Pregnant Woman, 3 Others Shot & Killed in Cleveland

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  1. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    This is a local shooting issue.....a horrible one, where a pregnant woman, her unborn son, and 3 others were shot and killed. And yet there is no presidential involvement.....injecting himself into THIS local crime issue; horrible as it is!! Unlike what was done in the Michael Brown issue. I would like to ask the Democrats on here......why do you think the president does NOT inject himself into some of these horrible crimes? Especially when there are so many of them. The crime in some cities....especially the black on black....does not seem to be an issue of interest to him. Do any of you have an explanation of why that is so?? Why Ferguson...and not Cleveland? Just wondering how Obama goes about choosing which local issues he will get involved in.


    Pregnant Woman, Three Others Shot and Killed in Cleveland

    Police are working to find a gunman who shot and killed three people at a house in Cleveland before turning his gun on a 9-year-old girl and her pregnant mother when they stumbled on the murder scene, police said Saturday. Authorities say the baby the woman was carrying also died.

    The tragic incident happened around 7:30 p.m. Friday after a 41-year-old woman — accompanied by her 9-year-old daughter and 2-year-old son — drove up to a house on the city's east side. The woman sent the little girl inside the house to fetch clothing. That's when the girl came upon a horrific murder scene.

    Authorities said the girl discovered "one or some" of the shooting victims — a 60-year-old man, a 19-year-old man, and a 17-year-old girl. "At that time, a male armed with a handgun ran toward the 9-year-old and fired a shot, grazing the girl in the chest," police said in a statement Saturday.

    The unidentified gunman, whom the girl described as wearing a mask, then rushed outside, where he shot and killed the girl's mother. The toddler, who was in the back seat of the car, was not injured.

    "Only an animal would do something like this to another human being," Cleveland Police Chief Calvin Williams told the Northeast Ohio Media Group.

    Police said 41-year-old Sherita Johnson was 28 weeks pregnant. The identities of the three other people killed in the shooting were not released. The 9-year-old girl is expected to survive. The motive for the murders is being investigated."

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  2. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Want to tell me again why we shouldnt have the death penality for animals that would kill like this?
     
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    Senseless , savage crime in America is rampant.. the news from Atlanta EVERY day is enough to make you weep.
     
  4. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    The shooter had just killed three people so why wouldn't he shoot a couple more who could be witnesses against him? It sounds like he's the woman's husband or boyfriend who was looking for the pregnant woman and the three victims were her relatives who wouldn't tell him where she was. So he plugged them. Happens all the time. Some guys take their marriage vows seriously.
     
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    How could you be so callous? What makes Mike Brown more important than these people?
     
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    Seriously? Like bloody ownership??
     
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    The people who were shot in Cleveland were victims of routine domestic violence. The guy got ticked off that his woman ran out on him and that he couldn't see her and his kids. So he shot up the place. Happens all the time.

    The Mike Brown case is different because the shooting is seen as a case of racial oppression. Brown was no saint and it would play better if he had been a choir boy. But for some reason the locals made a collective decision that that straw was enough to break the camel's back and they took to the streets. The interesting thing is that other guys have been killed by cops since then, even in the St. Louis area, and people ignore it. It's doubtful that anyone ever thought that the outrage would have lasted as long as it has. But the Brown case is about the effort to change the relationship between the system's thugs and the street thugs. So expect blood to flow until it happens.
     
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    You take a vow to forsake all others and to love and honor each other until death do you part. Some people take that seriously and won't hesitate to kill the one who breaks it.
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    AND white cop gets killed all the time by black criminals too. And I don't see Obama getting personally involved in that one either.
     
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    You have answered your own question - when there are so many

    Honestly America should do something about it's horrendous gun violence

    Banning the NRA might be a good start
     
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    Hmm..., are those crimes black on black related?
     
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    He doesn't need to get involve because there is no question the suspects will be arrested if found and charged to the fullest extent of the law. You really needed that explained?
     
