I never really cared about politics let alone abortion until about -

Until about 6 months ago when I actually had an abortion. I found out I was pregnant a couple of months after what was probably the biggest mistake of my life - sleeping with my ex! Never do that folks, it's just dumb - and of course not being in a relationship with him was a huge factor and I simply couldn't afford it. The doctor estimated I was about 8 and a half weeks along, give or take a week and lo and behold it turned out to be ectopic. The doc said it was a damn good thing I had regular periods and was keeping track because I needed a medically necessary abortion right away.

I was kind of relieved that it was considered to be medically necessary though because then I could tell friends and family about it without that whole stigma attached that -oh she chose an abortion for convenience sake only!- but the reality is that is why I was there to begin with, for what some call convenience sake reasons. I was there because I didn't want to have a baby yet, because I couldn't afford it, because I wasn't in a relationship with the guy who knocked me up. I have definitely learned from this though and recently got on some hormonal birth control to prevent this from ever happening again.

I am not against abortion at all though and I probably would have had one either way. Talking about my experience and abortion in general with others really opened my eyes to all the people who are so prejudiced against it for reasons other than what are medically necessary.

I found out one of my girlfriends is very pro-life and I told her about what happened to me but I also told her that I would have done it even if it wasn't medically necessary. I have been getting the feeling she doesn't like me very much anymore, all over this one issue. It amazes me really.

 

It'll be interesting to see how many "pro-lifers" around here read the entire post noticing one certain word.

 

I don't see anything amazing about a person who values innocent human life disliking a person who does not.

 

Glad you got on birth control to make sure this never happens again. Unfortunately for too many women, abortion IS birth control.

 

Wow, you are very new here and this is very personal. Be ready for a lot of viscousness.

The only thing going for you is that most of the posters on here like to keep things in the abstract, personal anecdotes are like garlic to vampires for them.

Having a medically necessary abortion may not have affected your ultimate decision, but it will help with the regret factor. I have known several girls who have had them and with some the regret is chronic. I personally feel that an abortion within the time you had yours precedes the fetus being a full human, but emotions can tell a pregnant mother an entirely different thing.

I hope our crazies on here don't scare you away, we need more of the female voice on here.

peace

 

There's one......blowing the trick for the rest but....

yguy, what is an "ectopic pregnancy"?

 

To be fair I think you're reading the one word without noticing the rest of the post.

 

Are those not matters of convenience? I'm not necessarily objecting to abortion in such situations but I think you need to be honest about the principles there.

That doesn't guarantee it won't happen again. There is only one thing that can achieve that.

There are plenty of extreme views but this is one issue where I can see at least some logic behind pretty much all of them. It is interesting that I know a girl who had a not dissimilar experience to yours (albeit without the ectopic pregnancy aspect) and it took her opinion in entirely the opposite direction.

It's terribly impolite to ask a lady where I come from but I am casually curious as to how old you are. Feel free to keep it to yourself or just give a general range if you like.

 

Quite the contrary....as yguy showed. The fact that it was an ectopic pregnancy.

Do YOU know what an ectopic pregnancy is?

 

Responsibility.

 

Sure, but said that she would probably have opted for an abortion anyway and was raising the issue more generally, hence her references to reasons other the medical and her friends response to her saying she would have had an abortion even if it hadn't been medically necessary.

 

had you become a single mom, she might of not like you for that reason too...

... consider yourself lucky, real frends would stick with you thru thick and thin


.

 

Doesn't matter, obviously...

...but if you need help comprehending the issue, there it is.

 

You've had over an hour to Google it.....and it DOES matter as it is part of Peachy's story that YOU felt you needed to comment on.

Or DID you Google it...and like most "pro-lifers" can't give an honest answer because you couldn't possibly defend saying "No, even if it's an ectopic pregnancy...no abortions ever!!!!"?

- - - Updated - - -

HJ....what is an ectopic pregnancy?

 

Here is my question, after all this:

Why was getting on birth control the answer to your problems?

Are you incapable of self-control? Do you as a woman, not know your own signs concerning when you are fertile or not-fertile?

My soapbox: I am astounded by the number of women, who cannot identify their own cyclical clock. The basic knowledge of how one's body functions is a completely foreign concept to alot of women. I don't understand the idea that, "B/c I don't want to get pregnant, I am going to take hormones and take my perfectly healthy body and soak it in artificial hormones, which by and large can retard my own body's production of hormones, all so I can FEEL safe if I choose to have sex, which I won't want to have sex, b/c this pill is going to kill my libido and I won't want to have sex."

