Your complete guide to Obama’s immigration executive action

The POTUS did what was within the law for him to do as head of the executive branch.

 

How about this "legal expert"?

Oops.

Is Univision Rightwing Media? Is His Majesty Emperor Obama a member of the Rightwing Media audience?

LOLZ

Republicans don't need my permission to sue anymore than "progressives" need my permission to oppose the rule of law. Go on - hail your beloved Emperor.

 

Prove it. Show us where in the statute Congress granted His Majesty the authority to do what he did.

 

Congressional approval was not necessary for what the POTUS enacted. I was responding to you on your statement about kicking it down the road...can't you even stay on topic with a topic that you proposed?

But if you insist, here goes...

 

You might want to get your posters straight before you start hurling insults. You were responding to Toefoot, not me.

I hate to split hairs, but that's not the language in the statute.

 

Again, what foundation did he put down? You seem to have a habit of ignoring questions. What did POTUS fix with the executive action?

 

Is this the same legal scholars that said ACA was not a tax? Look Twist, the solution is not POTUS but is within Congress. That is how are constitution was written.

 

Why don't you read about it for yourself as opposed to the ubiquitous HABIT of those on the right to ignore provided info and facts and to go on and on and on over the same damn (*)(*)(*)(*). The OP laid it out very clearly so there is zero need for me to be redundant.

 

I don't want to help illegal immigrants. The Republicans don't want to help illegal immigrants. Why do YOU want to help illegal immigrants instead of helping Americans first?

Hey, I have an idea... why don't you go to Mexico and help would be illegal immigrants there?

 

Nevermind Twist, you stated that POTUS laid the foundation and in return I asked of you what that foundation was. Very simple question you seem to be having a hard time with. I also asked you what did POTUS fix?

I think I will back off for now until you gather yourself. You are all over the place.

 

What has happened with this re-allocation of resources or whatever you want to call it is both a major political move and boost for the country. It's a political move because it draws a sharp contrast between the Democratic and Republican parties in two ways - after years of begging, cajoling and finally actually passing bi-partisan legislation in the Senate that would actually accomplish something concrete and worthwhile only to see House radicals shoot it down, Dems (sorta, kinda) drew a sharp contract between them and Republicans while proving that government CAN work. The second way is to expose today's Republicans for the vindictive, do-nothing haters they are, and it's not pretty. Somewhere, I also seem to have heard that any applicant has to pay a fee ($450???). If so, that's a nice piece of change flowing to the gummint.

 

Finally realized that all you had to do was read the OP (after I pointed that out to you of course)? Feeling a bit silly that you did not figure that one out for yourself being that the thread title is "Your complete guide to Obama’s immigration executive action"? You should, so before you attempt shine a light on what you perceive as anyone else's errors, own up to yours.

 

No he does not. All Obama wants is to have something to his name - Obamacare, Immigration EO... It's always about Obama. He does not give a damn about Americans, Illegals... sorry.

 

I read the OP. I wanted your read on it, your thoughts and your reasoning. Get it? Exchanging and engaging in ideas beyond the OP? This is becoming painful with you. Luckily tonight is pub night when I can belly up to the bar and find stupid and forget about this encounter with you.

Have fun Twist.

 

Dear Serfs,

The job of the Chief Executive is to uphold and execute the laws of these United States, and defend the Constitution.
The job of Congress is to establish, mandate and regulate the laws of this country under the Constitution, allocate resources, and engage our armed forces, of which the Chief Executive is Commander of.
The job of the Judiciary is to interpret and apply the laws of these United States under the Constitution.

How does unilaterally writing laws fit the president's job description?
Why would you argue this, or ANY other, president has the authority to do so?

 

It's quite simple:

 

Dear Fellow Deep Thinker:

I believe you answered your own question - How does unilaterally writing laws fit the president's job description? Golly, it was right here:

The job of Congress is to establish, mandate and regulate the laws of this country under the Constitution, allocate resources, and engage our armed forces, of which the Chief Executive is Commander of.

See, Congress has allocated resources for the chief operating officer to do, but not enough resources to do all they want, so they wrote the laws to allow that CEO to use discretion in how he/she proceeds. Which is EXACTLY what Obama has done. He will take the resources allocated and use them to operate in the best interest of the country's interest (spend more on deporting real criminals, terrorists and those who pose a threat to national security) and near zip to the quiet people who live by the laws in their communities and contribute to those communities successes.

