Which white/Caucasian ethnicity is the best?

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Which white/Caucasian ethnicity is the best?

  1. Germanic

    34.8%
  2. Anglo-Saxon

    21.7%
  3. Gaelic (Irish, Scottish, etc)

    21.7%
  4. Spanish

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. French

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Italian

    4.3%
  7. Russian/Slavic

    8.7%
  8. Nordic

    4.3%
  9. Jewish

    4.3%
  10. Non-Jewish Semitic (Arab, etc)

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    0.0%
  1. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because the 'Dark Ages' kept no records and tried to make a history out of self-advertising poetry. Archaeology and genetics are taking the old stuff apart. Roman Britannia, for instance, is now estimated to have had about five million inhabitants - a figure not reached again until Elizabethan times - which would make it difficult for a few Germans to displace them - and the genetics show that a majority everywhere in Britain is genetically related to the Basques, suggesting their ancestors came north behind the retreating ice. The wonder is that the Germans got control - but the Romans denied people arms, after all, and there is a theory that the plague in Justinian's time may have been as bad as the Black Death and hit the British - who still had market towns - much harder because they had grain stores to attract the infected rats.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Heh. Ethnicity is nothing more than a mild form of inbreeding, anyway. :D
     
  3. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    So, genetically, most English are of Celtic origin?
     
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    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    The original Celts were dark haired and pale skinned.

    It goes back to the saying of the "Black Irish."
     
  5. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes - the language was replaced, though there's an interesting (Finnish) study that points to about thirty special features of Anglo-Saxon as compared with any other Germanic dialect - and every one reflects British usage, suggesting a mass change of language by an unchanged population. The whole business is as yet extremely complicated, but we can be certain that the traditional 'ethnic cleansing' model is guff.

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    Except as described by Caesar, who saw them as tall and fair. Racialism is bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
  6. lizarddust

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    The Angles and Saxons were northern Germanic tribes. I was born in northern Germany.
     
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    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    I'm talking about Celts from before Caesar and before the Vikings.
     
  8. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, in a sense. Almost all of their ancestors once spoke a Celtic language, but they themselves seem to date back genetically to before that.
     
  9. Albert Di Salvo

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    There is no super race.
     
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    As far as I understand it, haplotypes can trace Celts back to the Middle East, where most other European groups can be traced. I'm guessing that probably is part of how Caucasian came to be a popular term.
     
  11. Iolo

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    Caesar is the first person who seems to have written physical descriptions of 'Celts' - but he was a Roman general with a political career to make, so he wanted to make them big and impressive. The Romans did actually notice that the Silures (my lot) looked like the people they met in Spain - wavy hair, sometimes red, and, like the Romans, not particularly tall. There are some very dark people in all the Celtic' countries, I think.

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    I'm quoting from Oppenheimer, who says otherwise. 'Caucasian' is pre-modern genetics, I think.
     
  12. lizarddust

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    Not really.

    Britain has always been a bit of a melting pot. The original inhabitants were the ancient Britons, the guys who built Stonehenge, which dates back to around 3000 BC. At around 400 BC Celts started to settle in the British Isles.

    After the Roman withdrawal mid 5th century the Saxons started to migrate to Britain. Then the Norse and Danes. The Normans in the 11th century and for a few centuries, England was very 'French'. There has been many centuries of mixing of different cultures and ethnicities.

    The Celts were pushed west and north by both the Romans and the Saxons, and therefore you have pockets of Celtic culture in the south west, Wales, Ireland (although Ireland was Celtic before the Roman and Saxon invasions) and into Scotland.
     
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    So, where did the Britons come from? I'm guessing either mainland Europe or the Middle East.
     
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    You don't know the history of either Britain, the Western Roman Empire and the Eastern Roman Empire.
     
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    An interesting group the Celts. The first evidence of Celts or Celtic culture was around the Salzburg region in Austria dating back to about 7th century BC. There has also been evidence of Celtic culture in central Turkey and along the eastern shore of the Black Sea. Also as far west as the Iberian Peninsula. Milan was originally a Celtic settlement..
     
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    People have inhabited the British Isles since before Neolithic times. Early Homo Sapiens probably paddled across the English Channel by boat from Europe or walked across during the Ice Age.
     
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    I once read that Celts were originally dark haired, dark skinned people, stout in stature. The red/blonde hair could be from mixing with northern Germanic tribes.

    Who knows, Europe at that time was a mixing pot of ethnicities as civilisations were invaded and conqueror.
     
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    What is the largest Australian ethnic group?
     
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    From the 2010 census, nearly 6 million Australians said they were born outside of Australia. 1.190 million stated they are of British decent, 500,000 born in New Zealand which also includes Maori people. New Zealanders can also be divided up into Samoan, Fijian, Tongan etc, many New Zealanders have Pacific Islander heritage. Nearly 400,000 Australians were born in China. Also, 40% of all Australians have at least one parent born overseas.

    It's really difficult nowadays which nationality has the most people in Australia. Since the early 1950s when immigration started to boom, Australia has been a mix of different ethnicities. As generations are born, people just seem to intermarry. I'm German born but my wife is of English/Scottish heritage, and her ancestors have been in Australia since the early 19th century. There is also Danish blood in her family dating back to the late 19th century.

    The Chinese have been in Australia since the mid 19th century for example. There are now a couple of generations of Chinese with Chinese appearance and family names, but can't speak Chinese. The Vietnamese is I think now the fifth largest ethnic group in Australia, but what's happening more and more is Vietnamese are starting to intermarry with other groups.

    One thing Australians dislike, is being called a Pom (English). Aussies,, are just Aussies I suppose.
     
  20. SpaceCricket79

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    Australia originated as a British penal colony, so correct me if I'm wrong - I'm assuming that most white Aussies would be of mainly Anglo-Saxon heritage.

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    Take it up with those who came up with the official definition then

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
     
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    Spain. It was just a matter of occupying the land as the ice melted.

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    Was the Channel there?
     
  22. Iolo

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    They are dead, long since. Is this guff official over there then? Weird!
     
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    If you look at Australian surnames you would know that they aren't predominantly saxon, or anglo.
     
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    Also it is worth noting that the Celts sided with the north Afrikans in the campaign against rome [hannibal]. Given the stated origin of the celts and the proximity of Spain to Afrika also allows us to connect with our brothers in Afrika, hence why celts tend to be anti-racist.
     
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    : ))) We're caucasian , not Turkic ...We live in Caucasus area since B.C. 5000-6000 years . There was no one here but we were . One of the world's oldest races .

    Source : California Universty - Prof. Joanne Nichols
     

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