99% of science technology is the result of white and East Asian men.

Fact or fiction ?

Not women, not blacks or other races, not who progressives wish were responsible.

Can't it be argued that most of the science and technology we know and have is the result of men from Europe and in the modern era, also men from Japan, China, and India ?

Is it racist and sexist to state historically justifiable claims ?

 

According to the average progressive, yes.

 

There is no possible way to track this statistic so you can't answer your question. There were some mathematical geniuses in the Persian area that invented certain equations so does that mean that every invention after that, based on their equation, is actually due to them?

The cotton gin, originally invented by a black man, led to many other inventions directly off his work, in fact some automation techniques as well as assembly line work are directly attributed to the Cotton gin so do blacks get credit for all of that?

 

I will concede Persians belong on that list.

 

Every race belongs on that list.

Lewis Latimer, a black man who invented that little thing in the light bulb called a carbon filament, he worked side by side with Bell and Edison and basically had as much, if not more direct contributions to electrifying the world.

 

Muslims invented algebra.

 

Africa was fully colonized and practically every black human was oppressed by the time of the Age of Enlightenment.

 

It's not racist until the inevitable pseudoscience claims about intelligence and race come in.

 

What's your point exactly?

 

Unless you can provide some verifiable statistics to back your claim, we just have to assume that it's full of (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

They went from the stone age directly into slavery then into colonial oppression. They skipped the Age of Enlightenment when radical innovations were an everyday occurrence.

 

Claiming that men are entirely responsible for technology is like feminists claiming that men are entirely responsible for war. Nothing in history happens in a vacuum where the genders are concerned.

 

fiction - http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/diversity-in-science-where-are-the-data/

there is a lot more diversity than what you might think although white males are the majority in western nations and regions

 

Only nowadays. Before the Age of Enlightenment, the Arabs ruled the world.

 

the world is very small, in your eyes

 

Now the question is when are minorities and women going to do their fair share? Enough bellyaching and sitting around....let's get to it!

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Not all of them.

 

Same with Jewish vs. Arab Nobel Prize winners (link):

[SIZE=+2] Comparison of Arab and Jewish Nobel Prize Winners [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1] Arab/Islamic Nobel Prize Winners [/SIZE]
From a pool of 1.4 BILLION Muslims which are 20% of the world's population (2 out of every 10 people) Literature
1988 - Najib Mahfooz
Peace
1978 - Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yasser Arafat *
2003 - Shirin Ebadi
Chemistry
1999 - Ahmed Zewail
Physics
Abdus Salam

* NOTE: Norwegian, Kaare Kristiansen, was a member of the Nobel Committee. He resigned in 1994 to protest the awarding of a Nobel "Peace Prize" to Yasser Arafat, whom he correctly labeled a "terrorist."

[SIZE=+1] Jewish Nobel Prize Winners [/SIZE]
From a pool of 12 million Jews which are 0.2% of the World's Population (2 out of every 1,000 people) Literature
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer
2002 - Imre Kertesz
World Peace
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
1995 - Joseph Rotblat
Chemistry
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1972 - William Howard Stein
1972 - C.B. Anfinsen
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Ronald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Herbert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1989 - Sidney Altman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1998 - Walter Kohn
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
2004 - Irwin Rose
2004 - Avram Hershko
2004 - Aaron Ciechanover
Economics
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1973 - Wassily Leontief
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Rober Fogel
1994 - John Harsanyi
1994 - Reinhard Selten
1997 - Robert Merton
1997 - Myron Scholes
2001 - George Akerlof
2001 - Joseph Stiglitz
2002 - Daniel Kahneman
2005 - Robert (Israel) Aumann
Medicine
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - David Baltimore
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Rosalyn Sussman Yalow
1977 - Andrew V. Schally
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1994 - Martin Rodbell
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
1997 - Stanley B. Prusiner
1998 - Robert F. Furchgott
2000 - Eric R. Kandel
2002 - Sydney Brenner
2002 - Robert H. Horvitz
Physics
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1945 - Wolfgang Pauli
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1958 - Il'ja Mikhailovich
1958 - Igor Yevgenyevich
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1963 - Eugene P. Wigner
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1967 - Hans Albrecht Bethe
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - Leon N. Cooper
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Georges Charpak
1995 - Martin Perl
1995 - Frederick Reines
1996 - David M. Lee
1996 - Douglas D. Osheroff
1997 - Claude Cohen-Tannoudji
2000 - Zhores I. Alferov
2003 - Vitaly Ginsburg
2003 - Alexei Abrikosov

 

Why do you say that? It may just be that you know history solely through a Western perspective.

 

well, since women and the other races were EXCLUDED from education, getting patents, etc, it's sort of hard for them to have been part of this segment of history, dude. I'm a white guy, and we ARE superior, in many ways, but hey, facts are facts.

 

Arabs never ruled North America, South America, Europe, East Asia.

hence "the world", as you speak of it, must be very small.

 

Which is why that particular award has been rendered meaningless long before President Obama received his.

 

The Arabs were in control of the Middle East, which connects East to West, thus being a pivotal trading point and production for culture and science.

Islamic Spain alone was a shining example of the cultural and scientific superiority of Islamic rule. Spain at the time was the most populous nation on Earth.The Carboda Library contained more books than all the libraries in Europe put together.

We invented coffee, soap, and modern surgery. Most of the stars in the sky have Arabic names.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html


This is not to mention the political an philosophical writings that many scholars contributed, some of which have been borrowed by Enlightenment thinkers.

Unlike the West, the Arabs didn't conquer and take over their nations by force, merely to subdue and destroy them. Let's hope Europe learned from WWII. I doubt it.

 

Nope. It would only be racist if you tried to attribute anything to a race, based on that meaningless observation. You would also be safe to point out that most of the technology in the last 30 years is also the result of folks who don't like anchovies, have excess earwax, and wear the color red.




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I assume that you are excluding all the discoveries in ancient times like pumps, irrigation, mathematics, medicine, engineering etc which appeared first in the Middle East at the dawn of civilization.

Every time period has its own distribution of "ethnic technological advancement" for lack of a better term. Currently its Europeans and then Asians but it wasn't always so. It used to be Asians and Middle Easterners and in the early days it was South Americans and Middle Easterners.

 

the statement is wrong not for political reasons, it is wrong because it is inaccurate, much of our technology advancements come from western asia/the middle east

it is true however that most of out scientific advancements originated in the northern hemisphere, but this is largely due to the fact that 88% of the world's population lives in the northern hemisphere.

Consider this, the alphabet was invented by the Phoenicians, and our numeral system was invented by the Indians. Without these we wouldn't have been able to make a great number of our scientific advancements