There's a serious flaw in the report quoted, the representatives of the local population chosen for the interviews on which it was based were selected by an anti drone action group posing as a HR organisation - Foundation for Fundamental Rights, possibly a front for the Taliban.
The Taliban are far too stupid to manage anything that underhand. The drones are clearly terrorist attacks and no amount of silly excuses will change that fact. Some Muslims, stupidly, refuse to condemn Islamic extremist terrorist groups. Your lot moan about Muslims not weeding out terrorists but you openly support exactly the same thing when the US murders people. Mad as a spoon.
I'm not sure that is true. Back around 2000 I became interested in the Taliban and did some research on the intarrernet. Much to my surprise they had a very professional website! A few years ago, some Taliban units in the field took along videographers when they carried out an ambush or terrorist attack and uploaded the video within 2 hours. For a bunch of Islamo-fascists with no moral conscience who want to live in the thirteenth century they have shown a surprising level of modern media savvy and spin in the past.
I'm sure some Taliban are bright but, when taken as a body, are blithering idiots. The problem is extremes of ideology never works in the real word so they always end up having to be stupid to conform to their narrow ideas of right and wrong. It's not just the Taliban, more every extremist group of whatever type. I have to be honest (And probably unpopular), I have no problem with Taliban killing American or British soldiers. These soldiers are an invading force so it's your government's fault for sending them there. Not that I imply any support for the Taliban, I have no love for them at all. The whole extremist version of Islam sickens me as their idiocy only serves to create hate, death and misery. That goes equally for US CIA drone strikes. The drones invade a foreign country and kill "suspects". That makes a massive difference. These are suspects, not court convicted or even seriously investigated, just suspects. I wonder if you'd stand police in the US blowing away "Suspects" just because a group of men had gathered at a street corner and may well be considering mugging an old lady. The drone attacks are clearly terrorism and murder.
Thats nice to say but a democracy follows its citizens standarts and most Americans prefer to wage the war in the enemy court than on US land, but I agree they need to step back from the rightous stance they so in love with, they have intersts like any other county in the world and thaey dont always follow the code of chivelry - just like any other country in the world.
Islamist terrorist are not innocent people, they and their supporters are not innocent people. School girls are innocent people.
The USA are sticking to higher moral standards that is why they only use drones to attack or bomb the terrorist.
What most do not realise is that Drones, six at a time, buzz over villages for 24/7 . People living in remote Tribal areas live in terror, they have completly changed their ways of life are sufferng from all sorts of truamatic illnesses because they never know when these constant buzzing things will strike or who or where or what, No one goes to help thoses struck for six hours because Drones srike rescuers sometimes once and sometimes twice . The report from Stanford and NYU http://livingunderdrones.org/report/
Not even the CIA said that bin Ladan had anything to do with 9/11 in the end. The problem with most of us is that we never actually read any official reports.
Do you have proof of that ? There are already protests going on in Pakistan against the Taliban. Pakistanis don't want them ..........flying Drones 24/7 for years on end over the heads of Tribal peoples who never know if they will see their children tomorrow when putting them to bed every night becaus all the strikes are in the middle of the night, is not helping anyone. Those who loose familys in strikes hate you even more. They didn't even know there was an America before you started this terrorising of them. There is no proof of the Drones killing high level militants either. 2% are low level militants ...as in of no danger to you .the rest are innocents. It is one of the most evil and illegal acts of War ever, there is no justification at all, but it feeds Americas latest target for their constant hatered and stills 'her' fear. The Goodies hav zapped the baddies, John Wayne lives ..... .
Higher that the terrorists but they shouldnt try to "save" ppl around the world serving as body guards, strike hard the enemy and move out, no need to stick around I say.
Suffer the buzzing noise or join the fight against Taliban, Its better to deploy drones than risk US lives.
Okay let me get this straight. We can't put troops into Waziristan and the Paki Government is obviously to corrupt to do it themselves. So what other means of interdiction of enemy supply lines and leadership are we supposed to use if not drones? Nothing? Just let the enemy plan, plot and act in peace and security? People sure have strange ideas about how to a fight a war.
