as i just said,Bush sr had a huge major role in it.The evidence is overwhelming he was involved.anybody who hasnt seen THE JFK/BUSH CONNECTION here needs to see it. that was his reward,was the presidency,same with Johnson and Nixon for participating in it as well.same with Ford for participating in the coverup.same as arlen spector.He was rewarded senator for the rest of his life for his participating in the coverup with Ford as well.
only an idiot would believe either the throut or back wound shot came from the back.You not only got witnesses who have given testimony saying they saw a man from the grassy knowl behind the fence with a rifle as well as surpressed photos that show it but all the dallas doctors also said that they were entrance wounds to the front. matter of fact the first reports that went out in the papers was that it was an entrance wound in the front,and when those reports went out,they came up with a lie in time magazine that he turned his head around to look back but then when all the films showed that was a lie,they then had to make up the perposterous lie that he was shot from the back.it was one lie after another in their sick operation to coverup a conspiracy.Plus there were mutlipe unnacountable bullets that were found indicating at LEAST one other shooter.whats really funny about the fools who still say oswald was the lone assassin is that even the HSCA INVESTIGATION in the 70's concluded the warren commission was wrong and that it was a propabable conspiracy but were unable to locate the other shooter.
you obviously havent read the posts throughout this thread then.The evidence is overwhelming the CIA was behind it all cause he wanted to pull out of vietnam.during the HSCA investigation in the 70's,as it was winding down,two CIA men came forward and said-we did it,where do you want to go with this investigation? and of course the committe did not pursue that lead because it was no different than the warren commission,anything that pointed towards government involvment,they ignored and thats because they had a NEW PATSY for the american public.the mob. Because many american were no longer buying into the lie that oswald was the lone assassin and knew there was a conspiracy.they invented a new patsy,the mob to try and satisfy them.that it was them and then alone that did it and for a long time I thought it was a strong possibliyt but then i came to right conclusion they alone could not have done it by themselves cause they could not have set up oswald like he did sending him russia and control the media like they did. since the HSCA was showing that it was not a real investigation either,one of the men that served on it senator Gaston Fonzi resigned in disgust because of not pursuing that CIA lead.he wrote all about it in his book THE LAST INVESTIGATION. also one of the watergate burglers connected to watergate E Howard Hunt,a CIA operative who ran covert wars for the CIA under Nixon when he was vice president,for years he denied he was in dallas that day,but on his deathbed confession,his son tape recorded him and he confessed he was in dallas that day as part of a CIA operation to kill him Like i said,you obviously havent read any of the posts in this thread cause if you had,you would see there is plenty of proof besides this post that proves it. the only posts that you shouldnt read that are stupid and idiotic where you wont learn anything are these posts- #7,9,70,22,25,27,,24,23,31,40,41,116,48,71,74,,75 and pretty much all the ones on page two.they are all either asinine and full of lies or they are off topic.all the other posts on this thread nailed it and are very good posts you need to read.
In fact,for the people that have been brainwashed by our corporate controlled media and our corrupt school system into thinking that JFK got us into vietnam instead of inheriting it from eisenhower and that he wasnt going to completely pull out by 1965.here is all the evidence in the world in these three posts I posted on this thread here in this link also. http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...ont-get-please-explain-21.html#post1062185582 someone else posted a lino if it before as well that got ignored by them obviously.also like i said,you need to read the two books JFK AND VIETNAM By John Newman and that other book by David Kasier that talked about the origins of vietnam where he documents through thousands of documents obtained through the eisenhower,kennedy and johnson administration,IKE got us into it and Jfk resisted the policys of the military to esculate it,then when Lbj got in,he reversed kennedys policys and followed Ikes to esculate it.Its all documented that Stone knew exactly what he was talking about in that movie about kennedy was for sure going to withdraw us from vietnam but Johnson reversed his policy.Thats a closed discussion.there is no dabate on that.
Poll needs a "who gives a rat's arse" option. I couldn't care less who killed him. He deserved to be shot in the head. He was a war criminal and a murderer.
Nonsense. Kennedy was a hawk. And he was the one who sent the air-force to bomb South Vietnam. It's true Eisenhower was meddling in Indochina too but that doesn't change the fact that Kennedy sent the troops and wasn't prepared to pull out until the US had won. Read the internal documents.
