimize the cost. Democrats, however, are not willing to make major cuts.
     
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    Maybe some folks choose to NOT be on food stamps. Some people still have some pride left. Not all are so willing to suck off the government teet. The Obama Administration wants more government drones.

    Republicans want entitlement programs to serve a short-term purpose. Democrats want them to be a way of life.
     
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    That's fine, nobody is forcing them. The government just wants to make sure they are aware of what is available for them. There is nothing wrong with that.

    It's not a shameful thing to be on food stamps, unless you are able to work and don't. But, you sound like you believe that anybody can get food stamps, all they have to do is show up and register for them. Don't know where that idea comes from. People who apply for food stamps have to provide proof of need.

    Well, if they are going hungry because they are too proud to ask for help, then they are stupid not heroic.

    Typical lame Republican/conservative rhetoric parroted after Faux News and Limbaugh. Prove your statement unless it's just smoke.

    Wrong! Republicans don't want to help poor people at all, they want to cut all the programs that help the poor, they just want to help the wealthy, the ones that don't need help. That's why Ryan's plan cuts programs that bnenefit the poor but actually increases the tax cuts for the wealthy? Where's the logic in that?


    Clinton is a Democrat. Clinton changed the Welfare program and the new rule doesn't allow people to stay on welfare as long as it used to, so I don't know where you get your information. Sounds to me like you make it up or just parrot what you hear on Faux News.
     
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    You are correct, spaceCricket.

    People on welfare vote for politicians like Barack Obama who promise them more welfare.

    “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
    ― Margaret Thatcher

    In tax year 2009, the top 1 percent of filers — those “millionaires and billionaires” with adjusted gross annual incomes of more $343,927 whom the Occupy Wall Street rabble is demonizing — paid nearly 40 percent of federal income taxes.

    The top 10 percent with incomes over $112,124 (say, a New York City cop and a teacher filing jointly) paid more than 70 percent of income taxes.


    [​IMG]

    For some reason, when the government takes money and personal savings from successful working Americans by forcing them to pay higher and higher taxes, in the mind of a liberal this somehow is not "theft"!
     
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    Ha,ha, and what do you call it when the government (Republicans in Congress) take money and personal savings from successful working middle-class Americans forcing them to pay higher and higher taxes so that the Republicans can offer lower taxes to the uber wealthy? I guess in the contorted minds of Republican/conservatives, that would not be considered theft, but future trickle down fortunes![​IMG]
     
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    The poor must be willing to also help themselves. They cannot be on government assistance forever.

    Yeah, blame the rich folks for the poor folks' problems.

    Clinton is gone. Obama has been expanding entitlements again.
     
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    And why is it that people need the social assistance? Maybe because there are no jobs. So rather then attacking the underling problem, he does the complete arsine thing and gives people food stamps. Obama= “the Food Stamp President”
     

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