"I accuse that woman there of having had an abortion!!!"

Another a potential future "Abortion Prohibition" hypothetical...

how would I prove my charge true?

I have no way of knowing what went on in her doctor's office....OR if she took an abortifacient in the privacy of her own home.

I have no definitive way of knowing EVEN IF the woman was pregnant before. And even if I did?...I have no way of proving she didn't have a natural abortion...i.e. miscarriage.

What's a District Attorney to do with such a case?

 

Well, the anal Puritans did what their counterparts the Anti-Choicers would love....hold the accused woman under water...if she drowns she's guilty, if she doesn't drown, she's guilty....

 

That's the point: if he can't tell if a woman's had an abortion, no one else can tell, and the law banning them is useless because......NO ONE CAN TELL! You can't prosecute without evidence.

 

Since there is no law banning abortions, that doesnt even make sense.

Are we pretending again?

 

No, but there are posters in the abortion forum who DO want abortion banned. They, however, have NEVER posted exactly HOW that law would be enforced despite being asked many times..

 

All crimes are not prosecuted for many reasons, so what's the point? How many burglaries and homicides go unsolved?

 

Since 1960, 200,000 unsolved homicides (3,700 per year) make abortion illegal and you would have over a million un-prosecuted "homicides"

Anti-abortion laws are nothing more than feel good laws, they would serve no purpose except for allowing pro-lifers to stand on their pulpit staring at the sky stating how 'moral' they are, while ignoring the reality under their feet.

I find it disingenuous that pro-lifers scream about rights when they advocate removing them from a proportion of the population .. one wonders how they would react if someone tried to remove their rights.

 

Our rights are being removed everyday, where the hell have you been??? All except the immoral perverted ones that is.

 

What are "immoral perverted rights" ?

 

Yes, we are. That was why the OP said it was a hypothetical situation...

 

Pretty bad when you have to make up stuff to discuss. Abortion is legal. The OP would prob be locked away in a padded cell if he went around guessing who's had an abortion.

Ridiculous premise.

 

Well , no Anti-Choicer has ever been able to show how cases would be prosecuted if abortion was illegal so I'm not surprised thay haven't answered your questions...or even attempted to address that issue....but then they might be real busy looking up "hypothetical...

 

Name the rights that have been removed, and even if this is true do you feel that it is ok for pro-lifers to jump on the bandwagon and do exactly what they are screaming against .. ie the removal of rights, do you feel it is ok to remove other peoples rights just because you perceive it is happening to you.

 

No surprise that pro-lifers label this hypothetical scenario as 'ridiculous' .. especially when they cannot offer an intelligent response.

 

I don't have the time or the constitution of will to actually sit here and explain why one might discuss something hypothetically, mostly because I know you know why already. Don't pretend to be dense.

Now, isn't there a thread where you can go make fun of Michelle Obama instead of meta posting in this one?

 

Sorry, I didnt realize the Abortion section is reserved for a select few. Guess youll have to get over my presence here.

Now tell me, why would anybody care if a woman had an abortion or not? Even in your make believe world where abortions are illegal, what makes you think anybody would go after the woman who's had an abortion instead of the doctor who performed the illegal procedure?

Makes no sense

 

It's reserved, like all the sub-forums, for those who want to discuss the topic, not to prattle on about how the topic shouldn't be the topic.

So you're perfectly okay with abortion being legal for a woman to perform on herself, you're just against having it done in a safe controlled medical environment? What if the doctor comes to your house and helps you? Give you advice? Tells you what drugs or other natural abortifacients to use?

What exactly is your opposition to abortion if you don't seem to have a problem with the abortion itself, only a doctor's involvement in it?

 

It's reserved for those who actually want to debate the subject and it's issues .. let us know when you want to join in on that.

LMFAO .. so you don't think they go after the accomplices of the actual person who robs a bank then or pays the assassin .. you really should think a little before posting.

 

Robbing a bank isnt the same as having an abortion... for one thing, nobody usually dies.

Your post makes no sense. What exactly do you think they would do to a woman who had an illegal abortion... put her in jail?

What's the precedence for such a belief since its never been done before... more pretending?

 

That's the point....all those Anti-Choicers who want abortion illegal ... they can NOT state HOW it would be prosecuted or proven.


And people are killed in bank robberies and NO person is killed in an abortion.

 

then you are missing the point or just being obtuse .. I reckon the latter.

Whether robbing a bank is the same as abortion or not is irrelevant, the question is does the person sat in the get-away car get arrested, charged and convicted (if found guilty) ie are they an accomplice to the bank robber?

You tell me what the punishment would be for a woman having an illegal abortion, I mean you guys call it murder, tell me what is the punishment for planning (malice aforethought) and participating in the illegal killing (murder) of another 'person'. From what research I have done the sentence can only be life imprisonment or the death penalty in the states that have it.

The precedence you seek is in every conviction of murder ever brought before the courts .. unless you are advocating that a fetus is not quite worthy of the same rights you have and as such is not quite a human being.

So the question remains, would you support the conviction of a woman to the fullest extent of the law should she be tried and convicted of procuring an illegal abortion that lead to the death of another 'person' .. care to answer, or will you evade some more?

 

So what? Not everybody is good at playing make believe.

If no one dies during an abortion, why have an abortion? Does it improve the woman's complexion or what?

 

I guess the answer is "evade some more"

 

Are we pretending the "pro-lifers" don't WANT to ban abortion, SMW?

Like how you Texan rightwingers try to pretend your new law was about "hygiene, not closing down clinics"??? Are we supposed to be that gullible?

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Answer the question then, Rapunzel....how do you PROVE that a woman had an abortion in a court of law?

 

You're all over the place, Fugazi. If you want me to play pretend with you, you have to be a little clearer on the circumstances.

I thought you said abortion isn't murder, but you use murder as an example. Do we get to make up the rules as we go along?