Feds: Constitutionalists Are Actually "Terrorists"

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/04/feds-identify-300000-americans-as.html

From article:

On Friday, the Los Angeles Times posted an article attempting to define a domestic terrorist movement consisting of as many as 300,000 Americans. Some are even labeled as non-violent "paper terrorists".

Is there a more Orwellian term than "non-violent terrorist"? If you can think of one please share it in the comments below.

They refer to this so-called terror group as "sovereigns, zealots who refuse to recognize government authority in virtually any form."

When attempting to further define and identify individuals in this movement, some very broad and dangerous stereotypes appear.

"Sovereigns believe U.S. currency has no value but recognize precious metals as valid currency," wrote the LA Times, much like the US Constitution does.

"A central tenet of the sovereigns movement is that its adherents believe they owe no income taxes," also much like the Constitution forbids.

 

So I take it you are a "sovereign citizen."

 

The terrorists are the ones in Washington DC murdering children overseas and imprisoning millions here at home.

 

I hold those who would risk liberty by standing against the leviathan of central planning in FAR greater esteem
than the cowardly filth who....out of envy and covetous greed for the trappings of another's hard work and success...
would cede Big Fed increasing authority to steal for them.

 

Of course they think us Constitutionalists are terrorist! It's their goal to abolish the Constitution, and hand our country over to the UN and NATO.

But in reality, "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."~Thomas Jefferson~

The government is really the biggest terrorists on the planet, and us Constitutionalist understand that government force does not solve anything, and the true role of government should be to protect life, Liberty and, property and THAT'S IT!

 

Just as I take it, you are a statist.

 

The government just needs to say what it thinks....white men are the enemy

 

No wonder Big Sis needs billions of rounds of ammo and armored vehicles. The nation is awash in non-violent terrorists who believe in the scribbles of dead white males and value gold and silver over the word of America's Lord and Savior-Barack Hussein Obama.

 

Thomas Jefferson also said "A little rebellion now and then is a good thing." So, conservatives, time for talk is over. Time to lock and load is now upon you to save your "sovereign citizens" and seize the opportunity now whne America is at its weakest so that your life, liberty, and property are protected.

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Just as I take it that you are supporting those who took Louisiana state trooper lives for no apparent reason.

 

I don't believe in violence other than for self-defense. Got anymore retarded arguments you need to get off your chest?

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I don't believe in violence other than for self-defense. Got anymore retarded arguments you need to get off your chest?

 

why a link to a blog talking about a LA Times article?

Why much telling us what we should believe rather than actual quotes?
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/05/nation/la-na-sovereigns-20130406

Police teach tactics for handling 'sovereign citizens'
The FBI classifies such people, who refuse to recognize government authority in virtually any form, as part of a domestic terrorist movement.
April 05, 2013|By David Zucchino, Los Angeles Times
Two police officers and two people who considered themselves "sovereign… (Alan Spearman, The Commercial&#8230GREENSBORO, N.C. — With his shaggy hair, bushy mustache and obstinate ways, Jeffrey Allen Wright was well known to sheriff's deputies in Santa Rosa County, Fla.

Wright, 55, drove around with a phony license plate. When stopped, he refused to produce a driver's license. Once he threatened to sue a deputy who pulled him over.

After he was fined for traffic offenses in September, Wright paid with counterfeit money orders. When deputies served warrants for felony counterfeiting March 8, Wright barricaded himself in his garage and declared that he would not be "a servant of the king."

He broke out windows with a handgun, then pointed the weapon at officers, police said. Three deputies fired, killing Wright.

When Det. Rob Finch of the Greensboro police department heard about the incident, two words came to mind: sovereign citizen.

Finch teaches police and public officials around the country how to deal with self-described "sovereign citizens" like Wright. Finch and his partner, Det. Kory Flowers, have trained nearly 15,000 police and 5,000 public officials to combat sovereigns, zealots who refuse to recognize government authority in virtually any form.

Violent confrontations are rare, but the FBI says at least six police officers have been killed by sovereigns since 2000. A man tied to the movement shot and killed a California Highway Patrol officer who stopped him in Contra Costa County last year. A responding officer shot and killed the assailant.

The agency calls sovereigns — who number between 100,000 and 300,000 — a "domestic terrorist movement."


Read the actual article- this is about nutjob 'sovereign citizens' who claim to be exempt from U.S. law.

