Total and complete ignorance about abortion can be seen when someone doen't know that all kinds of women have abortions....Republicans. Democrats, christians, Hindus, atheists, white, black, hispanic, young, old , married, single, all races all religions....and the FACTS back that up.
Why isn't your ilk concerned about miscarriages, what's the difference. Why are their lives ignored. Help me understand.
Well, if the brain works that pile of cells feels pain. Before the brain develops to the point of turning on that isn't the case. Abortion is nothing like the murder of a newborn baby. There is a special case called a non viable pregnancy. In such a case the pregnancy won't result in a living baby. Late term abortions are considered in such cases.
Our legal system is confused and contradictory. The UVVA, A FEDERAL LAW, indicates that a child in utero can be murdered from conception forward. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-108publ212/pdf/PLAW-108publ212.pdf "Whoever engages in conduct that violates any of the provisions of law listed in subsection (b) and thereby causes the death of, or bodily injury (as defined in section 1365) to, a child, who is in utero at the time the conduct takes place, is guilty of a separate offense under this section." Yet our wayward Supreme Court has determined a woman who is carrying a child in utero can kill at will up to a certain arbitrary age of the child in utero. - - - Updated - - - So, if a person has a condition that prevents them from feeling pain, anyone can kill that person at will with impunity? Just using your logic.
It is lib women who vote for democrats so that they can keep murdering their unborn children. - - - Updated - - - There isn't after libs get through crushing its skull and slashing its throat.
There are many abortions that take place after the point in which the fetus could survive outside of the mother. Abortions can take place minutes before a birth takes place.
There isn't a difference, just as there isn't a legal system for abortion(I once proposed such a measure. It got turned down). Liberals seem to think babies pop out "just like that" and only using that 'logic' would it be possible to defend our current 'system'. In other words, abortion exists on the premise of denying biological evolution. However, that 'premise' is false. From our very beginning, to the end we're evolutionary beings. Or, in the words of Genesis: "I knew you before you were in the womb." It's in this one instance where science and religion concur. Our existence is simultaneous, ever growing and only outside sources can stop or impede our evolution.
The bible quotes don't count...the laws are for EVERYONE not just the Thumpers. And ancient societies often condoned abortion up to the "quickening" (about 16 weeks)....it ain't going away....
No, a lack of pain doesn't mean a person can be murdered with impunity. There are living people with such a condition of reduced nerve sensations alive today. Of course with Abortion we aren't talking about persons. It is neither morally or ethically wrong if a group of cells is aborted that isn't a person yet, doesn't have a brain, and doesn't feel pain. And before you twist my words again, You may also consider someone who's brain dead to also be dead, and it isn't morally or ethically wrong to remove them from life support, even if they have a still beating heart in their chest.
Here's the FACTS that no one in this thread can deny: Each and Every one of the posters in this thread passed through ALL those stages; we were all once Zygotes, embryos, and fetuses. THINK ABOUT IT!!
I never knew that simply pointing out what someone said was "twisting". Of course we are talking about persons, even the UVVA recognizes that fact. All people are a clump of cells. You seemingly have nothing of value to support your case.
Just pointing out the facts to bloodless libs who could not care less about killing innocent children.
People may be clumps of cells, but there are also clumps of cells that aren't people, no matter how much we want them to be. What? I'm talking about skin blemishes and slime molds.
Yeah, too bad I cared about the killing of innocent children and not the pro-life side here in this topic who decided to make the murder of children and turn it into a cheap shot at abortion.
The pro-life crowd views those as children before they were born ~ A point you seem to be missing. When you call killing life a "Right" you delve into debate like this.
Yes, well, it seems to me that some on the pro-life side consider children to be born at the moment of marriage. Abortion is the last step in a long line of actions, protection, and other things designed to prevent the birth of unwanted children. Increase the health of all involved. And, to some extent, prevent overpopulation and its strain on resources.
Oh, I'm sorry...there were facts??? Could you please point out the "facts" you're referring to? And I have seen nowhere where libs, bloodless or otherwise, said they didn't care about "killing innocent children".... I have seen conservatives who don't care if real living babies are blown to bits, mutilated or killed in war if conservatives think it keeps their sorry butts safe....
Legal person vs non person. According to the laws of the land. - - - Updated - - - How many abortions happen while the woman is in delivery? I may be wrong but that would be illegal.
Age? There is no age of an unborn. There is no BC, no SS, nothing. Legally. - - - Updated - - - But it makes a difference by our laws. BTW - Tri means 3. How can there be a 4th trimester?