Part IV Post your tough Questions on Christianity

Who would want to follow that (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) from the Old Testament who calls himself God. He's a ego maniacal tyrant worse than Fidel Castro.

 

Keep it kind. You'll save your credibility.

 

Quotge Posted by Akhlut:

Again, not unnatural. As for appalling and disgusting: that's in the eye of the beholder. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

As for sinful: shellfish, pork, and shaving are all sinful too. Yet, none of those are viewed in the same particular light as homosexuality.
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No, you are wrong. It is not sinful to eat shellfish and pork or to shave one's face, but it is unnatural and sinful to engage in homosexual activities.

The Apostle Paul tells us, "Those who feel free to eat anything must not look down on those who don't. And those who don't eat certain foods must not condemn those who do, for God has accepted them." Romans 14:3 NLT

The Christian belief has always been that while God gave man the Mosaic Law, no one except Jesus was able to fulfill it, we humans being flawed by sin. By fulfilling it to the point of dying on the cross, Jesus fulfilled the Law for all mankind. Because of Jesus, a New Covenant has been established.

Thus, Christians are not required, for instance, to participate in Passover or to refrain from eating certain foods. Nor do we condemn homosexuals to death since we are under the New Covenant. The only requirements are those laid upon Christians by Christ Himself and the Apostles.

One of those requirements is to refrain from fornication, which brings us back to the issue of homosexuality. Gay marriage and other relations are all just fornication and thus to be avoided by Christians. Teaching that homosexuality is OK is in effect annulling a commandment, which is clearly a sin as stated by Jesus Himself.

"Haven't you read the Scriptures? Jesus replied. They record that from the beginning God made them male and female. And He said, This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united in one. Since they no longer two but one, let no one split apart what God has joined together." Matthew 19:4-6 NLT

But that’s exactly what the gay marriage movement seeks to do, separate the bond that naturally exists between men and women.
It’s true we don’t put homosexuals to death because we follow Jesus’ example with the adulterous woman. He found no guilt in her, but let her go with the admonition to sin no more. Likewise, Christians must allow homosexuals the opportunity to turn to Christ, but we cannot forget that the condition for forgiveness is to sin no more.

 

so what's the dealybob on beards, then?

surely, in this day and age, men under 65 aren't still labouring under the yoke of 1950's mores.

 

no answer? Forgot or there isnt a good answer?

 

Yes, but none of them were being protected and guided by the one true god, the god of mercy, compassion and love.

 

Are you serious, you don't know that each creature evolve in their own kind?
Ok, what is a kind? Many meaning depending on how it is use.
1. To be nice or generous
2. The natural order or course of things
3. Of the same kind; alike
4. Plenty of; ample (example); We have all kinds of time to finish the job.

You chose.

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Just like some people who seriously think the Bible is in error are in error to themselves.

 

They all have their own pagan gods that they claim protect them and made them gods such was the Pharaoh who thinks and claim he is a god until the True God was reveal the God of mercy, compassion and love.

 

Just like Alfalfa isn't a name either it is: leguminous plant grown for hay or forage.
This would mean, that the Hebrews were really very very smart that 1500 years ago before the invention of any modern stuff they were able to mold, create, script a very well Oscar award winning religion that defeated all other religions with a story line that has continuity for 1500 years! For that I truly bow to the greatness of the Hebrew people

 

The people who bleat about the evils of homosexuality are nothing but busybodies who want to control other people's lives. Their talking point is that homosexuality "separates the bond that naturally exists between men and women."

Now suppose a busybody actually believes that. Now suppose that he has some kids who are going to get married. The future spouses are a Tuareg from Mali, a poor black African from the Congo, or a white homosexual from America. Which one would the guy rather see his kid marry?

In the Bible Rebekah had a hissy fit because her son Esau refused to marry some of his relatives.

The bottom line is that if a person married who he/she wanted to then he/she should grant others that same right and privilege. In other words, they need to butt out of other people's business and mind their own.

 

Well how about that..... another one who promotes the new age philosophy which states "if it feels good then do it." Now a question for you regarding that philosophy: What if you saw your daughter being raped and you stopped the guy and he responded that he was only doing it because it made him feel good. What would be your response? Are you going to be mindful of your own advice and just "butt out of other people's business and mind" your own?

 

In our society we regard rape as a criminal act. Therefore if I saw someone being raped I would take appropriate action to end the criminal activity. That's different from interfering in someone's choice of a marriage partner. I've married the people I wanted to marry so I give others that same respect.

 

You make a good point. Why do the religious right want to control what folks do in the privacy of their own bedrooms ?

I just do not get this level of control phreakishness.

 

Do not worry about those that think that the Bible is in error ... even if it does contradict itself often.

You need to focus on more important things like answering tough questions ..

speaking of which ! Have you managed to come up with legitimate answers to any tough questions so far ?

 

None of those have anything to do with biology...

 

They don't. He's keeping you in that circular logic way of thinking and bringing you back to where you started.

 

There is a point here in favor of the Biblical religions, in that pagans worshipped Nature, which is the enemy of mankind. The Bible also properly gives Man dominion over Nature and says that Man is created in God's image. The Stone Age religions, including the New Age "secular humanism," have man as little better than a destructive animal, insignificant when compared to the "wonders of Nature."

 

The Roman god Jove was originally pronounced "Yo way," two different ways of saying "go" and meaning "Run for your lives!" This was borrowed as Yahweh by the Hebrews, who before the Romans emigrated to Italy, lived just below the Indo-European tribes. The Greek form was Io, a wandering goddess. This god was really an overpowering human invader, like Genghis Khan. The Romans escaped without much harm, so Jove was "jovial." The pre-Hebrews were conquered and had to submit to the vicious tyranny of an egomaniacal tyrant. Prometheus, who brought the light of fire to mankind, was slandered by the high priests, becoming Lucifer.

 

In spite of all clear evidence to the contrary.

 

That would be the merciful, compassionate, loving God that hardened the Pharaoh's heart and allowed God to murder thousands of innocent children that had done nothing to violate Him?

 

I agree.
Just like the Oscars honor filmmakers for their brilliance in the invention of fantastic stories, we honor the Hebrews for the same skill. In spite of the myriad of logical errors it contains, it grabs the emotions of the reader and compells him to submit to what every story wills into the consumer of fiction: the willing suspension of disbelief.

 

There is wisdom to that position, actually.
As man runs headlong into the destruction of his own environment, nature patiently waits for him to destroy himself, when it will regenerate and once again have a balanced and ordered dominion over the planet.

 

Huh? The 1500 year history of the Hebrew people is one mostly of them getting their ass kicked.

Tevya - "God, I know we're the chosen people, but once in a while could you chose someone else?"

 

He has, his answer is always "read the bible dumbass!".

 

Maybe the bible is not in error. But if it so difficult that an expert like you or others who have studied the bible in extremely great detail, can't figure out when moses was born, who was pharoah, and when the exodus happened then there seems to be something amiss with how it is written.