Time for the U.S. to Colonize the Moon and Mars.

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  1. AboveAlpha

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    I believe that any program as comprehensive as building and colonizing the Moon and Mars would have UNLIMITED BENEFITS for Earth based businesses, manufacturing and be a huge benefit to the Global Economy.

    What is more is that such Colonization could EASILY PAY FOR ITSELF WITH A SIZABLE PROFIT TO BOOT!

    Underneath the Regula of the Lunar Surface exists vast deposits of Exotic Element Rich Meteorites and Asteroids. Such elements as Iridium, Lanthanum and Cerium.

    As well Titanium, Gold and other Elements as well as specialized Molecular Carbon specific materials are found in Meteorites and cannot be found on Earth.

    Such material and Elements collected from Lunar Meteorites and Asteroids just under the Lunar Surface are worth MULTIPLE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

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    Well, I like a good mineral hoard as much as the next person, but private industry is still years away from setting up the infrastructure to mine all of this stuff. Private industry is still in the early, preliminary stages of their individual space programs. The most impressive show so far, that I remember, was that plane that made orbital(sub-orbital?) flight. They're planning to take tourists on it, eventually, into near earth orbit for a brief, high up sight-seeing tour.
     
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    The United States Military Covert R&D Advanced Propulsion Programs have a Nuclear Plasma Pulse Detonation Drive. This information of it's existence has been released and is well know to exist.

    There is a PRIVATE CORP. that has developed this for the U.S. Military as well as NASA.

    You use this type of Propulsion and you cut travel time to Mars down to maximum 21 day's....the Moon....HOURS.

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    The pulse engine isn't going to be a comfortable travel device, from the sound of it. And forget about sending eggs... But, putting that aside...

    Private Industry will still need to acquire the rights to use this engine and also that's just the propulsion itself. It doesn't take into account any of the other structures they have to engineer or run through simulations for years.

    Time and money.. it all comes down to time and money. This isn't a backyard bottle rocket, that's why common people couldn't develop this stuff tomorrow even if we wanted to.
     
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    Believe me we have it now.

    Check out Project Orion....look at the date we first started working with Nuclear Pulse Detonation.

    LINK....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)

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    We have a blue print that's never been tested, as far as I know. So, it really is a start from scratch project. And, the nuclear detonation will produce continuous EMP pulses that will destroy any off the shelf parts that would be available for civilian use.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstar_(spacecraft)

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  9. Don Townsend

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    Boy, that wind on Mars is something ,It can make a dinosaur head that looks amazingly similar to a plesiosaur skull with perfect symmetry connected to just a bunch of old rocks that look amazingly similar to FOSSILIZED neck vertebra that just happen to be perfectly connected and aligned . Of course I haven't seen dozens of similar pictures from dinosaur digs here on the old planet earth that look very similar. Do you people really believe the B. S. you put out or are you just punking me. Really, you can't be that STUPID !

    If there is nothing on Mars but a bunch of rocks why are these other Nations including the U.S. busting their buts and budgets to get there ?! There going because the pictures the Curiosity Rover has been sending back have proved beyond any shadow of a doubt the existence of a humanoid civilization on Mars. But, NASA refuses to acknowledge what their evidence shows ? Instead there's very strong evidence they are manipulating the images to cover up even more conclusive evidence. The last video listed, shows a former NASA EMPLOYEE TESTIFYING to being a witness TO NASA's protocol of PHOTO MANIPULATION How do you explain NASA'S reluctance to admit to reality. It’s because NASA is still bound by the BROOKING'S REPORT included at the end of this Post.

    People look up all Curiosity And Mars Anomalies on YouTube . Very credible and undeniable evidence of life on Mars Being covered up by NASA. You don't really think we're spending billions of dollars and about to spend billions more on ANOTHER ROVER that's going to be EQUIPPED TO SAMPLE " DNA ", just to look at a bunch of rocks do you !