Well done, by the way.

 

What same line?

Once again, Obama is fundamentally transforming America. Think about it - there now will be around 5 mln newly minted legal gardeners, taco makers, burger flippers, dishwashers, legally making minimum wages. And what is the distinction of being a minimum or near minimum wage earner? Why, they get earned income tax credit and scores of other entitlements and benefits not previously available to them!!!

And yes, they will take jobs, mostly from our youngsters and retirees - contrary to popular Liberal mantra, not everyone hires illegals. And yes, they will drain our healthcare resources.

But the worst part of Obama's legacy will be the new scores of illegal aliens arriving on our shores; all they have to do is to get in and stay underground for a few years and hope the Democrats will again be in power.

Entirely predictable.

 

President Obama DIDN'T write a new LAW. . .he wrote a temporary reprieve and ENCOURAGED (again) the "do nothing" congress to pass a law! DUH!

By the way, so did Reagan, and Bush!

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2014/11...rong-about-reagans-and-bushs-executive-orders

 

First off....there is nothing real about border control under Obama's E.O. In the foundation of the 1986 IRCA was enforcement and border security. It was to be the latest high-tech monitoring and surveillance equipment. That never got done.....as no president has used their "prosecutorial discretion" to do so. NOT Bush#43, NOT Clinton, and NOT Bush#43.....and certainly not Obama. Although....it was in the bill passed and signed in 1986!!! Now.....had Bush#43 been like Obama, he'd have just signed an E.O. .....used his so called "prosecutorial discretion" that the Dems are touting today, and we would have had it. AND HEAR THIS......if what Obama has done is in fact legal based on prosecutorial discretion"......then there is absolutely NOTHING stopping a future president from enacting an E.O. that fulfills the other parts of that 1986 Congressional bill passed into law...and that was never acted on.....which was the secure border portion. I truly hope Dems understand this FACT.

Another item in their Bi-Partisan law was a "national I.D." Not to be carried around......only to be used at hiring and applying for governments. The only real way in which to prove legality and right to work here.....and it was not enforced by either Republicans OR Democrats since it was passed.

IF we are going to use E.O's now....for enforcing some of these laws under the guise of "prosecutorial discretion" then there are still quite a few inside the 1986 Immigration legislation that are still awaiting action. And I do believe the next president....hopefully a Republican one will make sure that once and for all our borders are made secure.

But I wonder.......should such a time come to pass in the near future.....how will Dems react when this "prosecutorial discretion" is something they don't want done? After all.....that part of the 1986 law is still just sitting there....waiting for some president to pull out their pen!!!!

 

This law has nothing to do with the armed forces. I think you should re-read my post.

A retrieve? As in... a restoration of some law?

Anything about the timing of this "retrieve" as it pertains to a "do nothing" congress strike you as interesting?

The president wrote a new law. We have immigration laws. He wrote new ones. Can't do that. His job is to execute existing law, not write new ones. This, is the point. I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) if you think it is a good idea to effect action from the legislative branch, it is not his station. He is not king.

 

One in which he will not pass, however, UNLESS it is exactly as he would have written it. Nothing Bi-partisan about this guy....at all.
But don't worry....they'll do it. They just now got the Majority and don't take over until January. They WILL present a Comprehensive Immigration Bill....and it will be up to the president to sign it. IF he, in fact, is prepared to stand by his word.

 

They already have a bill, so why wait? I'll tell you why...it is against the law of averages and that in and of itself is bizarre, but EVERYTHING the POTUS has done they have been against. The Republicans do not know how to govern, only how to obstruct. If not for Obama, nothing of any consequence will get done over the next two years. Sorry, but law suits, hearings and grandstanding for the 100 plus and still counting, 2016 GOP presidential hopefuls, does not count as getting anything done for the American people.

 

Just a lot of sour butts from the Right side! They tried to make President Obama fail on this. . .and they failed! Now they are eating sour grapes and their butts hurt!

So silly. . .looks like high school kids with arrogance problems!

I applaud President Obama's move, and especially his clear message that, If Congress passes a law that is a REAL immigration fix, he will happy to see it super seed his EO. . . .But obviously, it has to work for ALL sides, not just the feed the stupidity of the tea party and those who have forgotten that, they too, come from Immigrant background!