California is drying out

How the CA government spends money has nothing to do with which policies they adopt; if they wanted water resources to be a priority they would have done so. As it is CA does spend a huge amount of their budget and future spending on water related projects.

Regarding water forced to CA, not that it's any big deal to you and others, but CA is the largest economy in the USA, providing produce for the USA and world, providing millions of great jobs. You should read some data on CA before casting too many doubts about how it is managed; http://www.aquafornia.com/index.php/where-does-californias-water-come-from/

Like some of you would be happy if we didn't have Bill Gate's wealth, or highly profitable corporations, too bad you can't get your wish and let CA turn back to desert and tumbleweeds...boy wouldn't that teach everyone a lesson...

 

Where I live last year we had 21.50" of rain and this year we have 1.7" of rain with nothing in the near future. Hotter and dryer conditions are happening, along with colder and wet conditions, and they are happening more frequently which all point towards some 'form' of climate change. For the deniers you surely know we don't need huge spikes in average global temperature...just 2-3 degrees will force critical change. And you cannot sense or feel this change in your local areas; no human can distinguish the difference between 91 degrees and 94 degrees...so it is slowly sneaking up on us...and I say sneaking because of those who refuse to pay attention to the red flags...

 

Wouldn't teach me anything. I recently bought a farm beside a river that never has run dry. You incorrectly assume that things that are grown in California cannot be grown elsewhere.

 

And what about what is growing elsewhere - do we dig that up to grow what California cannot?

 

Being from Australia you probably have no idea how much land is now sitting fallow in the South due to Clinton's War on Tobacco. The Department of Agriculture pays farmers not to farm 37 million acres of farmable land alone (http://www.iatp.org/news/most-of-idled-farm-land-in-us-to-remain-fallow)

We have over 2.3 billion acres of land in the US and about half of it is agricultural which is way down from its peak (http://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2012-march/data-feature-how-is-land-used.aspx#.UthypbSFdOY)

 

Wake me, when hemp is not longer a Schedule I CS.

When Zimmy's scrips and crack, smack, and speed are Schedule II CS, something's a bit distorted.

Hemp is a resource, which should have been competing, for markets, against fossil fuels, timber, corn, and others, since 1938.

But FDR sold out a war on weed, to Hearst, Standard Oil, Mellon, and Mellon's bro-in-law HARRY ANSLINGER.

Nixon founded the DEA, when FDR's war was declared unconstitutional.

When corruption no longer consumes resources or pollutes, hemp will be a legal resource, in the USA, ALL OF IT.

 

Perception is part of the problem for deniers. They don't comprehend the danger and significance of a few degrees...only a 5c drop in average global temp would place us in a full on ice age...the average temperature sweet spot for life as we know it is a very small one, a change of only few degrees either way has enormous consquences...

 

You certainly got the last bit right.

 

No deniers here, only sceptics.

I certainly do and I'm sure the other sceptics here do too.

Is that supposed to be breaking news?

The idea of a "temperature sweet spot" is a personal thing, ask any Inuit or Bedouin.

I don't know where you live, but here, the summer temperature can vary as much as 22º C in one day, which is quite normal.

 

I wonder why the President hasn't gotten involved? Look what he's done for global warming - stopped that sucker dead in its tracks! And he's slowed the rise in the oceans and healed the planet as well since June 2008.

[June 4, 2008 "This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal." ]

A guy who can do all that should be able to bring a little water to California in a few hours.

[Just teasing]

 

Cooling in the Pacific translates to drought in CA which is already in a 2 year cycle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=z6Y2iF99kOY#t=50

 

This is interesting. So, can we say, that the Earth is currently returning to its more geohistorically sustained global temperature level? I think that temperature is ~5-10 degrees higher than today, and the current glaciation period is now officially over?

This is also a perfect opportunity to sell people the story that this is man made, so that investors can buy new government bonds underpinned by new taxes such as the carbon tax.

 

Maybe you ought to notify the IPCC about this. They don't believe global warming (or CO2) is causing more extreme weather. [IPCC SREX report ( IPCC Special Report on Extremes) Chapter 4]. Even Chapter 2 of AR5 agreed.

 

there are no skeptics, just those who don't understand grade school science...deniers

WOOOOooSSSSH!

and that was the sound of my post going right over your head...which confirms you absolutely have no grasp of the situation...

 

Aha, so the Glowbull warming "story" needs to be "sold" to the people,

Very interesting.

 

That 'Guru' tag appears to have gone to your head.

 

Why do you like a subject? Because a teacher sold it to you at school. I like geology, because my teacher sold it to me in middle school. Isn't every personal interest a result of a sales job?

 

sorry its just the opposite..warms waters off the s.f coast causes the the storms to move north..it is called el nino..but rain is starting to show up in the forecast for late next week...

 

Quite often, but not always.

Ask around, you'll find that not everyone has bought into the climate change catastrophe.

 

"Right now we’re seeing the same kind of major events on a regional scale that occurred the last time the Pacific Ocean shifted its temperature phase from warm to cold when the Atlantic was in a warm phase, and globally, the Earth’s temps have fallen about .05C in the last four years."

"Here in the U.S., a drop in tropical Pacific temperatures causes less moisture to be present in the atmosphere than when that ocean is in its warming state. That causes conditions to be drier, especially near and east of the Rockies, as well as in the Deep South. This is when we see hotter, drier summers; winters tend be warmer earlier, and colder later."

"Well, that’s what we saw after the cold period was over in the ‘60s and ‘70s. The rise began and the Atlantic joined it in the ‘90s, just like now. As soon as the atmosphere adjusted to the oceans, the temperatures leveled off. And now, with the Pacific cooling, they are starting down again. This is basic climate cycle theory, and it can be plainly seen in a link between surface and air temperatures. None of this has anything to do with atmospheric carbon dioxide levels."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybe...eather-on-global-warming-is-extreme-nonsense/

 

I just talk about reality...and reality says CA is the 8th largest economy in the world, the most populated state in the USA, growing a huge percentage of fresh produce for the USA, etc. etc. etc. If you wish to wager that Idaho or some other state is going to take the place of CA...bring it on...

 

It is difficult for me to understand people who cannot grasp the concept of fossil fuel emissions. If a fossil fuel process is operating, it is polluting the atmosphere.

It is undeniable that CO2 ppm is increasing; http://www.planetforlife.com/co2history/index.html

Scientists know the 'potential' of this CO2 trend.

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4869093987058053&w=347&h=188&c=7&rs=1&pid=1.7
We can see, smell, taste and feel the effects of this pollution.

Don't you think we can do better?

 

I think that those guys who oppose the idea oppose it because they don't want to pay more taxes at the excuse of it. Even I, I accept it only as a natural process, I don't accept that it would be man made.