Who is your favorite US president?

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Who is your favorite US president?

  1. Dwight D. Eisenhower

    8 vote(s)
    10.4%
  2. Andrew Jackson

    3 vote(s)
    3.9%
  3. Thomas Jefferson

    23 vote(s)
    29.9%
  4. Abraham Lincoln

    17 vote(s)
    22.1%
  5. James K. Polk

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  6. Franklin D. Roosevelt

    12 vote(s)
    15.6%
  7. Theodore Roosevelt

    7 vote(s)
    9.1%
  8. Harry S. Truman

    6 vote(s)
    7.8%
  9. George Washington

    17 vote(s)
    22.1%
  10. Woodrow Wilson

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Jiyuu-Freedom

    Jiyuu-Freedom Keep the peace Past Donor

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    I see the poll favors Jefferson. I chose Lincoln only because I know more about his history.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You flubbed it. You were supposed to vote for best, not most tyrannical.
     
  3. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Damn typos! Maybe I just wish Van Buren was President during FDR's reign ;)
     
  4. happy fun dude

    happy fun dude New Member

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    Those choices are all (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
  5. Sab

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    Heres a question -no googling!

    Which was the first President to be Born a US citizen?
     
  6. tomfoo13ry

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    John Quincy Adams?

    ETA: Meh, just googled it, nevermind. Anyone else wanna have a go?
     
  7. Sab

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    JQA was alive when his father defended the British soldiers accused of the Boston Maasacre.
     
  8. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Points for being close and not googling before I gave my answer?
     
  9. Think for myself

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    Reagan.


    Not favorite because of his greatness, but a favorite because of what he represented.

    a man who said one thing and truly did another. A man whose obsession with the Soviets caused a weapons race of monumental proportions. A man to whom the law was utterly meaningless if it meant restricting him from corralling communism.

    Now couple that with the era, with the rise of what I like to call the Christian Taliban and the cult worship of a man who did nothing close to what he said he believed and I find him, as a study, to be fascinating.
     
  10. Sab

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    I expect people not to google. Reasonably close. Half points
     
  11. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :banana: :winner:
     
  12. Unifier

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    FDR did more to hurt black people than any other president in the last century. He laid the groundwork for the welfare state that has completely destroyed the black family unit.
     
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    Why do you even waste your time on here ?
     
  14. thediplomat2.0

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    Not really. Structurally speaking, the Egyptian government is composed of a bicameral legislature, an Executive branch, and a judiciary. In that regard, it is like many republican forms of government found throughout the world. In practice, Egypt can be best described as an illiberal democracy, where political participation is limited, civil liberties are hindered, and power is highly consolidated among a select groups of people. It is my hope, therefore, that the people of Egypt continue to push their leaders, primarily in a non-violent manner, for reforms to promote greater political participation, provides more rights and freedoms, and decentralize power.
     
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    George W. Bush


    He almost singlehandedly destroyed both the Reagan and Gingrich "Revolutions".
     
  16. Phoebe Bump

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    Jimmy Carter was an excellent president but way ahead of his time. He just didn't run around the country spouting the happy-happy-joy-joy kinda crap that Reagan and his followers preferred.
     
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    The guy who almost rachetted up the cold war with enough rhetoric to create the 85 near nuclear war!! WHOO HOO! lol And he's not rated in the top 10. Don't get me wrong , he was a good POTUS, I liked Bush Sr too, he seemed like he would put you over his knee if you "needed it" .. lol
     
  18. 9/11 was an inside job

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    as posted by Frodly below.
    I already debunked right wing myth making about Reagan in this thread, and don't feel like doing so again. Reference post # 47.

    this here below was posted by myself also.

    as did Stonehouse in reference post# 13,Gorn Captain in # 15 and I myself in post# 30 did as well.
     
  19. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Frodly is the only poster that you mentioned with any credibility.

    Oh, and before you start on your cliche talking points, I don't like Reagan either.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    well if thats what you believe and you dont like Reagan,you should start trying to convince the Reagan apologists here to read Frodly's post.of course with people like Libhater,he only sees what he WANTS to see and wont read it though so even that wont do any good for those kind of people that are in denial.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    add post #95 to the list of Frodlly's post on #30 that debunks the myth of Reagan and proves that the american sheople have been programmed from the lies of Rush Limbaugh into believing the lie of Reagan.

    http://consortiumnews.com/2011/09/20/the-dark-legacy-of-reaganomics/


    It all comes down to the policies of Carter and his bringing in Paul Volker to fix the economy broken before he came in. A large chunk of his unpopularity stemmed from his making the hard choices he made. In fact, the Volker/Carter plan was so good that Volker was kept on by Reagan. So the short answer is YES Reagan took credit for things he didn't do but then again what do you expect from a man who played the rat during the McCarthy debacle.

    Ronnie Raygun was the first POTUS in history to add over a trillion dollars to the national debt. He almost tripled the national debt from less than one trillion to over $2.5 trillion in his eight years. Shrub daddy almost doubled it again in only four years, from $2.5 to $4.5 trillion. Clinton added less than either of those two, adding only one trillion, and also balancing the budget, which Raygun promised to do but never came close to doing. Then Shrub Jr. destroyed the balanced budget in less than six months WITH A REPUBLICAN CONGRESS, and doubled the national debt again from $5.5 trillion to almost $12 trillion. When will America stop drinking that "THE GOP IS THE PARTY THAT'S FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE" koolaid?


    social situations within the soviet union brought it down, as did perestroika and glasnost, which were attempts to save the system but actually hastened its demise, it was nothing to do with america. oh and the kgb wiped the floor with the cia during the cold war, just so you know.