A bored rich kid looking for a thrill, just like Osama bin Laden. Abolish birth privileges and we will never again be infested with these types. Without Daddy's money, they will all wind up nobodies.
nonsense is YOUR post and b.s. Like many americans you clearly have been brainwashed and are in denial,if you werent,you would read those bookswhich AGAIN is based on actual documents, and you didnt even bother reading this either past my first sentence.get a clue and get with the program.you have been brainwashed by our corrupt school system obviously.you ignored EVERYTHING i posted.funny that your obsessed over my posts instead of all the other posts by other posters I have recommended as well to that other poster to look through that backs up everything i have said. he never sent in COMBAT troops.LBJ did,get with the freaking program and stop listening to what the corrupt corporate media tells you.
continuing this,Oh and before slandering the truth and trying to rewrite history,that propaganda may work on someone else but not me.I have researched this to no end.you obviously have only gone by what the corrupt school system and corporate media tell you.first off,I think you mean North vietnam,and kennedy NEVER did that,it was Johnson,again read those two books and actually read more than one sentence instead of trying to rewrite history.You didnt read more than one sentence I said.scholars have suspected for years that kennedy wanted to pull out of vietnam,they did not have proof until the 90's through a freedom of information act,that it was true.pay attention,JFK never sent in combat troops.ONLY ADVISORS!!! JOHNSON sent in the air force.YOU need to look in the mirror when telling someone they need to read the internal documents, its a well known fact now that JFK resisted the militarys desire to bomb vietnam.he had no interest in the war in vietnam.again if you had bothered reading the posts of my link and reading those books or done any research,you would know this to be true.That he resisted the war policys of eisenhower and the military drew up in his final year in office to have a strong aggresive stance against communism.He wanted no part of a war there,He believed in a peaceful resolution.vietnam was the last thing on his agenda and took no action there.He had far more pressing needs like the congo,the berlin wall,and establishing relations with the russians than vietnam.that was on the backburner and one he did not engage in. Johnson got in office and vietnam was a priority and he reversed kennedys policy and escualted the one eisenhower drew up.so again,stop tryiung to rewrite history and read what others post before slandering the truth and agian,try and acdept it that you have been brainwashed by the school system and our corrupt media,the same ones that told you the gross lie that oswald killed kennedy.
propaganda and b.s from you again,now I can see why you are devoted to posting slanderous lies about him.other than maybe carter,he is the ONLY president we have had in the last 50 years who DIDNT deserve to be shot and thats WHY he was shot because he was the last REAL president we had because he was not a puppet for the establishment like everyone of them have been since then. He was trying to return us to the constitution of the united states where the people had control over the government instead of all these corporations that do now and the government served the people instead of us serving them like we do.To not care,is just asinine and idiotic.His assassination changed the course of the world forever in the worst way possible. Johnson and Nixon were the war criminals and deserved to be shot in the head.It wasnt the vietcong and the NVA that murdered those 58,000 american soldiers,it was Johnson and Nixon. its obvious what your agenda is but your ramblings hold no water.in the sept address speech where walter kronkite interviewed kenedy on vietnam,you can in the tape,82 casualtys since the war,thats a FAR cry from the 58,000 americans that Johnson and Nixon murdered. pathetic post.
Firstly, is it at all possible, merely for the sake of mutual understanding, that you to write in grammatical sentences? Secondly, I'm not an American and thus I'm not brainwashed by your corporate media nor your "corrupt school system." The simple fact is Kennedy sent planes to bomb South Vietnam long before they even pretended to use the North as a pretext. He approved crop destruction and napalm. This is on record. To say it was Eisenhower's war and not Kennedy's is mendacious.
No I don't mean North Vietnam. I mean South Vietnam. I can always tell when I'm talking to someone who either does or does not know what they're talking about vis a vis Vietnam. If they don't know that the US attacked South Vietnam first, and that the majority of aggression was against the South, they don't know what they're talking about. It's pretty clear you have some bizarre agenda to defend, ay er ah Kennedy.................lol.
Americans have no self-identitiy. They love getting their faces pushed into rice paddies by spoiled heirheads like JFK. It is the only identity they have and you can't question the holiness of their heirhead idols.
