Zimmerman Trial (Friday July 5th)

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  1. Hairytic

    Hairytic New Member

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    In other words no, you have no evidence. It isn't common knowledge, it is speculation .
     
  2. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    You identify yourself and show some respect when asked either "Why are you following me?" or "Have you got a problem?" You don't mouth of like a thug defending turf or a boy bumper who has found a victim.

    And you keep your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hands out of your pockets.
     
  3. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Verbal manure??? Very creative. There are laws against killing out of stupidity, and one of them is referred to as manslaughter. Hopefully you are capable of understanding the same.
     
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    leftysergeant New Member

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    And Martin had reason to fear the weirdo. FAIL.
     
  5. Eighty Deuce

    Eighty Deuce New Member Past Donor

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    Again, you are making an argument which demonstrates your clearly not understanding the process, much less the politics. Just a smidgeon of listening to some of the more objective legal pundits would enlighten you.

    Briefly. Not dismissing a case is not to agree with the Prosecution's case, much less feel that they have done a good job, or even a terrible job, of presenting it. Were this case not backed by so much political pressure, it never would have gone to trial. However, even if BDLR were caught in bed with a live boy or a dead girl, no Judge is going to do anything except hide behind a Jury verdict on this one.
     
  6. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    :roflol: Straight from the NW manual? Got a reference?You guys are so completely desperate. :roflol:
    George had no duty to say anything, had every right to put his hands in his pocket, and had every right to walk through his own damn neighborhood!!!


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    Sure, fear would make a rational person flee to his house or call the police on the phone he had in his hand. Why didn't he?
     
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    leftysergeant New Member

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    It aint assault and battery if he thinks he is adjusting a boy bumper's attitude. That's the law. They call it self-defense.
     
  8. Whaler17

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    It was obviously assault and battery, there is no question about that. So if he thinks the guy might be a molester he can attack him, that's the law huh? You are insane.

     
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    nope, it is common knowledge as a fact. kinda like the sky is blue.
     
  10. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    That will be up to the jury.
     
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    Should be quick and easy if that was all the persecution had to offer!!!!


     
  12. leftysergeant

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    You can't play both sides of the same street. You people keep shrieking that it is not illegal to follow somebody, but then you want to know why the kid didn't call the cops to report a person doing something legal?

    No wonder you come down on the side of the defendant. You don't understand the law.

    Going straight home is stupid unless you know you can get there first and there is someone there to help you in case the dirtbag catches you first. Anybody who has ever worked for a reputable security firm knows this.

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    Actually, if he knows he is a boy bumper and is not going to cease and desist, yes, he is authorized, in fact, encouraged to use force. Go for the nads.
     
  13. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Again, we will see...

    We've yet to hear the defense, but I suspect the defense will not provide anything more significant than we've learned to date.

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    George could have stayed in the car LMAO
     
  14. Whaler17

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    George was well within his rights to exit the car. Nothing illegal about walking around in your own neighborhood.
    Trayvon should never have savagely attacked Zimmerman!

     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now If I was O'Mara I coulda gotten tough with Sybrina Fulton
    and asked if she was there the night of the event.And since she
    wasn't she obviously has to rely on something as to what happened
    and whatever available facts are at her disposal.Or if her mind was
    made up and at what time.When did she come to the firm conclusion that
    her son did no wrong and was shot.Then I'd ask what she thinks of Trials.
    If their fair and necessary.That would easily give the Jury the real impression
    as to what we're dealing with here.That a grieving Mother may not be very
    useful or useful at all as a Witness who has nothing to add as to the night in
    question.Then I'd ask when She and Tracy Martin signed off on the
    Copyrighting of Trayvons name.
    Remember now ... Zimmerman is on trial for life in prison.
    Games were played to besmirch the character of Zimmerman since
    day one.If what Zimmermna stated was True,that is Yellow Journalism.
    Therefore All's Fair in Love and War.
    The Martins and Attorney Crump waged a war on Zimmerman and made
    it personal.
     
  16. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Martin was well within his rights not to runs home.. Next
     
  17. thoughtprocess

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    That is were you are wrong to not dismiss a case means the prosecution HAS a case. Im not saying she agreed with the case fully but she agreed with the arguments of their case. This is basically he said she said with witnesses trumping one another. The prosecutions only case I feel I Zimmerman's story changed. Thats what it all comes down to in the end. The jury determines who is credible or not in the form of witnesses. The judge had to make a determination given the facts. The facts are there are inconsistencies in his story. Was that not about 80% of the prosecutions arguments? She had to make a decision based on the fact. The facts that the prosecution presented before her. She made a ruling on those facts in favor of the prosecution because it was credible and there was indeed evidence. Now the only argument the prosecution really has is Zimmermans story. She didnt pick sides so to speak but thats mostly what she had to make her determination. Those factors. She ruled in the PROSECUTIONS favor thus their argument was valid and the case continues on. The prosecution won that battle because they proved inconsistencies. Right or wrong? Case law the judge is well versed so the prosecution only really could present those facts and the defense reiterated that fact continually. So in making a determination she took into account the consistencies did she not? The defense could have asked for a further explanation but they did not? So the majority of the facts that spurred the judges opinion is inconsistencies because there was no real other evidence.
     
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    So you admit that George exiting his car was legal. To then show Manslaughter, you have to show a reckless or negligent behavior that directly causes the death of another.

    Which you have just illustrated, by equivalent association, you cannot.

    Of course, you can bloviate forever, but that will not aid the lack of credibility in what you claim.
     
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    Eighty Deuce New Member Past Donor

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    Again, you are making assumptions about the Law, and Court process, that are false. You are also inventing process.

    I guess in your mind you just crapped a masterpiece. To the rest of us, its still just a turd.
     
  20. Whaler17

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    Was he within his rights to jump Zimmerman and beat him after pinning him to the ground? NEXT!
     
  21. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    82, you seem to have a clue as to how the law in FL works. Do your really believe that this will end with anything other than manslaughter?? Maybe ask your bother or daughter for some input.
     
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    GZ was caught in several lies. His word is all that supports his claim of self-defense.

    FAIL.
     
  23. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Acquittal.
     
  24. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    States last witness " my opinion can change every hour " LOL . Great witness state , well played !

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    Keep thinking that as he walks .
     
  25. JohnnyMo

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    If George caused Martin to fear for his life, yes.

    For every action there is a reaction.
     
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