Palestinian terrorism in Tel-Aviv ( 20 Israeli citizens are wounded )

Correct. Which is why to a large extent the epithet 'ethnic cleansing' is not an appropriate one. In any case history is history and it's the Palestinian Arabs who, in practice, are the ones being ethnically cleansed today.

 

its only ethnic cleansing if the authorities issue official evacuation orders, suspend citizenship, or actually force people out.

this happened in Algeria and I think one other state.

but most Jews were not forced to leave.

 

Indeed. The notion that the Jews in Israel are being ethnically cleansed today is nonsense.

 

Nooooooooo!!! Your debating is circuitous, dishonest and unreasonable...


a) There is no such a thing as <Palestinians> The Jews were given that part of Syria through a Mandate and called it <Israel> because of their connection to that <Land of their forefathers,> and where the Fathers and Mothers of the Jewish people were buried there from the time of the Bible and the places of their Burial monuments is still visited.!!!

b) The nomenclature Palestinian <fake as it is> was coined by Arafat in 1964.

c) We have not taken land that belongs to other people, Just the opposite!!!!!!!!!!!

d) To illustrate the above watch this clip in its entirety.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534&v=Nc8EjQEpZ3s#t=622

 

Israel has stolen thousands of dumans of land in the West Bank, that belonged to Arabs.

they also illegally annexed East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights.

 

Please explain why old maps have the words Palestine on them, HBendor?

 

Most arab states resorted to government-supported anti-Jewish violence, pogroms, riots, antisemitism, persecutions and threats, some actually expelled their jewish population forcefully.

 

Pogroms and antisemitism have been a feature of 20th century history and Zionists have supported it.

 

unless someone is actually FORCED by the govt. to leave, its not ethnic cleansing.

 

Good, that applies to arabs who left Israel, the pseudo-refugees right?

 

Comparing South Africa to Israel makes this statement unworthy of a response...

Either you do not know history which started quite a few thousand years ago...
And, to equate it to a violent theft of South Africa by the Boers is abominable...

Then, if you equate the Boers deed, their murderous pilfering, to the rightful inheritance of the Jewish people, then, there is nothing here to argue, for this is an unsupportable rewriting of history!

 

#1. Israel had a plan to exile most if not all Arabs from Israel. Its detailed and called Plan Dalet.

#2. Israel forced out hundreds of thousands of Arabs in 1948 and 1950.

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its a simple fact that Israel has STOLEN lots of private land in the West Bank.

 

I am sure you meant "a feature of the last 20 centuries", didn't you?

Right, nothing like blaming the victim. Never mind the fact that the entire concept of zionism (the return of the jews to their land) grew out of never ending cycle of antisemitism, pogroms, persecutions, holocausts, inquisitions, murders, expulsions (in no particular order)

 

sorry bro, but Neo-Zionism FEEDS on anti-Semitism.

 

Nonsense my dear, 6000 Hamas unsophisticated missiles on Israel is nothing but a pinprick for you, but sophisticated Israeli retaliatory action is murder and mayhem... Please go and find a trusty friend to confide with.

 

LOL, Ron, buddy, every day you get caught in hypocrisy and double standard... Why are you doing it to yourself? Anyway, you won't be able to come up with a single incident of government FORCED expulsion or deportation of Arabs from Israel which according to you correctly means that there never was any ethnic cleansing. I on the other hand can give you a bunch of examples of the expulsion of Jewish citizens from their arab countries of birth.

 

No I meant what I wrote. And I'm not blaming the victim since Judaism and Zionism are not synonymous. The history of Zionists allying themselves with Nazi's and antisemites is well documented as I have shown.

 

Enumerate the abuses Alexa... I have read most of Borat's retorts and found none...

Maybe you are translating from Arabic? And perhaps the two languages do not mesh?

 

Nonsense, jews were the victims of antisemitism, all jews, zionist jews and antizionist jews, religious jews and secular ones. Britain allied itself with the Nazis, so did the US, so did Russia, dozens of other European countries, dozens of countries in the Americas, Asia, the Arab world. That you come up with excuses for antisemitism and absurd lies is disgusting.

 

Post #71:

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=392924&page=8&p=1064677481#post1064677481

References on request.

 

LOL, now you are linking to yourself, not less. That's convincing LOL

And blaming jews for trying to negotiate the interests of the Jews in Germany while the entire world still had diplomatic relations with Germany, while the entire world participated in Berlin Olympics and continued business and diplomacy as usual with Germany is disgusting and despicable of you. You just must single out the Jew for a double standard.

 

Sucking up to terrorists is far more disturbing, and vastly closer to truth than is your pretend offence.

 

Again, Zionism/Zionists and Judaism/Jews are not synonymous so the entire premise of your line of argumentation is flawed. Like I said, I'll provide references to what I wrote if you so desire.

 

As Peter Ustinov so eloquently put it, "war is the terrorism of the rich and powerful and terrorism is the war of the poor and powerless."

So which "terrorists" are you referring to?

 

Like I said, the entire world was doing business and diplomacy as usual with Hitler, the entire world took part in the Berlin Olympics, the entire world was sending Hitler polite, nice, proper diplomatic and personal letters, congratulations, busines propositions... Everyone inside Germany was already intimidated, terrified and silenced, the persecution of Jews was at full swing....but you must take an issue with Jews (zionists) of all people for trying to negotiate the status of German Jews with Hitler and improve their conditions. Disgusting and disturbing, trout, what a disgrace.