Family Research Council to launch ‘Ex-Gay Pride Month’

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well bravo to them.

    Doing gay pride week better by a factor of 4, it would appear that staunch bastion of intellect and reason, the Family Research Council, has decided to designate an entire month to celebrating what does not exist, that being folks who have change their sexual orientation.

    Indeed, as gay conversion therapy has shown to be a massive fraud with absolute no value and to not achieve the desired result of through sheer magic making a person prefer a different gender than the one they do now, I am not at all amazed that a group long known for ridiculous positions and espousing their claimed Christian morality has chosen to embrace and celebrate huckster-sim and voodoo.

    Not attending would be Exodus, the gay conversion group and collection of allegedly former gay folks, as the group has disbanded after realizing that you can not seemingly actually pray someone straight.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...l-launch-ex-gay-pride-month-article-1.1388796

    If you can’t beat them, imitate them.

    Stung by a recent advances made the gay rights movement, the Family Research Council plans to host what it calls an “Ex-Gay Pride Month” dinner in Washington, D.C., in July, and has invited Rep. Michele Bachmann and other foes of same-sex marriage to speak.

    “This will be a historic day for ex-gays across the country as we unite on Capitol Hill to lobby Congress to recognize former homosexuals,” Christopher Doyle, co-founder and president of Voice of the Voiceless, said in a press release. “Now that former homosexuals are a protected class against discrimination in Washington, D.C., this opens up the door for our unique stories to be heard and achievements recognized as we celebrate the First Annual Ex-Gay Pride Month!”

    On its website, Voice of the Voiceless describes itself as acting on behalf of homosexuals who have changed their sexual orientation.

    “The mission of Voice of the Voiceless is to defend the rights of former homosexuals, individuals with unwanted same-sex attraction and their families,” the website states. “We also support the faith-based community and work actively in the United States to defend the constitutional rights of all Americans to share their views of homosexuality in the public forum.”

    Following the Supreme Court’s decision that cleared the way for gay marriage to resume in California, Family Research Council president Tony Perkins appeared on CBS’ “Face the Nation” and declared that Christian business owners will face prosecution for not taking part in gay weddings.

    “It's already happening,” Perkins said. “We're already seeing bakers and florists and photographers forced to participate in same-sex marriages under the threat of law and even jail. I can't think of anything that's more un-American than that.”

    Voice of the Voiceless, which says it is a public advocacy organization of ex-gays that represents tens of thousands of former homosexuals, has written letters to President Obama asking that he issue a proclamation recognizing Ex-Gay Pride Month.

    Aside from Bachmann (whose last name is misspelled on the event invitation), former South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint and Rep. Tim Huelskamp, both of whom staunchly oppose gay rights, have also been invited to speak.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...y-pride-month-article-1.1388796#ixzz2XzH66tDZ



    A longtime opponent of gay rights, the Family Research Council is also launching two new groups — Voice of the Voiceless, and Equality and Justice For All — to promote the proposed July 31 “Ex-Gay Pride Month.”
     
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    I started a thread on this yesterday and applaud the "voice for the voiceless"

    I doubt the media will even cover that there are folks who converted from homosexuality to heterosexuality. That goes against the junk science which has been forced down our throats. Heck, look no further than the OP who does not even want to acknowledge the people who have left being gay.
     
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    Perhaps because it has never happened, and the conversion has long been considered a fraud. Certainly the AMA does not recognize it, and Exodus, the group that had been practicing it for decodes has now disbanded after finally realizing it was worthless witch doctor nonsense.
     
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    The media won't cover it except to ridicule it, because it all boils down to this: once it is acknowledged that some people who are homo's would prefer to be hetero's, it is also understood that being gay is abnormal and something that should be fixed whenever possible.

    Can't have that because they don't want homo's feeling bad about themselves.
     
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    Ridicule the progressive left's useful idiots....gays.... and you're a heretic...
    ridicule former gays and you're in compliance with the Cultural Marxist tenets set forth by the High Church of Progressive Dogma.

    Awww.... damnit! Couldn't resist!!
     
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    I was a Christian who prefers to be Buddhist. That means Christianity is abnormal and should be fixed whenever possible. Your logic is retarded.
     
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    Except the fact sexual orientation is likely set in stone (especially when one has reached sexual maturity) and that "ex-gays" have come out in droves to say while they may have adopted the heterosexual lifestyle (and are living a lie at the expense of their poor wives/children), they are still homosexual in their orientation. Changing your lifestyle and changing your orientation are two different things, and if these "ex-gay" ministries would just open up and admit they what they offer is not ridding you of homosexual attraction but how "act" straight and adopt a heterosexual lifestyle, then they would have slightly more credibility (ethical questions aside)...

    Playing sports and doing boy-scouts esque "manly" things does not a straight man make.
     
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    I'm not going to accept something without proof.

    Sexual arousal can be measured by certain sceintific equipment. If a person volunteered to be assessed before and after the "treatment" and somehow picked up heterosexual attraction, then the claim would have credibility. As it stands though, we only have hear-say.

    Why are you so convinced it works? Plenty of gay men live heterosexual lifestyles, even ones who haven't had any "treatment".
     
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    I say any excuse for a parade or cocktails! Will they be undressing down to briefs and how hot are they?
     
