Lance Armstrong stripped of Titles and Banned for Life

That doesn't change the fact that what Armstrong was facing doesn't equate with all the people applying criminal justice to the situation. He wasn't facing jail time. What defendant can just say "you win" and move on from battle with the state? There is no opt out of trial when involved with the state except pleading to a lesser, which is still guilt. This in itself dictates the individual voluntarily is participating in these events, and such participation was in agreement with said rules of the body. Is there anyone here who truly believes a governing body would waste a decade pursuing allegations to which there was no basis for, out of jealousy? Please. What, did the head of the drug board really want Sheryl Crow and Lance stole her? Get real.

 

meanwhile all his old competition shoots up and pours one out for their homey.

 

Probably not. Armstrong is a personal friend of George W. Bush, but he's hinted that he disagrees with his politics.

Also, he led a campaign that attempted to raise taxes on cigarettes in California. That's not exactly a Republican policy.

 

Kinda fun when the "body" changes the rules during your participation in the sport. Kinda fun if the "body" didn't exist when you started participating in your sport too.
Also fun when they retest samples that have been kept for years in an unsecured facility.

It's all bull(*)(*)(*)(*) in my august opinion!

 

Maybe the world of cycling was so sick of doping they have no sympathy as to people being grandfathered in. I could see that being the only true argument to call bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on. Remember though, stripping someone of titles is as superfluous as baptizing the dead. Everyone will still see him as winning those events. All the stats will be on the books, and another board could put them all back as quickly as this one took them away. That is why I stress this isn't like a case vs the state. The state cannot give someone back their life or time spent.

 

I don't know if anyone has addressed this yet, but he'd only have a constitutional right to face his accusers if he was accused of criminal charges. I don't think this is a criminal probe.

 

There has been zero evidence presented that he doped, was on PED's, etc....

He has been retired for 2 years. This organization went back over 17 years which is beyond their own rules of 8 years. If these bureaucrats can't stick to their own rules, and Lance is subjected to their whim and rules in this process, then like him, I too would say F-OFF.... do what you want... I'm out. Your cannot win with bureaucrats that have a bug up their ass.

Now if they EVER present evidence, then I may change my mind, but to date, I have not seen it.

All they have done so far is destroy a man and an industry in the USA that was ready to take off... way to fail U.S. Gov't on tax payer dollars.

 

I tried to post this over an hour ago and of course didn't save a copy (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*). I HATE IT when the site freezes, i have a post waiting and it just DISAPPEARS off into the Ether.

Anyway. here's my theory. I am wondering if Ms. Sheryl Crow isn't behind this and the last time we went thru this drama of Mr. Armstrong's alleged sports drug use. You might ask, is she stupid enough to pull something like that and think she's so slick that no one would think she may be behind it? I think she does think she's that smart. Otherwise she wouldn't have seriously posted her idea of a 2 sheet solution to the to bathroom situation. I would like to see the time line on their initial break up and the last kerfuffle over his sports drugging. This time, he is one month away from being a father of his second child with wife number 2 who just happens to be younger than Ms. Crowe who is nine years Mr. Armstrong's senior. If you remember, the Crowe/Armstrong liaison was terminated allegedly by Mr. Armstrong in response to Ms Crowe's ultimatum for some kind of timeline for i assume marriage but only pregnancy was mentioned. The story was that her biological clock was ticking.

Would a woman scorned be this vengeful? Well, i'll leave that answer to you guys on the right and the left.

 

Of course I would. By the way, what achievements are they? Oh! Of course! He doesn't have any and who stripped him of them? Canadians? British? Chinese? Russians?

Oops! It has to be a bogus claim, doesn't it?

 

You are correct. This is an agency not bound to any set of fair rules, they make their own, and they violate them at their will... which they have done regarding Lance and no one disputes.

I will say that I am not an Armstrong "homer"... I don't think he is squeaky clean, but I don't buy all the allegations. They tested this dude hardcore for years. Stripping him complete shows a vindictive authoritative gov't bureaucrats did his worst.

My favorite cyclist of all time is Greg Lemond. That guy rocks.

 

Achievement and "award" are two different things. He still has the achievement.

Sore losers?

Well, the lack of evidence does seem to imply that.

 

He achieved nothing. He is nothing. He took drugs. He lost a court case over trying to hide it. He was a cheat.

Get over it.

 

If a guy could get his hands on something to increase penis size by a few inches he'd be all over it, and laugh when the guy who couldn't afford it complained he cheated. Such is life. Same for brain power pertaining to academics or business. Only in athletics is it such a bastardizing claim. I won't waste anytime praying he burns in hell for it.

 

You cannot even prove that he took drugs. You have someone's testimony who was about to have federal criminal drug trafficking charges using his proffer as a way out of trouble. Total BS.

The tests showed nothing. Ya got nothing.

He achieved several wins. Everyone knows it.

 

Every American knows it. The rest of the world knows better.

He achieved no wins. He came in first because he crapped all over his competitors.

You know that. It's the American way.

 

OHHHHHHH, so this is about hating on Americans again and not the truth or facts. Gotcha.

See...I thought it was. Oh well, haters gotta hate.

 

where's the proof. Sounds like somebody has been going after him for a long long time cause they've got a real axe to grind and they just can't let it go. I also think the 'hound' knows that if this stays out in the public eye for a long enough time, they don't have to prove anything. People will just accept it because it is old. Stinking, dirty technique in my opinion.

 

Score one for Zosiasmom.... you drew it out of him.

He has no proof, no facts, nothing, but he knows it to be true..... because.... Americans cheat... it's the, "American way".

Under the same logic we need to.... strip Michael Phelps, the woman's gymnastic team, the men's basketball team, May & Walsh, etc.... all of their medals. In fact, Germany and Japan should be declared the victors of WWII as well.

Nice win Zosiasmom... you took that one easy.

 

He never once tested positive for doping. Obama leftist loser punishment for success and total disregard for due process. Leftists suck.

 

The guy has been pissing in cups, giving blood, etc... for decades and no one has ever scientifically shown us anything. Instead we had some other people that were going to get nailed because they were caught red handed, rolling Lance under the bus for reduced punishments. Sounds legit to me!

I am no Armstrong fanboi, but you have to have some sort of real proof to have me side. It's like Barack Obama's birth certificate. No one ever proved to me that he was born elsewhere, so I say the guy is 100% American and legit.

If they EVER come up with some proof on lance that is not as he said/she said... please share it and I will reconsider my position.

 

This is incorrect.

I have provided in this thread the link to the news story that states, unequivocally, that the USADA has the positive tests for banned substances for Lance Armstrong.

Now just because the cheater and the liar says he has never tested positive does not make it true, especially considering he has tested positive.

 

Yes, the USADA has proof that he either took EPO or participated in blood doping.

 

Actually, he has tested positive for banned substances, back in 1999. This was demonstrated, along with his positive test for doping in 2009.

Once again, because Lance Armstrong says he has never tested positive does not make it true. He has.

 

This is a stock American answer. Why don't you patent it?

He cheated. He didn't win a race. He wasn't there because he wasn't a genuine competitor.

Same applies to Ben Johnson and every other cheat from every other country.

Get over it!

 

Juicy meat for Nancy Grace then.