Fifth consecutive poll shows national majority support for same-sex marriage

And those people were the conservatives of that time.

I guess that's why today's conservatives keep pushing an agenda that will roll back the clock to Medieval times.

 

Oh - states, yes. Population (a far more relevant figure), 70%. 30% of the US population now live in states where same-sex couples can access full state and federal benefits. 100% of same-sex couples in the US can access the 1,000 or so federal benefits regardless of what their state says.

Your definition of "ranting" is stating the obvious?

13 states/30% of the US population in 10 years? 50% of the population with access to either marriage or a near-identical union? Federal recognition/1000+ rights for 100% of the population?

Presenting the facts isn't ranting. The "domino effect" is obvious.

That's extremely unlikely to happen. No state that has legalised it has since shown a reverse-trend. This is one of those issues that even staunch opponents tend to soften up on after time. I've met plenty of people who have gone from being dead against to being wholly supportive, yet I've only come across one individual who claimed to have once supported SSM, but is now against it (which was due to an overall political switch not that one issue)...

And a SCOTUS ruling for SSM (which I personally think is enevitable) would prevent a state from ever rescinding the right to marry once it's been granted.

Really?! I'm absolutely amazed you believe that. Thanks for a good laugh!

Meanwhile in reality, Hispanics and Catholics both largely support SSM:

http://blogs.app.com/capitolquickie...catholics-surveyed-support-same-sex-marriage/
http://www.hrc.org/m/quinnipiac-poll-54-percent-of-american-catholics-support-same-sex-marriage

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/...ll-latinos-move-in-favor-of-gay-marriage?lite

54% of Catholics and 49% of Latinos according to those polls.

But I guess they are all wrong and rigged right, because they... because... er, that's what you think? Lol.

Isn't it funny that Hispanic/Catholic countries like Mexico, Brazil and Argentina have same-sex marriage laws/are generally pro-gay rights?

 

A lot of Catholics have pretty liberal views on gay rights, despite what the Vatican says. Not all Catholics agree with what the leadership in Vatican City proclaims.

Of all the main Christian denominations, those identifying at Catholic are the most liberal on social issues.

Evangelical Christians are the most conservative.

 

One does not become homosexual simply by being exposed to gay people, that defies all logic.

How does someone who grows up with absolutely no exposure to gay people become gay?

The feelings are innate and as far as I can tell, in-born.

Heterosexuality and strong natural urges associated with it is something experienced by around 95-97% of people while going through puberty... The rest do not. Gay people (forgetting bisexuals) aren't people who were strongly attracted to girls like most of society then managed to somehow delete and reprogram their biological tendencies.

Homosexuality is biological.

 

HA HA HA. This too funny. Ramble on, unknowing one. And then pay a visit to Florida sometime. Winter would be best. But you can be assured of one thing, Here, there will be NO SSM EVER. When you get here and see how things are, you'll understand. Pretty much same thing in Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, etc. Trust me. I speak the truth.

 

There is NO EVIDENCE of that. None has ever been produced, including not a shred of it in this thread. Dream on. Also, nice dodge. When you can't stand up to the quote, change the subject. How common.

 

I have to give you credit . You did get ONE thing right. Yes, the polls are bought and paid for. Glad to see you knew that.

 

LOL. YOU KNOW it's true. YOU KNOW.

Funny, I was thinking just that about your posts. What a coincidence!

 

No, I'm not kidding you. Yes, it would be better is you were not around your family (at least the kids anyway). And kids can always be influenced by what adults do, so it is a danger for them (ANY kids to be around homos).
Lastly, of course it is NOT acceptable, just as it is NOT accepted in 37 states of the USA, and almost the entire world.

 

Well guess what? You have no power over me or my family, and you never will.

And no, being around gay people does not make people gay. Good lord, what planet are you on? All this time you spend here spouting ignorant nonsense could be spent learning about the very people you refuse to even try to understand. Do you need people to hate? Why?

 

A majority live in a minority of states. We have this little paper called the constitution that liberals and politicians like to ignore. So gays can move to a state that wants gay marriage.

 

Liberal on social issues ? Not Hispanics. I am one of them (50%). I know them very well, and have spoken to hundreds of Hispanic immigrants (in Spanish of course). They are about as opposed to homosexuality as anyone on the planet (except maybe jihadist Muslims.....but then they are all deranged)

 

I have no problem with the few homos that are in Florida, moving to California. Move Baby, Move!