    Here’s a few videos to prove my point.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkRnMYBJeCc Egyptian carvings
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvOWnkJHHBI Egyptian statue
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XAUumX4yBE Ancient sea bed100’s of fossils 2min 13sec best Image.30 ft. fossilized marine dinosaur. 1:21 full image on the left
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU3Ye1hk9H4 Mound city
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3vWMhs2mPc Humanoids
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwLz6W3ksvY Egyptian type construction stone
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CwWCePWUIg Alien Ruins , Structures, Life
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC5K4OtYd0s Many Irrefutable Anomalies
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XDclvOVC54 Life on Earth Could Have Come From Mars
    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...21!!&sm=12
    choose Video- NASA UFOs and Anomalies !!!- Do not Watch !!! FOR ABOVE LINK NASA employee Donna Hare testifying to photo manipulation

    Proposed Studies on the Implications of Peaceful Space Activities for Human Affairs, often referred to as "the Brookings Report," was a 1960 report commissioned by NASA and created by the Brookings Institution in collaboration with NASA's Committee on Long-Range Studies. It was submitted to the House Committee on Science and Astronautics of the United States House of Representatives in the 87th United States Congress on April 18, 1961.[1] It was entered into the Congressional Record and can be found in any library possessing the Congressional Record for that year.
    The report has become noted for one short section titled, "The implications of a discovery of extraterrestrial life," which examines the potential implications of such a discovery on public attitudes and values. The section briefly considers possible public reactions to some possible scenarios for the discovery of extraterrestrial life, stressing a need for further research in this area. It recommends continuing studies to determine the likely social impact of such a discovery and its effects on public attitudes, including study of the question of how leadership should handle information about such a discovery and under what circumstances leaders might or might not find it advisable to withhold such information from the public.
    While not specifically recommending a cover-up of evidence of extraterrestrial life, Proposed Studies on the Implications of Peaceful Space Activities for Human Affairs does suggest that contact with intelligent extraterrestrial life (or strong evidence of its reality) could have a disruptive effect on human societies. Moreover, it does mention the possibility that leadership might wish to withhold evidence of extraterrestrial life from the public under some conditions]
     
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    Oh crap, I wish you hadn't posted that... I don't think I was supposed to know about it.

    Okay, this was very much a secret program of the USA, but one that was possibly "mothballed" after the story was released. And, searching through Wikipedia on various spacecraft propulsion systems it seemed like there were a lot of promising propulsion systems that were shelved due to funding cuts at NASA.

    So, it's settled, at least the Government of the USA and NASA have some good designs that can be used. But who's going to use them? Some of them are decades old, too -- they might need to be updated.

    Just what was your intensions about who was going to colonize the Moon and Mars? Was it private industry, the government, who? I wonder because both you and Kurmugeon started similar topics, I don't want to confuse the two, and I just want to know where you stand on the subject of who's going.
     
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    What, this?

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    :lol: You've got to be kidding me.
     
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    I think I just found a dragon fossil.

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    What do you think?

    - - - Updated - - -

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    The secret Martian Indian carving NASA doesn't want you to see!!
     
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    watch the first video see if that's your mind making stuff up !

    Here’s a few videos to prove my point.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkRnMYBJeCc Egyptian carvings
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvOWnkJHHBI Egyptian statue
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XAUumX4yBE Ancient sea bed100’s of fossils 2min 13sec best Image.30 ft. fossilized marine dinosaur. 1:21 full image on the left
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU3Ye1hk9H4 Mound city
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3vWMhs2mPc Humanoids
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwLz6W3ksvY Egyptian type construction stone
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CwWCePWUIg Alien Ruins , Structures, Life
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC5K4OtYd0s Many Irrefutable Anomalies
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XDclvOVC54 Life on Earth Could Have Come From Mars
    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...21!!&sm=12
    choose Video- NASA UFOs and Anomalies !!!- Do not Watch !!! FOR ABOVE LINK NASA employee Donna Hare testifying to photo manipulation
     
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    But, but it "looks just like" a Plesiosaur fossil! How can you possibly doubt it?:roflol:
     
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    Given the impossibility of really big lizards evolving in two planets i bet Earth was colonized by space faring Martian dinosaurs and specifically an aquatic species previously living on a planet where water can not exist in liquid form.
    Fantastic !
     
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    ..uh, guys? I think I discovered an irrefutable proof of.. well... see for yourself!

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    Seriously, Don Townsend should read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

    Human brain is hard-wired to search for patterns everywhere. Sometimes it finds a pattern where there is none.
     
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    Oh good lord! Those Martians are a LOT bigger than they look in the photos.
     
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    Oh, NASA is going to test the Orion spaceship in a trial planned for September, 2014. I guess the propulsion projects are going to get the green light now. I hope they meet the schedule.

