Not a bit of it. They reacted like paint. Idiot boy Harrit heated his chips in an oxygen-rich environment. It caught fire. Trouble is, it produced no more light than one would expect from the combustion of a polymer resin, and showed flames that moved across the surface of the chip, which remained dark. I know of no thermite compound that includes kaolin. Harrit's chip was about 25% kaolin. Paint is about 25% kaolin. Paint chips.
lol they did not behave like thermite, look at the reaction; Jones and Harrit don't include the zero line in their report. I added that. It makes the comparison more revealing. Thermite remains heavily endothermic until around 400C, which is about the time his "chips" are reaching their peak. The thermite line then peaks 140C later while his "chips" have fizzled. What is this supposed to show for your claim? That things burn if you heat it up to 700C??? We don't need a fraudulent paper to tell us that. But the most damning part is the peak. Harrit et al even admit in the paper that the peak (baring in mind this is the lowest of the 4 samples) exceeds the theoretical limit for thermite. But it gets better. Harrit's own results show that the largest quantity of aluminum found is tiny compared to other elements like carbon and oxygen. By the amount of Al needed to be mixed with Fe for thermite (mix of 1:3), the maximum thermite content of the chips can be no more than 3% thermite. The theoretical limit of energy density should be no more than 93J/g, Harrit measured 7,000J/g, harrit was off by a factor of 150 too much! But the funny thing is, Harrit's chips (a)-(d) do not even contain elemental aluminium, as proven by James Millette. Where did Harrit get his "elemental aluminium" from? From a Tnemic primer paint chips, which he failed to label, and tried to pass it of as a "contaminated" chip "identical" to Chips (a)-(d). LOL. Except his "contaminated" chip's EDX test matches perfectly to Tnemic paint. Fun facts for koko about the paper he has never read; In the Bentham paper there are more than one type of red material. 4 chips labelled a), b) c) and d) are all the same material. Chips labelled (a)-(d) do NOT contain any bulk aluminium. In the Bentham paper there is a 5th chip. This chip is unlabelled. This chip was subjected to soaking with MEK. It is refered to as the MEK chip at JREF. The MEK chip is a different material from the chips a-d) as evidenced by the EDX data in the paper. The MEK chip EDX matches that of Tnemec Red 99. EDX data on Tnemec red 99 is from Jones's own talks. The MEK chip (Tnemec red 99) contains the constituents of Tnemec Red 99. These include aluminates. The separation of bulk aluminium is the separation of these aluminates. In the Bentham paper the separation of aluminates is a one off. It's never been repeated. The separation of bulk aluminium in one sample CANNOT be extrapolated to any other red chip because they are different materials. Maybe you should actually read the paper koko? The icing on the cake is, burning a material does not give the slightest idea what that material is. FTIR, TEM, XEDS, etc (test which James Millette performed) does. These tests look right into what a material is made up from. Millette's FTIR shows the gray layer is steel, the red layer is paint. Period. That is what they are. Do you know Harrit et al also did FTIR and TEM too? Even mentioned it in their paper, to be released at a later date. That was 3 years ago. They have never released them. Wonder why... This is the fraud you follow koko. Like it or not, you are a fool for believing their lies.
There were too types of primer used in the building. The columns were coated with Tnemec Red Primer and the floor trusses with La Clede red primer. Different compositions entirely. Most of that which wound up in the dust would have come from the trusses since they were ALL subjected to pounding, twisting and grinding in the collapse. Quite simple, really. Most of what Harrit and Jones were playing with was La Clede, with one chip of Tnemec.
So. science owned by The Powers that Be is Science and all other science is pseudo science? I see, it all depends on ownership.
One of the samples did in fact have a small spike of zinc chromate, but it was passed off as contamination. The rest contained no trace. Oystein over on JREF did some digging and talked to a few people in the know, and discovered that although most primers do have a very small amount of zinc chromate as an ingredient, after application the zinc chromate tends to 'move' towards the surface of the steel and form the protective layer, until after some time the zinc may almost completely disappear. I can't remember exactly, may want to consult his blog.
Another masterpiece of handwaving by koko. Your claim was that the chips behaved like thermite. I proved to you, from Harrit's own source, that they did not. Your response is an off to the side one liner. Just give up, even you know you are wrong.
so what, more meaningless crap. you have no way to prove other paints or primers were not used. more groundless speculation. - - - Updated - - - apparently you do not understand the significance of compound variants.
The specific primers used were listed in the original contract and were reprinted in the NIST report. There were two types, although one, the La Clede primer, appears to have been reformulated because strontium chromate was determined to be an environmental hazard.
One of my past jobs was sandblasting and painting....I mixed up and sprayed many a gallon of zinc chromate....
Guess that's a no. Do you believe everything you're told koko? When you first heard that Jones et al had found "thermite" chips in the dust, did you think; "wow! I better read that study so I know all about it", or did you think "wow! I read this on the internet, therefore it must be true and warrants no independent verification by myself!"
Why did you just assume that it was thermite that the two old charlatans were playing with? Do you know of a thermite compound with kaolin in it?
Harrit's crap has kaolin in it. There is not supposed to be kaolin in thermite. There is kaolin in most paints. There was no free aluminum in Harrit's chips. It was all found in the kaolin crystals. This is not thermite.
Yes. The kaolin was totally dispersed within the polymer resin. Harrit and Jones stated that all of the aluminum was found in the kaolin crystals. Kaolin is Al2Si205(OH)4
and yet he's the first to support a theory on pure faith. You haven't read the Bentham paper, you know nothing of its contents, and yet you support it as gospel. Hypocrite?
