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That is right because they are in no position to make demands.

It is exactly the point.

 

Why do some pull this kind of crap? Totally unrelated.

 

Jibberish, babble, etc.....how far off in the weeds to you need to go to feel like you have made an attempt at responding to my post?

 

It is simple: It is Freedom of religion, which has been established vs civil rights for gays. Different things. But you have stumbled onto something here. Why don't the gays give up on the civil rights bs and go for Freedom of Sexuality? I believe more people would go for that. Trying to hijack the civil rights movement is just lame.

 

No it doesn't make sense. It is about proof they don't or do have a choice.....there is none.

 

Ask hummingbird if prostitutes have a choice.

Are they suffering from a genetic defect also that causes them to trade sex for money?

Were child molesters "born that way?"

How about bank robbers?

 

Yeah, I don't buy that logic because it can be used for just about anyone. That is why I say claiming they deserve equality under civil rights is a phony ploy. They simply are jumping on the civil rights bandwagon and making a mockery of civil rights for those who have legitimate claims.

 

so does gang rape, shall we embrace it?

 

No. You're forcing people to not get married. Christianity does not own the rules to marriage.

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Does gang rape have all consenting adults? No? Then no. We shall not.

Why is that hard to understand?

 

If prostitution were legal they would have a choice.

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Why is it unrelated? The bible says both things. The bible says homosexuality is a sin and the bible says rapists must marry their victim. Why is one passage of the bible ignored but the other is not?

 

We're not talking about hurt feelings. We're talking about a group of people who are beaten, harassed and killed for their sexuality. You don't get to contribute to that culture anymore without consequences.

 

Which part was too hard for you to understand?
Talk to someone who is gay?????
Ask them why they are gay????

Don't know how to make it any simpler for you to understand. That may be part of this gay hatred. Failure or unable for some to understand simple sentences.

 

I never wanted to contribute to that in the first place. There are consequences already in place for such things. Political correctness, which is what you were talking about before switching tracks to something else, does not physically hurt anyone.

 

Excellent post.
I still say many hate gays because of ignorance. And many times ignorance leads to fear.
Not sure what they fear, but I hear some say, they will convert others to be gay. How ridiculous is that?

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What? You making this up?
And even if so, does this affect you? Or anyone you know?
What is your hang up?

 

Simple, it is stated daily, if you allow gays to marry, why not siblings, why not allow rape to happen, murderers to murder.
See how silly such arguments are? Probably not.

 

Does homosexuality infringe on anyone's rights?

Yes or no.

Does gang rape infringe on anyone's rights?

Yes or no.

There is no need to be aggressively stupid here.

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How is this? Last I checked states are falling like dominoes in recognizing basic human rights.

 

lol

You get pissy over stereotypes and make some of your own. LOL Fascist liberal? I am completely unaware that I believed in corporations running government.

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They are natural. They appear in nature. I think your inability to understand what the word "natural" means is preventing you from accepting facts. Something appearing in nature does not make it right, wrong, good, bad, beneficial, or detrimental. The argument is just as it states, things that appear in nature are natural by definition.

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Cannibalism too. My dog eats poop. Never mind, that's already in the mix.

 

Then stop doing it to yourself. Take an example. I just typed a message responding to a laughable argument. It just happened in nature. How does that make it natural?

Now, lets look at the definition of the word you are using:

Definition of natural (adj)
Bing Dictionary

nat·u·ral
[ nách&#601;r&#601;l ]

of nature: relating to nature
conforming with nature: in accordance with the usual course of nature
produced by nature: present in or produced by nature, not artificial or synthetic


Nothing in that definition states if something occurs in nature at any point in history automatically makes it natural. Please read the definition of words you are using next time.

 

It's his opinion. As far as the constitution is concerned, that's all the ground he needs.

They don't have to, and neither should A&E, but that's not the point. I'm wondering how some people can stand up for free speech for Robertson and celebrate the lack of it for Bashir. However, I am beginning to see from the very few people who took the time to answer my wonderings, that for some, there is a limit to acceptable free speech. For some, there are instances of speech for which they are glad to see someone punished.

 

Greetings,

I do not understand American culture. Why do people think they are the shows they watch and why do they think the characters they watch are real? The characters on this show look different from what they play on TV. This was all a stunt. Why did people take this seriously?

Saggezza,
Tuo Padre

 

Well, you & I will just have to agree to disagree on this topic.....

Homosexuality has existed since the beginning of time. There are those who insist it's their 'choice' and I just don't believe it is anymore than heterosexuals choose to be straight .... we are what we are since we were born and the fact that many gays have said they have always felt 'different' since as far back as they can remember should tell us something.

If a gay person has a choice in whom they're sexually attracted to, why don't I and other straights have a choice?

Why would a person be willing to risk everything - family & friends turning against them, being ridiculed, harassed, made to feel like a freak, an outcast if they had a choice in how they felt?

Watching what my neighbors went thru w/their gay son, not having a clue he was gay b/c Kevin kept it well hidden, finally confessing to his brothers when he was a teen showed me he was living w/an attraction he had absolutely no control over. He told his parents that he knew they would be devastated if they knew he was gay, which it did. Betty told me their world went upside down, she & hubby didn't know how to handle it, to accept it and they got into counseling, which really helped them to come to terms w/something they couldn't understand....

Anyway, sitting on the sidelines and personally witnessing a a couple who had 4 sons - 3 straight and 1 gay - a teenage kid who didn't know why he was the way he was, he did not chose it, taught me a valuable lesson that some brains are wired differently from others and that's not a choice......

Then I'd go home to my son, who at the age of 10, tho't he was going to wallpaper his br w/Playboy pin-ups, whom he & his pal found stashed in his friend's garage by the kid's dad and his pal generously shared them w/my kid....... well no, he did not.

Sometimes a parent can tell fairly early what's going on inside their kid's head, regarding matters like what their kid is naturally attracted to, which will be their natural lifestyle.......

Why are some people bisexual? My answer is it's how their brain is wired, which is different from yours and mine......

One of the many mysteries of life.....

 

Present in or produced by nature.

Learn to read before you accuse others of not doing so.

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Probably a stunt. However, your avatar is one of the weirdest metal bands I have ever had the pleasure of listening to. LOL

 

Yes, Mac, prostitutes do have a choice. They are women who chose the oldest profession in the world b/c of the $$$ and/or b/c some of them are messed up in the head. Years ago when I was working, got to be good friends w/a co-worker. One day over lunch, she told me about her past - she was a hooker in the Seattle area when she was in her late teens/early 20's. She also talked about her dad molesting her from around the age of 8 thru out her teens and it really messed her up, psychologically.

Then the day came when she made the choice to make a better life for herself, she went back to school, got educated and got a 9-5 job. She made a bad choice, then a good choice.......

I believe that pedophiles have an evil little seed in them. They're sick, twisted predators.. Some were molested as children, some were not. They are who they are and there's no cure for it. That's why I believe after their 1st offense, they should be locked up forever b/c there's nothing consensual about their sexual preference, which are small, defenseless children. Not even chemical castration is 100% effective w/these sickos......

What does deciding to rob a bank have to do w/a person's sexual orientation? Don't see the connection there......

 

I think we basically agree on that. I was speaking to trying to compare Bashir's statements with Robertson's.