Scalping Indians, Reds under the beds/Commies, Japanese, vietnamese, germans, Muslims, Koreans,Islamist terrorists ....... It is a brainwashing tool of the US Government on its people. They use Fear and your odd Jealousies/inferiority complexes. US Drones target schools they did in Afghanistan and they do in Pakistan. http://livingunderdrones.org/report/ Blindly you will defend 'Your Country' no matter what it does because you have this odd belief that it is a force for good. Just as the Chinese did/do and just as every other brainwashed peoples living in Dictatorships do. Your Governments, all of them , are only interested in US Corperates and Armaments barons and supressing/oppressing the rest of the World. These Drones in Pakistan are being used to break an amazing peoples who have never been beaten because they are daunting fighters and their deep deep loyalities are to each other. They cannot be bought by $ ..... the greatest sin of them all, incorruptable, horror of horrors ............... The Taliban is an illegal terrorist organization in Pakistan now too, there are protests in Pakistan aganst the shooting of that little school girl. Last tie they commited such an autrocity the Pakistan Military ousted them from that area ....they now sneek in and terrorise .just like you do. What is the difference between you and the Taliban in actuality ? Weapons is all. They were your 'boys' once after all. You always always always turn on you friends .always ..... at some point. 'I am not Anti-American, America is Anti-Me' is true for the Whole of the rest of the World. You hate us ...oddly most of us do not hate you. jealousy is a terrible affliction, the basis for most evils ..........it is America. Wake up America ...come and help us fight the bastards who rule us all so cruely .... People of the World against the Despots.
LOL You fight the Tribes hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha They are unbeatable and now how ever much you terrorise them with the constant 24/7 of Drones which let off killing fire willy nilly every now and then, killing indiscriminatly only for the effect of terrorism you will not beat them. They had never even heard of America before you started this 'reign' of terror. You are terrorising those who are unbeatable .......Anhialation of indiginous peoples is your trade mark isn't it ? It is the very basis of America ....... This time you have gone too far though. I think this will be your undoing .......... http://livingunderdrones.org/report/
Oh I see. So we should just give up and let the Taliban rule even though it has been decided by the entire international community that they are illegitimate and no longer the rightful rulers of Afghanistan? Those "unbeatable tribes" can either adopt western democratic liberalism and secular government along with respect for women and religious minorities or we'll shove it down their god (*)(*)(*)(*) throats.
Fighting together against a common enemy should be the natives goal not America's, then can choose just to bomb their enemies if it suits their purposes, 9/11 was not a myth, the attempts you dont hear about in the news against American targets around the world are reason enough to fight them, ofc every now and then they do succeed like in Lybia. "You can be succesful and have enemies or unsuccesful and have friends" (F. Cattano) - The US is a big target and they are at war and probebly always will be a target to some anachists, today mostly Muslim anachrists, the US can and should fight the war on its own conditions - not the enemy's.
Fighting together against a common enemy should be the natives goal not America's, then can choose just to bomb their enemies if it suits their purposes, 9/11 was not a myth, the attempts you dont hear about in the news against American targets around the world are reason enough to fight them, ofc every now and then they do succeed like in Lybia. "You can be succesful and have enemies or unsuccesful and have friends" (D. Cattano) - The US is a big target and they are at war and probebly always will be a target to some anachists, today mostly Muslim anachrists, the US can and should fight the war on its own conditions - not the enemy's.
Every man of a certian age is written down by your Government as Taliban. This is a lie and has been proved to be a lie over and over again. So as far as we can with facts, gather is that the actual Taliban were becoming very very unpopular everywhere, and everywhere they are illegal. But through your own illegal terrorisms more young people are joining such forces, Not neccessarlity the Taliban but definatly jahadis......... You are sold stereotypes. I know many Pakistanis and I know many people who have visited, even lived and worked in Pakistan. You would be surprised at the Luxury of the Land. If fact that is were we first found true luxury. It was America who encouaged and backed the Military Coup in Pakistan keeping it from flourishing, you always encourage Evil .......... No. You are the Occupiers of Afghanistan, bloody hell you can't even be honest about that one. How dare you, the mosy backward and unciverlised country of the Western World think you have anything that the Tribes want. You have no Loyalty, you can't fight, and they don't want you. So as with your own indiginous peoples you will distroy the Anciant way and put souless plastic in its' place .......... All that was and is good in America is being obliterated by these completly amoral acts ...............