    New NASA Spaceship Comes Together for 2014 Test Launch
    Orion, which is designed to take humans to the moon, asteroids and Mars, could carry up to four astronauts
    By Clara Moskowitz and SPACE.com

    LAS Tower Complete in Preparation for Orion's First Mission
    Published by Klaus Schmidt on Tue Dec 3, 2013 7:04 am via: NASA
     
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    Yep, the poor bastards escaped the Red Planet before it lost its oceans only to be wiped out by a meteor strike on their new home some 65 million years ago. :(
     
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    Proof that God is actually female... Or a faygeleh..
     
  22. Don Townsend

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    People don't listen to these paid trolls trying to keep a lid on the truth . Look at my evidence MAKE UP YOUR OWN MINDS !!!!!!!

    If there is nothing on Mars but a bunch of rocks why are these other Nations including the U.S. busting their buts and budgets to get there ?! There going because the pictures the Curiosity Rover has been sending back have proved beyond any shadow of a doubt the existence of a humanoid civilization on Mars. But, NASA refuses to acknowledge what their evidence shows ? Instead there's very strong evidence they are manipulating the images to cover up even more conclusive evidence. The last video listed, shows a former NASA EMPLOYEE TESTIFYING to being a witness TO NASA's protocol of PHOTO MANIPULATION How do you explain NASA'S reluctance to admit to reality. It’s because NASA is still bound by the BROOKING'S REPORT included at the end of this Post.

    People look up all Curiosity And Mars Anomalies on YouTube . Very credible and undeniable evidence of life on Mars Being covered up by NASA. You don't really think we're spending billions of dollars and about to spend billions more on ANOTHER ROVER that's going to be EQUIPPED TO SAMPLE " DNA ", just to look at a bunch of rocks do you !

    Here’s a few videos to prove my point.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkRnMYBJeCc Egyptian carvings Undeniable proof .See if your mind is making all this up!
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvOWnkJHHBI Egyptian statue
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XAUumX4yBE Ancient sea bed100’s of fossils 2min 13sec best Image.30 ft. fossilized marine dinosaur. 1:21 full image on the left
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU3Ye1hk9H4 Mound city
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3vWMhs2mPc Humanoids
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwLz6W3ksvY Egyptian type construction stone. Do you think the wind can produce perfect square blocks and right angles
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CwWCePWUIg Alien Ruins , Structures, Life
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC5K4OtYd0s Many Irrefutable Anomalies
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XDclvOVC54 Life on Earth Could Have Come From Mars Says very PROMINENT SCIENTIST
    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...21!!&sm=12
    choose Video- NASA UFOs and Anomalies !!!- Do not Watch !!! FOR ABOVE LINK NASA employee Donna Hare testifying to photo manipulation

    Proposed Studies on the Implications of Peaceful Space Activities for Human Affairs, often referred to as "the Brookings Report," was a 1960 report commissioned by NASA and created by the Brookings Institution in collaboration with NASA's Committee on Long-Range Studies. It was submitted to the House Committee on Science and Astronautics of the United States House of Representatives in the 87th United States Congress on April 18, 1961.[1] It was entered into the Congressional Record and can be found in any library possessing the Congressional Record for that year.
    The report has become noted for one short section titled, "The implications of a discovery of extraterrestrial life," which examines the potential implications of such a discovery on public attitudes and values. The section briefly considers possible public reactions to some possible scenarios for the discovery of extraterrestrial life, stressing a need for further research in this area. It recommends continuing studies to determine the likely social impact of such a discovery and its effects on public attitudes, including study of the question of how leadership should handle information about such a discovery and under what circumstances leaders might or might not find it advisable to withhold such information from the public.
    While not specifically recommending a cover-up of evidence of extraterrestrial life, Proposed Studies on the Implications of Peaceful Space Activities for Human Affairs does suggest that contact with intelligent extraterrestrial life (or strong evidence of its reality) could have a disruptive effect on human societies. Moreover, it does mention the possibility that leadership might wish to withhold evidence of extraterrestrial life from the public under some conditions.[4]
     
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    Which nations? Only the US attempted any surface exploration and the cost was a mere pocket change. It certainly does not look like they are trying hard.
     
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    India launched a mission about 2 days ago and China is not far behind and they both have manned missions scheduled before the U.S. I don't know if I'd call several billion dollars
    pocket change !
     
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    Come on, Don. Are you Scott/Cosmored/etc.? You're starting to come off an awful lot like that character here.
     

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