Your complete guide to Obama’s immigration executive action

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  1. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Yes.

    Possibly so. It's not clear to me.

    Not at all true and, until Obama, EOs were not intended to supersede the legally enacted law of the land.
     
  2. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    And all those bills passed by the House have been sitting on Harry Reid's desk......please stop pretending Obama is "doing something" while congress does nothing. Harry Reid has protected Obama from having to do anything but that will soon be over. Obama knows this and has decided to push thru his agenda despite the will of the people.
     
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    Stop pretending that you know what you are babbling about...

     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you treating me like a Prom date.........Fancy words tonight full of love and promises but gone tomorrow? No......you need to work for it under a dashboard light. Ready?

     
  5. Liquid Reigns

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    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-bill-from-ho/

    Why do you think Obama wants an up or down vote on the Senate bill from the House when the House doesn't even have the bill from the Senate yet? (Its all politics) The Dems are trying to do to Immigration Reform what they did with the Health Care bill, you have to pass it to know whats in it. :roll:
     
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    You really need to re-take a grade school US Government class because you were clearly had your head in ------------------- the clouds the first time.

    So far all you have posted on this is but a filament of your feeble mind and not stated anywhere in the Constitution. The s#!t for brains prez is not protecting a damn thing except his voting base and the mind numbed idiots of the left buy into this crap.

    So the next conservative prez says "No where in the constitution is abortion mentioned therefore any Dr performing such will be arrested for murder and if congress doesn't like it send me a bill saying otherwise" you would go apes#!t and rightfully so. Because this is the dangerous path that Ostupid just trod down and the insane left is following like rats to the pied piper.
     
  7. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    So quoting some obscure blog proves you right? Do you know the difference between fact and opinion and a hole in the ground?

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    So quoting some obscure blog proves you right? Do you know the difference between fact and opinion and a hole in the ground?
     
  8. ballantine

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    ROFL! Gotta love the simple minded liberals. No child, the Supreme Idiots won't help you either. Has it ever occurred to you that someday you might actually have to do the job yourself? You know, roll up your sleeves and get to work, kinda thing?
     
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    There is no immigration crisis. There is only a law enforcement crisis.

    Therefore there is no need for "immigration reform". (There is a need for law enforcement reform).

    Why does Obama keep insisting he wants "immigration reform" when there's no need for it? Congress has told him repeatedly: "there's no need", so why does he insist on proceeding unilaterally to fulfill an imaginary need?
     
  10. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In any case, it is better than your constant "oversight" since you NEVER provide sources of your "propaganda!"
     
  11. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong again! Both Reagan and Bush decided to supersede the immigration passed by Congress. . .by signing executive orders to INCLUDE children and spouses in the law that had already passed. . .therefore, probably multiplying by 3 or 4 the number of immigrants affected by the law.

    Get your story straight! I will be posting a link in case you want to check on this!
     
  12. Liquid Reigns

    Liquid Reigns Banned

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    How about citing those EO numbers? (NOTE: you wont find them because they don't exist.):roflol:
     
  13. doombug

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    Wrong, I always provide CREDIBLE sources with my posts.
     
  14. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    DUH. . .Obviously, if Congress had approved an immigration amnesty law ONLY for the principals, and NOT for their dependents (spouses and children). . .it is OBVIOUS that when Reagan signed the EO that broadened that new immigration law to include spouses and children. . .more people became affected by that bill!

    I don't think I'll spend my time researching EXACTLY how many more were. . .but If you consider that Hispanics have generally more children than other cultures, and that they do not divorce as often as other culture. . .it would take an imbecile to believe that Reagan's EO didn't multiply the group of people affected!

    If YOU want to research this and prove me wrong. . .go for it!

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  15. Liquid Reigns

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    Why do I need to research anything to prove you wrong, you cant even get the simple fact that Reagan and Bush had no EO's that did what you claim. If you cant get the basic language correct, what makes me believe that you are correct on anything else you espouse based on your ideological bias?
     
  16. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    OBVIOUSLY if you had OBVIOUS sources to back up your claims you would OBVIOUSLY post them but since you OBVIOUSLY didn't post them then you are OBVIOUSLY wrong.

    What Obama is doing is not an executive order.
     
  17. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong! THEY BOTH signed EO's for immigration. . .and Bush's EO di EXACTLY what I stated, expend the immigration law to spouses and children!

     
  18. Battle3

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    You cannot step past the legalities of this issue. Whether the order strikes a compromise or implements what Boehner promised and did not deliver is irrelevant.

    The major issue is that this "trial balloon", if successful, nullifies Congress and allows the President to create legislation. If this expansion of Executive power is accepted, then obama will proceed with additional actions which go far beyond this order.

    Examining the details of the order is a distraction and a failure to address the true issue.
     
  19. Sadanie

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    Yes it is. . .and I have provided links. . .I just do not believe you are honest enough (or smart enough) to read the whole thing, so go play tag with taxis!
     
  20. Liquid Reigns

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    Those are Executive Actions, nothing was signed or registered in the National register, NOT Executive Orders which are signed and registered in the National register. Do you even comprehend the difference between the 2? What Obama just did was by Executive Action, not by Executive Order http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/11/20/365467914/so-just-what-is-an-executive-action-anyway :roll: Your own link doesn't even call them Executive Orders. :roflol:
     
  21. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    The "secure the border" blab is just racist talk to keep people from south of the border out of the country. People from 38 countries around the world can waltz into the US anytime they want to and stay as long as they want to without being hassled. They are supposed to leave within 90 days but no one really checks on them. Some of them have been here for years.

    Obama pulled off a major coup. Congress doesn't have the authority to write a real immigration law. Consequently all the Congress Critters will do is huff and puff and whine. In the unlikely event a Repub becomes the next President he can use the accumulated data and round the illegals up and deport them. That won't happen. Even though the illegals are supposed to be on a short lease the Repubs won't fund any new deportation courts or infrastructure for deporting the illegals when their time is up. So he castrated the Repubs. And they said that he was weak!
     
  22. Liquid Reigns

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    BS. The VWP simply waives the requirement for a non-immigrant visa, they still enter under the terms of a non-immigrant visa with a 90 day limit that can be extended for an additional 90 days provided they apply for it. If they fail to leave under the terms of the VWP they become visa overstays and begin to accrue the bar of re-entry for 3 year to permanently. :roll:
     
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    The bolded sentence above is particularly interesting...

    :wall:
     
  24. Sadanie

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    Why don't you read your own comment again, and try to make sense of your own confusion!
    You actually confirmed that both former Presidents signed executive actions, and so did this President! And, if these actions are not "legally binding", why would Obama's be illegal?
     
  25. leekohler2

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    Because most right wingers do not know the law. They never bother to read it. They never took W to task for his executive orders, why would they? They loved it when he "took the law into his own hands". What they ignored was the fact that the same thing could happen to them. Now they're complaining. Sorry, it falls on deaf ears.
     

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