    When Carter was president, he ordered an extensive study of the energy crisis by a large group of experts.
    Their consensus was that conservation, fuel efficiency and development of alternative sources were essential to stave off becoming hostage to foreign energy sources.
    Carter implemented a range of policies and initiatives to address the situation, but when Reagan got in, his big oil backers were unhappy with Carter's policies, so Reagan ordered a new study to discredit Carter's study.
    Unfortunately, Reagan's study reported the same conclusions, so he threw it out and commissioned another study by some shills who came to the conclusions that he wanted.
    Then Reagan used the study to justify scuppering all of Carter's energy initiatives and policies. He told the rubes it was morning in America and not to worry about using tons of energy, and told the oil companies to write their own energy policies and regulations.
    A lot of the rot in today's society and economy can be traced to Reagan and his polarizing rhetoric, emboldening of terrorists and voodoo economics.


    Sorry you are, but Raygun didn't end the cold war, he just wasted a trillion dollars on bombs that still sit rotting today, and a STAR WARS program that never worked. He had the Taliban in the White house, calling them freedom fighters, and gave them a half billion dollars worth of weapons that they ended up using on us. He sold chemical weapons to Iraq, and intelligence to Iran, in the Iran/Iraq war. And used those profits to illegally give more weapons to the Contras in Nicaragua. And he sold cocaine with Noriega with the help of Ollie North, to get more money for more weapons for the Contras.


    First thing to realise is that an economy does not turn around on a dime.. it normally takes years for the impact of policy change to be felt. Another thing that needs to be mentioned is that often the President has little to do with what the economy happens to be doing.

    Some just luck into a good economy.

    One thing a President can do is artificially stimulate the economy and this is what Reagan did through deficit spending. Reagan spent more, by all realistic measures, than any other President since.

    Obama has increased the debt but he has not increased spending. This is key. Obama has actually decreased the deficit of 1.4 trillion that he inherited. This is the first step that has to be taken.

    The big problem for Obama was that after the 2008 crash revenue was reduced from 2.7 Trillion down to 2.1 Trillion. Not Reagan or anyone after experienced this kind of revenue destruction.

    Spending for 2009 (the last Bush fiscal year) was supposed to be 3.1 Trillion (forcasted deficit of 400 Billion which is still way to big)

    400 Billion (expected deficit) 600 Billion (revenue shortfall) = 1 Trillion The other 400 Billion was mostly from TARP = 1.4 Trillion dollar deficit for 2009.

    This chart shows the deficit pattern (increasing bad .. decreasing good)

    http://m.pinterest.com/pin/92675704803457371/

    The link below gives you some of the numbers.

    http://www.skymachines.com/US-Nation...ental-Term.htm

    You can see that Reagan increased the debt from roughly 1 Trillion to 2.7 Trillion (keep in mind these are 1980's dollars)

    This was insane. Obama inherited a 12 Trillion dollar debt ... If he was to undertake a similar increase the debt would have to rist to over 30 Trillion.

    Of course one can stimulate the economy by spending that kind of money.

    Reagan did not have a housing market collapse, stock market collapse, unstable world financial markets, frozen credit markets, massive debt, and a massive deficit to deal with. Economic conditions under Reagan were much much better.

    When you spend the kind of money Reagan did under the economic conditions that Reagan had .. the job market gets stimulated
     
  22. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No skin off of my nose if people like Reagan. It isn't like anyone's opinion is going to change because of comments on the internet.
     
  23. pjohns

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    Really?

    It is my understanding that many scholars now rate Ronald Reagan as a "great" president.

    A 2005 Washington College poll ranked Reagan #2 (just behind Abraham Lincoln).

    A Gallup poll showed Reagan at #1, five percentage points above Lincoln.

    And a 2010 Gallup poll showed Reagan with an approval rating of 74 percent, to just 24 percent disapproval.

    Here is the link: http://www.ask.com/wiki/Historical_...United_States#Liberal_and_conservative_raters
     
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    continued-

    and yeah Reagan was inaugurated the day the hostages were released because of the october surprise where Bush,Reagan and our CIA held hostages in captive and did not releases them until his inauguaration to make him look like a hero.They held them in captive in exchange for arms shipped to them,that was the deal they cut.That is treason that those two monsters should have gone to jail for. oh and due to Reagans policys,we had a trillion dollar deficit.the worst deficit worse than any president before him COMBINED!!!!


    The authorization to copitulate in the release of hostages could have only come from Jimmy Carter. Why do people think it is Reagan's doing? The release was on the day Reagan took office.

    Does anyone know in fact if Reagan approved the complicated transaction described. As described... It makes no €£¥#%^* sense.


    lastly,for the brainwashed american sheople who ignorantly say our corrupt and both off Reagan was better than JFK,they need to read the book TEARING DOWN THE MYTH

    of course the reagan apologists wont read it since they are in denial and dont want to face facts like all the ones I have listed here.

    Reagan was also the first politician who signed abortion into play and allowed americans to come into california to have abortions.Reagan murdered 500,000 babies. That was all brought up during Roe vs Wade.
     
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    your probably right but the american sheople are ignorant. they have been brainwahsed by the propaganda of mouth pieces like Rush Limbaugh.If you study all the facts I have listed in posts #96 and #99 on this thread,at that time, he was the most corrupt president ever.
     

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