I don't understand that mentality. That a pill is the fixer of people's problems. Pills treat symptoms. Fertility is not a disease. So the pill is taken for other "psychological" reasons. How much money is wasted on the pill a year or a lifetime? The pill just doesn't compute with me as an answer to people's problems.

The problem is psychological. To me it says, this person doesn't trust themselves to make the right decision when the time comes. That leads on into, character issues. Dignity issues. Self-esteem issues.

You become a slave to a tiny pill.

Anyways, that is my soapbox.

As for the ectopic pregnancy, it is one of the very few and limited reasons an abortion should be done. That is a life threatening situation for both baby & mom.

This entire issue is so simple to avoid. Simply don't engage in any action where your not willing to accept the consequences. If your not prepared to raise a family, don't have sex. And I am tired of people acting like humans are a bunch of mindless rabid animals, we aren't. Think about someone other then yourself. If you don't want a baby, then think about your actions before you potentially create another life. Think about that life, before you think about your own or your lover. And killing life, is not a part of that equation. Nor, is artificially retarding your own bodies actions. Sorry, but the potential for life occurs before conception, not after. Once conception has occurred, potential has been realized, it now moves into sustaining life that YOU, whether you like it or not, helped to create.

If someone is not prepared to meet those standards, that simple level of human dignity, then that person has no business calling themselves an adult, mature human being. And I am sorry, but the pill does not equal maturity, nor is it an intelligent decision.

 

Hat, two quick questions-

1. Could you explain IN DETAIL to some here what an ectopic pregnancy is....and why a fervant "pro-lifer" like yourself supports abortion in the case of ectopic pregnancy?

2. Given your crticism of contraception and promotion of abstinence or the "rhythm method".....can I guess that you are member of the Roman Catholic Church?

 

You have my deepest respect for posting this, I would hope the resident zealots would respect your decision and the reasoning behind it, but I am not surprised that they haven't. It only goes further to show that the real agenda they have isn't just about abortion it is about maintaining the sexual inequality between men and woman.

 

No it is not. The part I commented on doesn't have a damn thing to do with any medical condition, as is obvious to everyone who can read at least as well as a sixth grader - with, of course, the possible exception of leftard hacks.

 

An ectopic pregnancy is when the embryo implants itself outside of the uterine cavity. In most ectopic cases (about 98%), this type of pregnancy is often referred to as a "tubal" or "tubal pregnancy" because the embryo implants itself in one of the woman's fallopian tubes. When the embryo implants itself in say the cervix, ovaries, or even the abdomen, these are also ectopic "non-tubal" pregnancies. An ectopic pregnancy often results in a miscarriage. If the body doesn't miscarry the embryo, then the pregnancy can be ended with medication or surgery.

While technically terminating this type of pregnancy would medically be considered abortion, most people (and even the most ardent pro-lifers) don't consider it abortion and don't have a problem with this type of termination, because the mother's life IS in danger and the so-called fetus is not viable. Thankfully the treatment for an ectopic pregnancy has never been an issue (by pro-life or abortion rights activists) before OR after the Roe v Wade decision....medical intervention for ectopic pregnancies has always been legal and appropriate.


PeachyKeen....you have my sympathies. I'm sorry that found yourself in such an unfortunate circumstance.

 

yguy, do you oppose women with ectopic pregnancies from getting abortions? Yes or No?

 

Exactly....interestingly enough, the initial responses to PK....wouldn't address ectopic pregnancy or why terminating the pregnancy was needed.

Which again makes one wonder on the VERACITY of the "pro-lifers" who say they would support abortion even if the woman's health or even life was in danger....since they don't even notice such "minor details" before they leap into a post.....as I predicted.

 

Birth control pills are not a reliable way to prevent pregnancy. Make sure you combine that with some other additional form of contraception also.

 

The embryo develops outside the womb. As far as I'm aware, the child guaranteed not to come to term and it's potentially fatal to the woman.

 

I am just expressing my amazement to how personally some people take this issue still in this day and age when it's been legal for so long.

- - - Updated - - -

Oh me too. I noticed several other fantastic side effects to birth control, lighter periods, few to no pimples. it's awesome!

To your other response, is that true? Do some women use it as a form of birth control? I figured most women were in the same boat as me, having one incident and learning from it, but I could be wrong.

 

I chose not to mention it because I didn't think it was relevant to the key points of her post, certainly not to the points I had any comment to make on. I'd resent you making any assumptions about me on the basis of that choice alone.