7 Dead Babies Found in Home, Any different than Abortion really?

But clearly zygotes, embryos, and fetuses aren't some of those so you should really try to stay on topic. Abortion is a homicide, legally and undeniably!

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Read the UVVA, a FEDERAL LAW! they are persons from conception forward.

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Heavy sigh, you are incorrect again. Trimesters are measures of age, 3 months, 12 weeks, etc are measures of age.

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It is simple, it is a matter of legal versus illegal. But laws change every day. The problem is the laws are directly contradictory. A federal law states that a child in utero at any age can be murdered, so the killing of one is a homicide by any reasonable definition. Then there is the wayward Supreme Court ruling that says otherwise.

 

Your stance is clear...law means nothing to you.


Rant on....

 

to kill a sentient being is murder.
if an abortion is done before the fetus is self aware, it is ending what would have been a baby.

 

Yuppers, that's what it does.....

 

you are so in denial. something that is so obviously morally wrong, you can't even realize it.

 

"in denial"...oh , you learned a new catch phrase ...cute...

To what are you referring to as "obviously morally wrong" ?.

 

the sentience argument is bull(*)(*)(*)(*). You have no idea exactly when a human being becomes self aware, and I would even bet you are so ignorant as to believe that it happens at precisely the same exact point of time in development in every human being. The notion of sentience is terribly flawed as it relates to the abortion debate. Not only that, why should this be the threshold at which they are suddenly protected from would be killers?

 

As I said earlier, more to be pitied than scolded....

 

So zygotes, embryos, and fetuses are lumps of cells who are people? Too bad we didn't agree to that. Neither did the law agree to that.

Where is the case for homicide? We're nowhere near to the idea that Abortion is undeniable homicide.

 

She sounds schizophrenic...

Many questions about mom accused in infant deaths
Apr 15,`14 -- Investigators are reconstructing a mysterious decade from Megan Huntsman's life as they try to figure out how she concealed seven pregnancies before allegedly strangling or suffocating her newborns.

 

Googled it, got nothing

Sigh all you want, you're still wrong. What are the ages listed on the BC? Oh yeah, not. Not born, no BC.

 

Please post one state that allows third trimester abortion that isn't due to the health of the mother.

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A 20 week old fetus can't survive outside the mother.

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The decision is the woman's and no one else's.

That is why it is a separate crime. You also fail to take into account the injury to the mother in the process pushes the offense to great bodily harm, another reason it's counted as two crimes.

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Please post one state law that allows abortion minutes before the due date. Excluding cases where the mothers health is at stake.

 

Should I exclude any other points that make me right? Just let me know whenever you need things to be easier for you. I'll try and help.

 

Here's the thing that I don't get.

Why do the pro-lifers keep trying to suggest that the pro-choicers think that abortion is morally right?

No one is FOR abortion, ever. No one wants there to be more abortions. No one thinks abortion is a suitable solution to an accidental pregnancy.

It just isn't that way at all.

But here's the thing...instead of god after the root cause of abortions, I.E. Poor education, lack of availability of contraceptives, lack of knowledge of safe sex, and poor life choices...they go after the abortion providers. As if that's the real enemy here.

Instead of trying to close abortion clinics...why not try to fight the causes of unplanned pregnancies? Get to the root of the actual problem.

But that would make to much sense.

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So in other words you got nothing. Thought as much.

 

Sounds like you knew I had something, which is why you told me not to bring it up.

 

Even in the case of a threat to the mothers health fetuses aren't terminated "minutes" before birth.

Keep trying to spin it, your argument is see through its so pathetic.

 

Correction.

You mean the alleged health of the mother according to n abortion doctor who does not get paid if the abortion is not performed.

And "health" as libs use the word does not mean the mother will die but can merely be traumatized or inconvenienced by having an unwanted baby.

 

The difference is, those babies lives were no longer hers to make that decision with once they were born. It sounds to me like this woman is sick not only because she murdered seven newborns, but because she kept them around her house as well.

 

Even if that were true, the right to abort is still higher seeing as UVVA does absolutely positively nothing to stop a woman from choosing abortion. UVVA is nothing more than fetal property law that extends the bodily rights of a mother to include her unborn child.

In any case, it's a disingenuous law to begin with. It's only purpose was so uninformed people like yourself can come in here and say exactly what you just said and eventually have it wind up as a challenge to Roe.

 

As sick as anyone who compares what she did to abortion....only an idiot would think they were the same...

 

Do you REALLY belive that ridiculous statement?

Do you care to prove it true?

 

I do.

Abortion doctors get paid nothing if they don't do the job that the woman demands.

You mean the way Obama "proved" that regular doctors perform unnecessary surgeries just so they cn collect more money?

Libs stood up and cheered when he said that but now you sing a different tune.

 

So you can't prove it to be true....I thought so since it isn't true. I could start with the fact that there aren't "abortion doctors" or "libs" don't make other people's medical decisions but your opinion is so far out nobody and nothing could convince you of the truth.

 

""""why not try to fight the causes of unplanned pregnancies? Get to the root of the actual problem. """"


Because Anti-Choicers are stupid. They think the solution is for women ( and they believe ONLY women) to just stop having sex. ( I don't know who men will have sex with but Anti-Choicers haven't figured that out either)

Anti-Choicers think that abortion started in the 1960's...now HOW do you reason with people who don't know that abortion has been around since humans have been around, that having sex is NORMAL for humans (NORMAL humans) and that it's obvious that they aren't going to stop.

So a better way to end abortions would be sex education and affordable birth control of every kind but Anti-Choicers are against that, too!!!

 

no, a fetus prior to about 10 weeks has never shown self-awarness.
the part of the brain required to have it hasn't even developed at that point