The assassination of JFK by an insignificant crackpot has become the gold standard for conspiracy nuts everywhere. Some folks just pleasure themselves by contriving elaborate fantasies of byzantine machinations, but the predilection seems to derive from the disproportionality - a great man snuffed by a creepy nonentity. Surely, proportionality is demanded. For a wimp with a gun, alas, all things are possible. .
again your lies will work on others but they wont work on me,give it up. - - - Updated - - - thats you that clearly doesnt know what they are talking about.again you you wont read past the first sentence of anything so you only see what yopu want to see and are clearly here just to spread lies.again say what you want but your lies wont work on me. I wont take your bait anymore and feed you like you want and as for the lurkers on here,they can just come on here and see for themselves that you are not committed to the truth and that you dont read past one sentence of anything and have to result to insults when you are cornered. you havent tried debunking one single thing myself and others have posted here.your clearly obsessed with me cause you know I speak the truth and your handlers are angry I do.give it up.again have fun talking to yourself. its obvious what your agenda here is.
you like those two clearly are the one that has fantasys and like them,have been brainwashed by the corporate media and our corrupt school system. the only kind of aergument you lone nut theorists have that oswald did it is that he was PART of a conspiracy to kill kennedy. Even the house select committe on assainations in the 70's in their investigation admitted the warren commission was wrong, that his assassination was a result of a conspiracy that there was another shooters involved and yet people like you ignorantly keep saying oswald was the lone assassin.
I love the logic of the lone nut theorists.the warren commission was so biased of an investigation its a sick joke It doesnt even touch on many key facts such as several of the witnesses testimony were altered by the warren commission,itself an illegal act,or the many unnaccountable bullets found that day like an entrance shot to the windshield that forensic officers said was an indeed an entrance shot,or the bullet photographed in the doorframe,or the one on the curb that was replaced two days later and plastered over with,or the one on the street marked by an officer,and the one in the street sign seen in the zapruder film that witnesses saw which was taken down and replaced a day later, or the one where a police officer is seen picking it up one off the grass and putting it in his pocket and walking away with it illegally removing evidence and according to two women, they altered the testimony of two theirs of having gone down the same stairway the warren commission said oswald went down during the same timeframe.altering their timeframe they gave. again they altered many witnesses testimony.a crime itself. you all are also ignorant of the testimony of Rose Cherimae, whom you see in the beginning of the film JFK she was a woman found on the side of a highway in Louisiana by a highway patrol officer who was taken to a hospital and told doctors a couple days before the assassination that there was a plot to kill kennedy.that there were MEN traveling to dallas to kill kennedy.they did not take her serious at first because she was found to be on drugs, but after the assassination,they then took her seriously and called the dallas police,and how conveinent for the government that she ended up dying mysteriously after that. many witnesses who came forward and gave testimony that did not fit the governments version of events ended up dying mysteriously.in fact,some witnesses kept quiet for many years because they were afraid of winding up as mysterious deaths if they camer forward and talked about a gunman they saw firing a rifle behind the picket fence.Now they are old and close to death so they dont care anymore and are no longer afraid. you lone nut theorists have no answers for any of these facts. the only argument you have of oswald being involved is that he was part of a conspiracy but that again, falls apart in the testimony of those two ladies that went down the stairs.but what alone exonerates oswald is that one of witnesses there was filming the sixt floor school book depository building and the film and pics show that seconds before,during,and after the shooting,there is nobody in the alleged snipers nest.That alone exonerates oswald as the killer.
at least we dont make up lies like you two and blatantly ignore facts and evidence.you two wouldnt last ONE MINUTE in a debating hall.you both would be laughed out within one minute the way you two change the subject and dont even try and counter the facts presented when cornered. you then go and make up lies that he is my idol when unlike you two,i post the truth and dont ignore facts and change the subject when cornered. neither of you two have even attempted to address 3/4ths of the facts and evidence myself and others have provided.since you two wont even look at the evidence,Im done with you two's ramblings here.Like him,you could not counter anything I presented and like him,changed the subject not looking at the evidence.
Lies from you as always.Johnson and Dick Nixon were war criminals and murderers of the vietnam war,they murdered 58,000 americans which I proved and you blatantly ignored..JFk was not either a war criminal or murderer.You only see what you want to see or you wound understand this to be true. AGAIN, with the exception of Carter,Jfk is the only president since 1960 to the current president we have now,who shouldnt have been shot in the head.Johnson and Nixon for sure should have been though for murdering 58,000 americans.
