Fifth consecutive poll shows national majority support for same-sex marriage

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  1. martin_777

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    Looking at fact, that you keep trolling me and portraying me as some kind of evil, saying something what I never said, I am getting a lesson, that the message you want to pass me - I will harass and hunt you don't if I won't accept these disguising "gay rights".
    Seeing that, I really see the reasons why people bull gays. It encourages me more and more why I should fight these "gay rights".
     
  2. martin_777

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    I have all rights to spread my ideas and unite people like myself. You don't have rights to dictate me with whom I want to be around and whom I should like, what to think, what to say, etc. This is not USSR, this is USA.
    You already told me that and I already answered that. What is the point to repeat this over and over? I understand that you want to discourage me from doing it, like I am going to freak out? Or I will see how persistent you are - I give up? You are not going to change me. What you are doing is this: :wall: You started - you finish.

    Let's read this again:

    We need to expand freedoms around the world and let people have more choices and convenience about what lifestyle they prefer and which people they want to be around.
    People should have rights to isolate themselves from people they don't like. The post, where I gave you example about Indian reservations, 62+ years communities, houses for mentally sick and yes, prisons, was deleted. So, people do isolate themselves from other people they don't like. You are not that bad as prisoners, you are mentally sick, but not that dangerously, so something similar to Indian reservations or 62+ years living communities would work, let's say on a city or county level. So that you and me wouldn't need to move too far from our jobs and friends. Did you get it now?
     
  3. martin_777

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    Point me, where I ever said that I restrict gay people to live around straight people?
    From here: http://www.politicalforum.com/gay-l...port-same-sex-marriage-28.html#post1062265141

    Don't lie.
     
  4. martin_777

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    So, you couldn't point me, where I ever said "where you should live and where you shouldn't"? See? You are lier.


    I will be able to fine a gay for exhibiting his "gay behaviour" in Straightland. Sorry. You can have that freedom in Gayland. You can't dictate me what I can and what I can't.
    It's your problem that someone doesn't like you because you are gay, not mine. No one is breaking into your bedroom. Barricade yourself on your own property and don't let there anybody, who is not gay. Stop watching TV, listening to Radio, using Internet, if you see there anti gay comments. Problem solved.
     
  5. Stagnant

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    Really, really bad example.
     
  6. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    Are you going to outlaw procreation in "straightland"? Because if you don't, eventually you're going to have gay people again.
     
  7. protectionist

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    They ARE listening to the electorate. They just aren't stupidly snowed by the phony polls that you are. Hardly anyone in America supports SSM. THAT is the truth. Polls, surveys, associations, all paid off by rich homosexuals. They've all got the credibility of a wart hog. :roll:

    Those Republicans oppose SSM, and they get re-elected repeatedly. There's your REAL poll.
     
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    Prove your claims.
     
  9. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    That is BS. (You made the outlandish claim, now, please show that it isn't nonsense.)
     
  10. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Here is a bit of reality worth sharing.
     
  11. protectionist

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    As I said, PROVEN in the RE-ELECTIONS. Year after year. :nod: :D
     
  12. protectionist

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    Already shown in the very post you quoted. Read it again. (#s 282 & 286) :-D

    And 74% of the states in the US, BAN SSM. In countries throughout the world, the % is even higher. Face it, HSXs are a bunch of loons practicing a looney lifestyle, and we all know it (and you do too). :-D
     
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    Which gays are in charge of Gallup?
     
  14. leekohler2

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    There is nothing for me to face. And in case you haven't noticed, the states that ban SSM are beginning to change their tunes. You're going to lose, and you're going to lose badly, as you should. You also better get used to more countries accepting it too, most of the civilized ones do, including our neighbors to the north and south.
     
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    People that oppose same sex marriage are a dying breed. This isn't even a political issue as the majority of Republicans under 30 support gay rights. By 2020 gay rights will be a non issue for either party. There is no logical reason whatsoever to oppose gay marriage. So long as they don't force people to marry gays against their will I cannot think of a single reason to oppose it. Every state should have the right to determine whether to legalize it or not.
     
  16. Johnny-C

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    Regardless, I'm sure you are on the wrong track. This nation is changing as we speak.

    Your homophobic attitude is noted. Thanks for nothing.
     
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    What absolute drivel! ..Is that what you tell yourself to get to sleep at night? :roflol:

    Where's your evidence that all polls are rigged (including those from right-wing/conservative leaning pollsters like Rasmussen/Fox News)? Where are your "real" polls suggesting "hardly anyone in America supports SSM"? Either put up or shut up, no one wants to hear about your fantasies.
     
  18. DevilMay

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    The actual figure is 70% (and little over 50% if you include the states with CU/DPs available to same-sex couples, providing the same rights as marriage except the federal benefits/recognition).

    States likely to legislate for SSM by the end of the year are Hawaii and Illinois - the population of IL alone boosts the percentage of SSM coverage up to nearly 35%. Then there's pending legal cases in NJ, PA and NM (where half of the state population already live in counties that issue marriage licenses in a Constitutional manner).

    The dominoes continue to fall, it's only a matter of time. If you think the trend will reverse itself or come to a halt, you are sadly mistaken.
     
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    Pfft, yeah that's why there has been a huge surge in states with gay marriage, DADT was repealed, and prop 8 lost.

    You can hide your head in the sand all you like. Doesn't change anything.
     
  20. protectionist

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    What isn't changed is that 37 states ban SSM, and they aren't going to change. Looking at countries across the world, there is even a much greater majority of those than ban SSM. In all, SSM is something which gets past a ban in states with high populations of looney-minded people, and even there only by slim margins, and chronically with a rash of corrupted misinformation publicity.
     
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    You completely ignored his entire post. Are you here to have a discussion or not?
     
  22. protectionist

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    No it isn't. It's 74% (37 out of 50). And you can rant all you like about the dominoes, but there is just as much likelihood that states with SSM now, may have it voted out in the future, raising the % of NON-SSM states to 90%.
    And although I don't favor the increase of population in America, it is notable that much of the population increase now, and that forecasted for the next 20 years, is from Hispanic immigrants, who are deeply religious (Catholic), and very opposed to SSM and the whole crazy idea of homosexuality. I can easily see SSM eradicated 100% in America in my lifetime (I'm 67 years old). :nod:
     
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    I didn't ignore it, and I answered it some more in Post # 297. Are you ignoring THAT ? :giggle:
     
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    His point is that things are changing, and they will keep changing whether you like it or not. And that is quite simply the truth.
     
  25. Johnny-C

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    And that is what gay people have been fighting for all along. We know that bigots, homophobes and opposition abound... but we also are learning how to fight back 'effectively'. (And there is nothing wrong or shameful about that.) It's something that I wish had happened centuries ago.
     

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