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    Ridicule well deserved!

    The Family Research Council has been a bastion of gay bashing, religious bigotry and racism since its inception. It is a front for Pittsburg oil billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife.

    I suppose that there may be a few people who lived as homosexuals for a while and then decided that they preferred to be hetrosexuals.

    The "pray the gay away" nonsense is just that, though.

    And having an right wing astroturf pretend that they represent some "movement" that they just invented when they put the website up is dishonest at best.

    What this really is, is a chance to get Jim DeMint and Michelle Bachman on TV.
     
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    Indeed, gay conversion therapy has been shown to be utterly worthless. I am certain there are folks who abstain form gay sex and say they are now straight, but that does not mean they are.
     
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    Given the religious connections, I doubt there will be much partying or many cosmopolitans going around.... and definitely no partial nudity lest the "old" temptations come back.

    Anyone think it's a really silly idea though putting all these lost, sexually repressed souls together in one big event?
     
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    I am not going to question a person if they believe that they have converted then good for them. I feel the same for any man or woman who switches to homosexuality. If they say that they are now gay or received help in converting to gay then good for them. If they are happy with it then what business is it of mine? I won't try and discredit them the way you are. Why do you feel the need to discredit the claims made by individuals? Who in the heck are you to know what they are doing? I again submit that it is the statist leftist in you which is the issue. You want to try and control people
     
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    What about people who are bi? Are they just not gay/straight enough for a parade. Personally I think most
    women are just repressed swingers. We need a month or two or twelve of awareness. ;)
     
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    wow

    just wow
     
  16. DevilMay

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    I'm not at all closed to the idea of it, I just don't think it's very likely given what the "treatment" consists of.

    Electric shock treatment shown with gay porn to install negative connections, and positive experiences coupled with lesbian porn on the other hand.... That's not what they are doing though.

    My rejection of the idea as a gay man comes from being younger and trying to be heterosexual to no avail. Your support of the idea comes from the fact you have an anti-gay bias.
     
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    No. This is one parade I will pay to see. If you come with me, we'll bring the cocktails and have our own party!
     
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    Really? I would.

    Given that the therapy used to convert them has been shown to be utterly worthless, and former "pray it straight" groups have disbanded and stated that their murmuring did not actually change someone, a person who claims to have had their sexual orientation changed would be very dubious at best, and a complete fraud or utterly dishonest in all likelihood, and I would question it.
     
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    so, you simply discard the words of those who have changed? Perhaps it did not work for you but it doesn't mean it didn't work for others who claim that it did.

    The patch and gum doesn't work for all smokers either but it does help some.
     
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    Really? I would.

    Given that the therapy used to convert them has been shown to be utterly worthless, and former "pray it straight" groups have disbanded and stated that their murmuring did not actually change someone, a person who claims to have had their sexual orientation changed would be very dubious at best, and a complete fraud or utterly dishonest in all likelihood, and I would question it.
     
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    It's a non-news story; it isn't going to generate money nor ratings, so the commerical MSM isn't going to spend time and money on covering it. It'll get coverage via the internet or perhaps NPR, but that's most likely it.
     
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    Have you actually ever listened or talked to any of these guys? They don't stop having the urges for same sex relations, nor do they feel lust for their new spouse. They are just able to control having sex with the same sex.

    That's no way to live for either the gay person (sorry, when you think gay you are gay) or the spouse they married. I wouldn't want some guy to be with me, to sleep with me every night, to marry me and think about Matt Bomer while we're doing it.

    I want a straight guy.

    I get that some people legitimately want a straight lifestyle and aren't even pressured. I've met some of those who want the type of nuclear family they can't get through sperm donation or adoption, but I still don't think that's fair to the spouse.

    Still, I'm a libertarian so...to each their own. You want that type of life...go on with your bad self.
     
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    Control people? You've gotta be kidding me. I'm rightly questioning the logic behind the so-called "treatment". You're saying I can't ask questions or form opinions on things? I think you're the one being controlling darlin'.

    The fact is the people claiming it works HATE their homosexuality, so they have every reason to lie and say they no longer feel any sexual attraction towards other men. The fact over 50% of those who have experienced the treatment claim it doesn't work gives credibility to my belief. The fact I have personally tried heterosexual relationships/hours 'with' lesbian porn gives credibility to my beliefs.

    Yours are motivated by your disdain for homosexuality, to the point you go all knee-jerk defensive on these "ex-gay" people. Even though you probably have no personal experience with trying to alter your sexual orientation.

    How ****ing predictable.
     
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    I don't think they can convert but I wouldn't be that rude as to question someone about something so personal. But then I try to be respectful of people. ((shrugs))

    - - - Updated - - -

    Why would you watch lesbian porn?
     
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    In a word, yes. Because even among those claiming to be "cured" (i.e. with wife and kids), they rarely explicitly state they no longer have any homosexual attractions. Or that they have a fulfilling sex life with their wives. Calling yourself "ex-gay" is IMO a reference to the change in lifestyle, not a 180 degree change in sexual attraction.

    Why do you discount the words of those claiming it doesn't work? It seems those who WANT it to work and hate their homosexuality have far bigger reasons to lie.
     

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