Right, it was obviously the work of that Castro-CIA-FBI-LBJ-Mafia consortium (that had also written the complete works of William Shakespeare in their spare time, by the way.) Whilst Vincent Bugliosi effectively shot down all the fanciful bs in Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy, you might benefit from reading Jim Moore's concise Conspiracy of One: The Definitive Book on the Kennedy Assassination. As an admitted former conspiracy nut, he had gained a comprehensive knowledge of and handily discredited the plethora of imaginative Kennedy assassination fantasies that had grown into a cottage industry and had once duped him and others. A pathetic wimp with a rifle can kill the most prominent of statesmen. Some just cannot accept the disproportionality in that, and so must substitute byzantine intrigue and clandestine machinations by the sinister and powerful.
For those who enjoy the endless Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy Twaddle (and you don't have to actually swallow any of this bunkum to appreciate the fecundity of the human imagination) here are a few doozies: The Driver Did It! Yes, that’s right, as this theory would have it, the man driving the limousine (carrying President Kennedy, the First Lady, the Governor of Texas, the Governor’s wife, and a Secret Service agent assigned to protect the President) casually turned around and shot JFK at point blank range in the head. All this in full view not only of the people in the car, but also the large crowd that had gathered to cheer and wave at the motorcade. And nobody actually saw this happen at the time. Well, nobody who was willing to say so, anyway. Umbrella Man! Here’s a theory that’s bound to appeal to fans of James Bond or Get Smart: JFK was taken out not only by bullets, but also by a poison dart shot from an assassin’s umbrella. Yep, an umbrella. Friendly Fire! This is a hypothesis that could also be known as the ‘Oops, I Shot The President Theory’. In this version of the events, suggested by author Bonar Menninger and based on the conclusions of ballistics expert and sharpshooter Howard Donahue, Kennedy was shot in the head by Secret Service agent George Hickey, who was riding in the car to the rear of the President’s. Not as part of a grand conspiracy, mind you: it was just an accident. DiMaggio Did It! The gist is that the late Joe DiMaggio, baseball legend and former husband of Marilyn Monroe, assassinated President Kennedy because – bonus conspiracy theory – the Kennedys were responsible for the death of his ex-wife. Whether DiMaggio actually shot JFK himself or whether he used his influence to get someone else to do it is up for debate. And then some. Proponents of this theory present as ‘substantiation’ Joe D’s duck hunting hobby and ongoing love for Monroe. Jackie Did It! If anyone had the perfect opportunity to take out President Kennedy on that fateful day in 1963, it was the woman who was sat right next to him: his wife, Jacqueline Kennedy. The theory proposes that Jackie, in a move worthy of any assassin or illusionist ever to have existed, concealed the gun in a ‘lamb chop’ puppet she had been given along with a bunch of flowers until it was time, with extreme stealth, to fire the shot. Three Tramps Did It! Soon after the assassination, the police arrested three tramps in the railway yard behind Dealey Plaza, not far from where President Kennedy was shot. Various photographers present at the time took photos of the police leading these men to the police station, thereby sparking one of the most popular JFK conspiracy theories ever. At the center of this hypothesis are the alleged identities of the three vagrants, whom conspiracy theorists have claimed are any of a handful of CIA operatives or criminals – including the father of actor Woody Harrelson, who was a convicted hit man. Storm Drain Shooter! Drains are incredible things. They channel away sewage, prevent streets from flooding with storm water and, according to this theory, provide assassins with both an angle from which to shoot the President of the United States, and a means of escape. Tony Gambino, of New York mob the Gambinos, contended in a 2007 interview that that’s exactly what happened in the JFK assassination, which he also claimed involved members of the government and the Vatican. Black Dog Man! If you look carefully at a polaroid photo taken by Mary Moorman a split second after the fatal head shot, you may be able to discern a humanoid shape behind a fence. This figure has been dubbed ‘Black Dog Man’ because at first glance it looks a little like a canine of said color. Badge Man! If you look very carefully at the Moorman Polaroid again (a two-fer!), behind a wall and to the right of stairs (and Black Dog Man), you may be able to make out bushes and shadows. But that’s because you’re not looking hard enough, according to the adherents of this theory. What they see when they train their eyes on the same spot is a uniformed man with a badge who has just fired a gun – the smoke or muzzle flash of which is visible. Call me naïve, but I have a theory that there were several folks in Dallas that day that didn't do it. .
