This Is Scott Walker's Idea Of A Living Wage

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  1. Hoosier8

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    Market demand determines the actual wage. If government would get out of the way, more entrepreneurs could start businesses and put people to work. Trying to prop up wages artificially only produces lackluster results but hey, it is a talking point for the left.
     
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    OWEblamerCare...Geez.
     
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    Facepalms for everyone! :woot:

    Two Parties, Two Directions on Taxes
    Republican governors have been cutting taxes, while Democrats have been raising them.
    http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...overnors-cut-taxes-while-democrats-raise-them

    Evidently, we're supposed to believe that some of our *cough* "progressive" *cough* friends haven't paying attention to their neo-socialist champion's innumerable pledges to raise taxes... :roflol:
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Here's a link for some stats but I realize learning something isn't nearly as much fun as repeating propaganda.
    http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2012.htm
     
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    cause that's all they got... waging class warfare ... nothing logical about it
     
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    Poor decisions and a poor attitude leads to a poor life.
     
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    Really depends on your perspective and background. My family started out as poor irish and italian immigrants and worked their ass off, ASS OFF, mainly 80 hour weeks that probably got longer when needed. They teach their kids to do, so on and so forth. The hard work has changed the family fortune ( in my family) and now all of us have at least a B.S. degree and full time , good jobs. We are not interested in other peoples sob stories due to the length my family went to to achieve our goals. Most of us worked at a bare min 40 hours while also going to school. Most of us still work over 40 hours a week. Its life, work hard !
     
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    That is just silly. A lot of us lefties are wealthy. I don't think you can actually be your own boogeyman.
     
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    Well, if there's only one person working in the family, then, yes, it should produce that amount of pay to cover it ... but ... there are a whole lot of families where both parents work. Doing the math for the South, as noted in the study from MIT, results in an hourly wage (before taxes) of $11.82 per hour, an amount that should be within the reach of almost any business.

    Beats the daylights out of me. Write to MIT and ask them.

    Yep. Don't disagree. HOWEVER, that first job at minimum wage should require minimum or no particular skills and will require a training period or weeks or a few months AND following that period, wage should be adjusted upward to an appropriate level.
     
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    Some have more opportunities than others. To pretend the playing field is equal for all indicates a certain amount of willful ignorance.
     
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    Do not be willfully ignorant then we wont have any problems. Life is not fair , who would expect levels to always be equal ?
     
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    That's no excuse. In life you make your own opportunities, especially if you weren't born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
     
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    The problem is demand not regulation. Large corporations are sitting on trillions that the are not willing to invest in increasing capacity because the demand for goods is not there. People are saving more and spending less- it is called deleveraging and it is going on now. I think it has begun to dawn on the vast majority of the public that real incomes for most Americans are not going up anytime soon and they had better begin to save if they want to survive and maybe actually retire someday.
     
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    Again, large corporations are sitting on cash because of this Administration and most jobs are not from large corporations. The hurdle to start a business is very large.
     
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    I have only heard the left use that "can of paint" description as strawman arguments against those on the right. However; those who would call people lazy bums, to me, is just using short hand for describing adults working for minimum wage and doing nothing to invest in upgrading their education, knowledge or skillset to improve their situation and also cheat the welfare system for personal gain. Those workers can in no way be confused with the truly hard working adults who do invest in their future and take the steps to get a better positon.
     
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    Think again... :)
     
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    A living wage for a family is drastically different than a single young adult. There should be no family minimum wage. You shouldn't have a family on minimum wage period. It should be enough to minimally support a single young adult. Minimal life, no dependents. Get roommates and suddenly you can stretch it out more. Want a family? Better find a career first. Should you be able to afford cable on minimum wage? Don't think so. Thats a luxury. You don't get the benefit of luxuries on minimum wage. Its MINIMUM. Go read.
     
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    it is for the many Americans as those are the majority of jobs
     
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    The problem is not the "low" minimum wage. It's inflation and the high cost of living.

    If you really want fairness, everybody should pay the same amount in taxes. Institute the flat tax rate; do away with the nonsensical and counterproductive progressive tax rate.

    Don't punish the hardworking and intelligent. There is a reason why many of us are rich.

    To somehow suggest that they are at fault for the shortcomings of others is preposterous. Face it, you liberals despise success. It's a shame, really, not to mention hypocritical... Michael Moore, anyone?

    DEBUNKED.
     
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    What's your point? For many people, a minimum wage job is as good as they're going to get.

    What does this fact have to do with my education?
     
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    That's why it's called the "minimum wage" and not a "livable wage."

    Why can't you lefties understand that????
     
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    Who came up with the idea that the minimum wage is supposed to support a family of four??

    When you are working for the least amount allowed by law you are either a kid living at home or an illiterate laborer digging ditches.
     
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    What we need is a law that requires all employers to pay whatever wage is a living wage for the area the workers live. Forget min wage, for even if were adjusted up for inflation from 1968 levels, it would only be 14 bucks an hour. Now that just shows you that people today on min wage are making half of what a min wage worker made in 1968. That is criminal.

    It is time for us to force the rich out of their insatiable greed, by legislating a living wage. Where does it come from? It comes from the income of the rich. They will have to be forced to not be so greedy and to accept less of the pie than they are used to doing.

    It is way past the time to go after these greedy elites, and put them in their place. As we put them into some treatment center for sociopathy.
     
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    How many " thousands " ?. Thousands are a pittance.
    Of course this is the degree of detail or specifics we can expect from
    liberals who live to smear their opposition with fudgy facts at best.
     
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