I don't hate homosexuals. I just don't fall prey to their lame propaganda, that's all.

 

You most certainly do hate us. You don't lie about people unless you hate them.

 

You want evidence for homosexuality having biological causes?

Here, educate yourself:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation
http://mobile.slate.com/articles/he...l?original_referrer=https://www.google.co.uk/

You were making the ridiculous claim that exposure to a gay person makes a child gay. Where is your proof for that??

I am convinced you just "feel" certain things are true but you don't have any actual evidence to back them up. How ironic them to demand I provide evidence...

Of course I am more than willing to and have done so. Your move.

And "nice dodge"? What freakin dodge? The only thing I was replying with that particular comment was your outlandish claim that gays shouldn't be allowed near children - lest they recruit them into homosexuality.

I asked you how that is so when so many children who have no exposure to homosexuality still grow up gay.

The only dodging I see here is your refusal to answer even the most basic of questions.

 

I got many things right in that post if you care to do your research. The claim I was responding to here was primarily that we can't win more than 37 states.

You coming back and picking out a tiny part of my post which clarifies that Catholics are Hispanics are fairly supportive of gay rights, and claiming once again that all polls relating to same-sex are rubbish... well I can only laugh.

I'm guessing this is one of those things you "feel"... -_-

So, where are your polls to the contrary, showing that "hardly anyone in the US supports SSM"?

They don't exist do they?

What nonsense.

 

Kids who are gay or bisexual (already have those feelings) are probably more likely to
COME OUT as gay if they know someone who is.

You're claiming simply knowing someone who is gay can get inside their head, delete their existing natural and innate opposite-sex urges, and create an overwhelming attraction to the same-sex...

What absolute crap.

Saying that kids are easily influenced does not mean their innate sexual urges can be changed by virtue of knowing a gay person.

 

If Hispanics aren't Liberal on issues like homosexuality, why is much of Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, ect pro-gay?

First generation Hispanics probably are more conservative than US Hispanics in general in fairness, but liberal views likely increase with each generation born in America. And they are the future. They're a demographic pro-SSM Obama won by 70%...

There's no evidence for (or logic to) your claim that Hispanic immigration will lead to a state revoking SSM, nevermind all states getting rid of it.

Like I said, the inevitable SCOTUS ruling declaring it a Constitutional right will prevent that anyway.

 

You are spreading nonsense. (It gets a little mileage here on this forum, I know.)

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Homophobia certainly has its effects on people, doesn't it?

 

You're full of it. You want to step on people's basic rights; but that will not be allowed for all time in this society.

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Anyone who uses the term "homos" in the context above... should be recognized for the homophobia they willfully exude.

 

I think some people don't care if they "hate" others. But I'm fairly satisfied by the reality that they can't stand it when the RECIPROCITY for their hatred affects them. They make their own 'hell'.

 

Wait, we're ignoring the constitution? 14th amendment says hi!

 

I'm not lying about anything, and you can't show that I am. I just don't fall for the big deception scenario that you lay on American society, and you can't stand it that I'm not scammed, like so many others. So you respond by trying to villainize me. No, that doesn't work.

 

Here >> Educate yourself (and this comes from one of the premier homosexual support orgs in America)

"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors." (American Psychological Association)

Game, set, match.

http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

And just to rub a little salt into your gaping wounds, here's another quote from YOUR supposed "evidence for homosexuality having biological causes" (which is really just more evidence of NO EVIDENCE of homosexuality having biological causes) >>> "A simple and singular determinant for sexual orientation has not been conclusively demonstrated."

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation

PS - good link. Thanks, man.

 

This is a far cry from your theory that gay people turn kids gay - implying it would be a choice/100% environmental. Where's your evidence for that?

The APA are stating correctly that no findings have CONCLUSIVELY revealed a cause, although there are mountains of evidence suggesting biological factors. I never claimed anything was proven so nothing you've posted has contridicted my point.

Apart from the abundance of evidence I have provided, my logic for it being biological is simple, however...

Heterosexuality is biologically determined, since there are many animals that rely purely on instinct, and without a compulsion to mate with the opposite sex, would die out.

Many gay people like myself never experienced ANY kind of heterosexual compulsion before, during or after puberty, unlike our peers.

Why then if heterosexuality is natural and innate, have we never experienced those urges?

Only that which is itself biological and innate can "alter" something which is biological.