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    Should we also do something about knives, axes, and clubs?
     
  14. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Here's an interesting historical fact: No one had ever been killed until guns were invented.
     
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    If you have the same rate of violence then yes it should be addressed
     
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    Democrats don't give a crap about black people killing other black people. Black lives are only valuable to them when they are taken by white people. Because all of those crocodile tears they shed for Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown are nothing but a dishonest sham designed to mask their overt contempt for caucasians. The racism here is two fold; the outright hate for white people and the total lack of genuine concern for black people (and willingness to use them as props in their in their racist anti-white campaigns).
     
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    So white people hate white people and run racist anti-white campaigns but they also hate black people as well. So what's the purpose of the racist anti-white campaigns that the whites run?
     
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    "Banning" the NRA would not stop the violence... how did you ever think that?

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    Interesting are you suggesting this man killed them in self defense?
     
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    Link? Not being skeptical(or at least not partisanly so), but my skepticism on all things Human Nature asks about the cannon's, the arrow's, etc.
     
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    How about banning criminal gangs, how about getting real on drugs and locking up dealers and illegal drug makers forever, how about executing murders publicly and quickly, how about making it safe for honest folks to be able to sleep with their windows open and doors unlocked at night, how about being able to have the wife be able to drive alone at night and NOT be worried until she gets home safely? Its NOT the NRA that's the issue its you liberal asshats who coddle the criminal class and make the rest of the people unsafe that is the issue..
     
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    the majority of murders are committed by someone who is of the same race as the victim

    Did you know that 90% of blacks are murdered by blacks, and 83% of whites are murdered by whites?

    Did you know that there are 14.82 murders per 100K by blacks versus 2.17 per 100K for whites?

    Per capita there are 7x more murders committed by blacks than whites.

    I didn’t make this up. It comes directly from the FBI. All I did was dig around and cut and paste the numbers. See for yourself if you doubt

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010
     
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    Why doesn't the President comment on every crime committed in the US everyday? Gee, try really hard to figure that out.....it would take a few hours every day.

    He commented on Ferguson because , DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, there was large scale rioting and big demonstrations......want attention for YOUR pet crime ? , then riot or hold protests or moon TV cameras....and quit whining over perceived slights....
     
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    So Fergeruson is all about a "pet crime"?
     
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    :) Couldn't handle the facts or the complete post as usual....

    I posted, Originally Posted by FoxHastings View Post

    Why doesn't the President comment on every crime committed in the US everyday? Gee, try really hard to figure that out.....it would take a few hours every day.

    He commented on Ferguson because , DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, there was large scale rioting and big demonstrations......want attention for YOUR pet crime ? , then riot or hold protests or moon TV cameras....and quit whining over perceived slights...."""


    Yes, YOUR pet crime......seems you have adopted it.... I never posted Ferguson is all about a pet crime.......
     
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    Victim in Fairmount Park attack dies



    By Suzanne Perez Tobias -
    The Wichita Eagle
    11/22/2014 3:40 PM

    A woman who was sexually assaulted and burned in Fairmount Park last week has died, Wichita police Lt. James Espinoza said.

    Prosecutors on Friday charged Cornell A. McNeal with attempted capital murder, rape and two counts of arson in that attack.

    McNeal is accused of raping, beating and setting on fire a 36-year-old woman who was walking in Fairmount Park, south of Wichita State University’s main campus, about 11 p.m. Nov. 14. He was booked into jail early Thursday on suspicion of rape and attempted first-degree murder after evidence collected by forensic nurses at Via Christi Hospital St. Francis linked him to the crime, according to police.

    The woman died at 9:38 a.m. Saturday at St. Francis, Espinoza said. Charges against McNeal will be amended to include murder, he said.

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    Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article4064591.html#storylink=cpy

    Hmm..., will Obama claim that this was like killing a daughter? I think not. He'll probably send his DOJ to represent the killer.
     

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