Can Abortion's (culture of death) burden be carried and passed on for generations?

If women are not doing fine they will seek counseling, therapy or other help for their problems. That's what people usually do when they have personal problems.

 

Those who have abortions and do not struggle with the issues the five women cited previously struggle with.

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I agree women are much more likely to do so.

 

Or perhaps or even obviously want something other than a family more? Speaking generally here. What people do is often more telling than what they say.

 

If it were then there would not be the number of teenage pregnancies, and abortions there are . .whether you agree or even like it society is changing and there is nothing that can stop it.

 

I think that society is changing too but I would add and accent growing cold towards the lesser among us for a number of decades now.

 

Yes, I care about women having the freedom to do what they want.

 

I don't believe that is true, there is more care and equality given to the past perceived lesser now than in any other time in history.

We no longer lock away those who have mental problems and subject them to torture disguised as treatment.
We no longer allow children from impoverished families to starve (though it is noted that the constant fight by republicans to reduce welfare seems to want to go back to those days)
We no longer treat people with different coloured skins as lesser people
We no longer treat females as property - unless pro-lifers get their way that is.
We no longer treat people with physical disabilities as cretins and things to be paraded in side-shows.

 

That's a nice perspective.

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How do you feel about responsibility?

 

? I know you hate being specific but that's like asking a Minnesotan how they like snow....

Responsibility concerning what?
Whose responsibility?

 

can you refute, or not?

 

same is true of giving up a child for Adoption, never knowing if you delivered the child to an abusive family that molests or beats your child, many have issue with that as well, in fact some have issue because they kept the child and could not handle the job, you can find people that regret any life choices you want to if you look hard enough

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Each of your examples is affirmation of rights affirmed.

The right of a womam to terminate a pregnancy is a human right that has existed for millenia. That right was abrided by laws banning abortion begining in the late 19th century. In 1973, the US Supreme court reaffirmed that right held by women for centuries.

The right of Choice joins your list.

We no longer lock away those who have mental problems and subject them to torture disguised as treatment.
We no longer allow children from impoverished families to starve (though it is noted that the constant fight by republicans to reduce welfare seems to want to go back to those days)
We no longer treat people with different coloured skins as lesser people
We no longer treat females as property - unless pro-lifers get their way that is.
We no longer treat people with physical disabilities as cretins and things to be paraded in side-shows.
We no longer ban a woman's right to choose what is best for her and her family.

 

most women have many natural abortions throughout their life time, a few have dr assisted abortions

 

100% agree.

It absolutely amazes me that so many pro-lifers do not even know the first thing about the history of abortion, they proclaim that abortion was once illegal without even the slightest knowledge of why it was made illegal, which if they actually took the time to research they would find it had absolutely nothing to do with the zef. In fact the zef has only become a issue in abortion since about 1976.

 

Exactly. You can only hope the child you gave up will go to a loving home and not an abusive one or wallow in foster care with the rest of the 500,000 kids bouncing around in the system.

 

Nobody has the right to do whatever they want.

 

You are right, but you must first prove why someone should not be able to do something before you can make it illegal for them to do it.

So far anti-abortionists have not made any sound arguments for why women should not be free to have an abortion.

 

And where did I say they did?


Don't worry about answering, you never do.

 

Everyone has the freedom to do as they wish .. however using that freedom when it has an detrimental effect on society as a whole will land you in trouble.

 

John lennon said that people have the freedom to do as they wish as long as they don't harm others. Abortion harms the fetus.

 

That doesn't have a detrimental affect on society....

 

prove it with a peer reviewed study, that abortion doesn't have a detrimental effect on society.

 

Now Y O U want proof of something ?!


Show one that DOES...Y O U claimed it does , Y O U prove it...

 

You still haven't been able to prove I said that .... ???

 

a fetus is only an 'other' in the fairy tale land of pro-lifers, as far as medical procedure is concerned the woman ALWAYS take precedence over the fetus in certain situations, for example a doctor cannot give the woman something that will help her fetus but cause problems for her.