The Case For a Black Egypt

Pretty much all of the Pharaohs were black, the ones you are referencing are Nubians, from Sudan. The Nubians and Kemetians were both Hamitic.

 

prove it.

 

No, most Arabs are semites, caucasian is a now defunct word disregarded by the scientific community.
its the 21st century now, move on.

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Israelite literature clearly states the Pharaoh's were all black.

 

According to Israelite literature, the AEgyptians WERE NOT ARABS/SEMITES. They were Hamitic, not semitic.

 

you are aware that the Bible is not a biology or history book.

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now you're being dishonest.

the Bible never says any such thing.

 

Israelite literature clearly states the Ethiopians and AEgyptians were brothers and both Hamitic. So too was Somalia and Eritrea. Call them whatever colour you want but most would agree that Somalians and Ethiopians are 'black'. Ethiopia means dark/burnt skin and Ethiopians have never been invaded to the extent that every other nation in the region has. Its fair to conclude todays Ethiopians are very similar to that of antiquity, the same cannot be said about Egypt and Israel.

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sure its not YOUR history book, you are a european after all.

 

so you admit that the Bible never says all the Pharaohs were black?

good to hear it.

 

I was referencing 100 years of black pharaohs in the 25th dynasty... How the h*ll would I know what color the rest of the Egyptian pharaohs were? If you follow the link that I posted.. the Egyptians seem to have other groups of other colors even as early as the Anu people.

I don't put much stock in the Hamitic thing since I think Noah was a king from Sumer.

 

Existence of Several Groups

But the Anu are only one contribution to Egyptian civilization. There are others, as is being revealed more and more with the latest archaeological discoveries in the south of Egypt. We should include also the Mesnitu (whom certain researchers identify with the Shemsu Hor) who came from Punt, more precisely from Somalia. Their land was called Ta Neteru ('the land of the gods'). They were mostly metal workers and blacksmiths and ended up eventually dominating the Anu and their Nubian land Ta Seti ('the land of the bond' or 'the land of the prow' according to translation) of Sudan. Gradually the two lands were assimilated into one, Ta Khent ('land of the beginning'). The physical difference between the Anu and the Mesnitu is noted in their jaws: those of the Anu are rounder and short whereas those of the Mesnitu are square like that of Narmer-Menes. But there are also sub-groups within these two groups, such as the Beja (among the Mesnitu) and the Rekhytu people in north (who arrived in the valley of the Nile by Coptos) and groups supporting or mixing with the Anu coming from Sinai and Libya.



http://www.gigalresearch.com/uk/publications-pharaohs.php

 

How would the authors of 'The black pharaohs' article know what colour the other Pharaohs were? The 25th dynasty isnt noted for its 'black pharoahs' because most of the pharoahs were. it's noted for its achievements and it's war with the Assyrians who invaded Israel. These 'black pharaoh's' (as the author likes to stress) helped defend the Israelites.

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States they were not Semites or Asian. What else could they have been if not 'black'?

 

The Sphinx, before it had its nose blown off. Afrikan or Asian features?

 

Please don't turn this into a racist issue because I am not a racist and I don't want to go there. Further, I wouldn't hurt your feelings for the world.

There is some discussion of what Herodotus actually said.. and that the Greeks thought all of Africa was Ethiopia.

What I find interesting is their art which seems to portray them in a variety of colors.

 

First ruler of Dynastic Egypt;

 

Sorry.

Yes, the colour depictions are not always the actual colour of skin, more to do with their divinity, they are shown as blues and greens also. Which is why Im not resigned to skin colour, hence features of Menes and the Sphinx, typically Afrikan.

 

Amun.

 

...it's long been known some of Egypt rulers were dark africans from the south or Upper Egypt as it was then known....and genetically their dna will still be in Egypt today...for the most part Egyptians of Lower Egypt are the same people that have been there for thousands of years and in control except for brief periods when Upper Egyptians ruled ...

 

Sittting on the Mediterranean I would think they would have been a mixed race people for a very long time.

 

http://www.gigalresearch.com/uk/publications-pharaohs.php is a helpful site.



http://www.gigalresearch.com/uk/publications-sphinx-secret.php

"The moat of the sphinx in the Ancient Empire was known in the Texts of the Pyramids as the lake of the jackal, the channel of God, the channel of Anubis, the Lake of Life ..."

 

The mediterranean would have been a natural border, interaction with those from across it were documented and these were known as 'the sea peoples' foreigners. They werent AEgyptians.

 

What makes you say that? Considering AEgypt was the most sought after kingdom in the world with numerous conquests and a for ever changing demographic since its first major breach in the form of the Persians.

 

Sailing the Mediterranean could have been fairly easy if you hugged the shores.

Sort of like this.

 

I know the Carthaginians had a very impressive navy, they pretty much ruled the med in ancient times (BCE), which europeans could have competed for dominance at the time?

 

Well.. I know there is a lot of controversy over what race the Egyptians were... and I don't have any answers.

" DNA studies at the University of Cairo report that there is little differences between modern and ancient Egyptians. Of course, books on Egypt often point to members of the Coptic Christian faith as being closer in race to the ancient Egyptians, because they supposedly do not marry outside the ancient faith.Regardless of what race came to Egypt first, what is most clear is that it has always been a melting pot of humanity, as it surely remains today. Ancient Egypt was a crossroad of civilizations, who often came to Egypt for one reason or another, and very often stayed on to become Egyptians themselves."

Read more: http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/race.htm#ixzz2nMi68bXC

 

There's no reason to think the modern day Egyptians look much different from ancient Egyptians.

 

the greeks ruled for a time, as did the romans, as did the arabs, as did others but for the most part it was Egyptians ruling Egypt...an invading army can conquer and subjugate a people and impose their culture and language on them but normally they don't replace them, the conquerors are assimilated into the greater population of the host....