Muslim vs. Christian

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This isn't going away anytime soon. The radical muslims believe that their duty lies in destroying the Christian faith and all of its principles. They also believe their duty includes killing Christians, usually in a gruesome manner, bombs, beheadings, dismemberment,etc...... It is their contention that we must be enslaved,converted, or killed.
There is no middle ground for these people. Now they have attacked American soil,(again?) and yet we handle them with kit gloves.
They don't want to co-exist and they want it all. Christians are in the fight of their beliefs and lives and most of them are burying their heads in the sand, afraid to offend.
Screw that, bring it on to our shores and see what you get!!! .....and please don't whine when you find out it isn't so easy. This ain't the UK or Sweden..we still have our guns, so go ahead and come on over.
Radical muslims are nothing but a bunch of cowards.

 

Off course radical Muslims/insurgents/terrorists are going to be aggressive toward the US/West it's only a natural reaction to the events that have happened over the past 60 years. Starting with 1947 creation of Isreal followed by The Tripartite Aggression on Port Said, followed by the first Iraq war, the Invasion of Afghanistan, the second Iraq war/Invasion and the soon to be Iran war not to mention the degrading and Humiliating conditions under which the Palestinians have lived for the past 60 years. As Newton said for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction, radical Muslims don't hate the christian faith , they hate the west specifically for the reasons mentioned above.

 

Who makes this claim?

 

It’s a new phase in an old conflict. Look back into history – Crusaders vs Arabs, Byzantine Empire vs Ottomans, Muhammad Ali vs George Foreman etc. Same sh^t different day ))
Seriously, a religion has often been used as weapon by dirty politicians and other tricksters.

 

...they do and have demonstrated such.
Note that I stated radical muslims.........We don't need or want sharia law here. We have enough crooks on the take with the legal system that we already have.

 

More often than not, it seems like Israel is the scapegoat for a lot of internal struggles in Islamic countries.

For example, if the Islamic World really cared that much for the Palestinians, why haven't they opened up their borders to them and paid for their accommodations? Plenty of oil-rich nations have more than enough resources to allow for the relocation of Palestinians.

Also, the living conditions would be considerably better in these other areas.

 

Actually Bin Laden explains why they hate us.

 

The Arab countries can barely take care of their own populations , it's unrealistic to expect them to provide for the entire Palestinian population. With that said , there are 3 million refugees living in the Lebanon,Syria and Jordan and only 2 million in Palestine so in fact the Arab world has taken on most of the Palestinian populace.

 

Saudi Arabia basically pays people to not work. Surely, they could afford taking in more. I would assume Qatar and the UAE probably could as well.

I'm not saying that I agree with the situation overall, but I find it somewhat hard to believe that people really care as much as they say they do about the Palestinians.

 

Saying that Bin Laden represents us is like saying that Hitler represents the Germans .

 

Muslim vs. Christian
=
Lie vs. Truth

 

Think of it like this , if 60 years ago the Jews had decided to go to lets say Virginia and annex it as a separate state for themselves with no form of cultural link to the rest of the country. This Jewish nation then had the American population there live under terrible conditions within less then 20 percent of the land mass. Wouldn't the rest of america hold a grudge and be hostile towards that foreign state right in the middle of the country.

 

Sure, and the 6 Day War didn't help things any.

 

This is true. Ironic that OUR politicians are using this religious based bs to further their election campaigns.

 

Muslim vs. Christian
=
Evil vs. Good

 

from me to you

 

Muslim vs. Christian
= both evolved from the same base religion thus believe in many of the same things including the same God


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Actually, the US is more often used, and "Israel" follows suit because much of the US's Middle East policy is meddling in others affairs for the benefit of "Israel".

Because Arab politicians only care about the Palestinians when they need votes. Otherwise, Western money and acceptance comes first.

The Arabs are a people lacking real leadership right now. Somebody like Salah ad-Din would benefit the entire world right now.

The living conditions, as already meantioned, are great to begin with in the countries with Palestinian refugees.

But all the more reason for the Palestinians to finally get the right of return to their land. Or do they need to wait a thousand years for this right?

 

It's really not the same God. Christians believe that God is a Triune or Trinity God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). We (Muslims) consider it a sin to believe that God is represented in a Trinity. In fact, We instruct Christians to stop saying the word three and Trinity and to worship the One True God, Allah.

 

Also to clarify, the Jesus that Christians worship is different from the Jesus that We (Muslims) believe in. We believe that Jesus is a Prophet of God not God incarnate. In fact, we believe that Christians are commiting blashemy by believing that Jesus is God.

 

I think your rationale starts way later in history and therefore lacks a certain balance. There has been armed conflict and uneasy peace between Muslims and Christians, Muslims and Hindi, Muslim sect and Muslim sect, Muslim and Jews, since Mohammed began his military campaigns. I should think that the total defeat of the caliphate (ottoman empire) would be enough to get Islamists irritated, not to mention the arbitrary creation of artificial states with no consideration to traditional ethnic territories.

Of course the muslims are blameless. Sooner or later Israel has to be identified as a principle cause of muslim antagonism for the west. And like the jews, muslims blame the other side completely - the ummah shrank and that is against Allah's will.

The tripartite Aggression as you call it, was in reaction to Nassar unilaterally nationalizing the Suez. (just one of a gazillion mistakes he made).
Of couse the first Iraqi war was to protect the Kuwaitis (muslims) from the invading Iraqis (muslims) and the plunder of their country (I guess kuwaitis aren;t popular in the muslim world).

The war in afghanistan was a direct response to Islamist terrorism and Taliban "hospitality". Despite all the misery it caused, it couldn't be any worse than what the taliban had in store for the afghan people.

The second Iraqi war was to get rid of a dictator who oppressed, tortured and murdered the majority shia population, while his sons committed horrific crimes with impunity. I guess most muslims are willing to overlook that.

And the palestinians and their arab brethern have NO part in their humiliation oppression and deprivation for the past 60 years. Yes all during that time all the palestinians and arabs wanted was peace. All those little wars being Israels compete fault I guess.

Look, I know that the wests shytte stinks but unless you are blind, you must see that muslim shytte stinks just as much.

 

Don't mind him, he's on his Crusade right now, lead by the Great Glenn Beck.

That should speak for itself.

I don't understand why some people struggle to comprehend Muslims, Jews and Christians believe in the same God? And the Ten Commandments, Torah, Gospel, Psalms, and finally the Quran were all relevations sent by this same God.

Moses, Jesus, David, and Muhammad, as well as many others - peace and blessings upon all of them - were all messengers of God.

This is why I believe Islam to be the truth, because it recognizes everything before it from the time of Adam to Mohammed (peace be upon them).

Sorry, got a bit carried away there.

The moral of the story is, whether you like it or not, the God of Abraham (peace be upon him) is the same God as Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad (peace be upon them).

 

Originally Posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
Muslim vs. Christian
=
Evil vs. Good

 

My gods bigger than your god. My gods bigger than yours.
My gods bigger cause he eats kennel ration, My god's bigger than yours.

(I don't suppose a non northamerican will get this cultural reference, but i think its a propos.}

 

But the God which Jesus (peace be upon him) told the people to worship is Allah SWT.

The Father is Allah SWT.