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Oh and one more thing to note- the LA Times doesn't refer to 'Constitutionalists" but to Sovereign Citizens- the title of the thread was deliberately misleading.

 

"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary

Maybe they have "evolved"?

 

Sovereign citizens do not act in self defense

http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/articles/2012/09/sovereign-citizens-a-clear-and-present-danger.aspx

 

Ok, so what the (*)(*)(*)(*) does that have to with me? The fact that people belive the goverment is bound by the constitution, are being labeled "potential domestic terrorist" is beyond moronic. And only a moronic statist, would defend such actions.

 

Every political party says theiy are acting in the best interests of the Constitution or following what the Constitution says. This includes Dems, Republicans, Libertarians, and other potlica l parties.

Sovereign citizens are not a political party nor are acting upon political dissent. Thsy are the wost kind of anarchists you can find and you are, by de facto, defending them.

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Every political party says theiy are acting in the best interests of the Constitution or following what the Constitution says. This includes Dems, Republicans, Libertarians, and other potlica l parties.

Sovereign citizens are not a political party nor are acting upon political dissent. Thsy are the wost kind of anarchists you can find and you are, by de facto, defending them.

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Every political party says theiy are acting in the best interests of the Constitution or following what the Constitution says. This includes Dems, Republicans, Libertarians, and other potlica l parties.

Sovereign citizens are not a political party nor are acting upon political dissent. Thsy are the wost kind of anarchists you can find and you are, by de facto, defending them.

 

And by de facto, you are defending the notion that our goverment should have the right to lable some as suspicious, for simpily implying that they are bound by the constitution. See how that works?

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And by de facto, you are defending the notion that our goverment should have the right to lable some as suspicious, for simpily implying that they are bound by the constitution. See how that works?

 

A few of the radical leftists who supported, signed and acted on that proclamation in 1969 have been lauded elite professorships to mold America's youth....some so respected and revered by modern progressive leftists, they launch political careers in their living rooms.

yet, have a few folks vehemently stand in defiance of the results of their "revolution"....an authoritarian, coercive, confiscatory/redistributive Goliath of unconstitutional central planning....and they're singled out as evil...they're vilified as dangerous constitutional constructionists and violent, scary terrorists

by ideological fellow travelers of folks who advocated and attempted violent overthrow of government 40 some odd years ago....

no, seriously....I kid you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing not

 

Well, no.

They are labeling some people as TERRORISTS, because members of their group openly advocate and COMMIT deadly crimes upon others under the auspices of the group without ANY condemantion from the fellow members.

"Constitutionalists" could have served themselves in this thread a bit by renouncing their fellow "Constitutionalists" who have committed terrorism in its name and under its support..

 

Swing and a miss. Your pitiful attempt of lumping people who abide by laws, and expect our government to abide by the laws they are bound too, with people who break laws is pretty sad.

Try harder next time.

 

This isn't an arbitrary position that the government will take. Sovereign citizens will draw on you no matter what political party you belong to or which political party is in power. This includes the Mitt Romeny's of the world

Political dissent is fine as long as it is done at the ballot box or educating on certain issues. But when you actively want to use force against government, that is where you stop using political discourse and start actively becoming terrorists. Timothy McVeign was a domestic terrorist for his own actions the same way as soverign citizens or the Michigan militia or the Republic of Texas (group) or the ELF or the ALF.

Otherwise, you are stating that the government was wrong to label CPUSA as a domestic terrorist for some thrirty years. .

 

Domestic terrorist... what a joke.

 

Paper Terrorism is what I don't get how is it Terrorism to abuse loopholes in the laws to muck up the system? What if people refuse to use ID documents as citizens and opt out of that are they terrorists? What if they use other non-violent means and just refuse to go along?

Sovereign Citizens are not the only form of anti-government radical and not all are violent, Amish and Hassidim are in their way radicals and opposed to the government to a large degree.

 

It applies to the claims made in the original article- the people being labeled potential domestic terrorists are 'sovereign citizens' who don't feel bound by the law. If you are one of them, then I can see why articles like the LA Times would be terribly revealing.

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Seriously- does anyone bother to read anything more than the headline on the OP?

Read the article in the LA Times.

 

Seriously- does anyone bother to read anything more than the headline on the OP?

Read the article in the LA Times.

 

If I'll have a choice between elected official and toothless, bible trumping, half educated, gun hoarding hillbilly, guess which side I'm going to pick?