Palestinian terrorism in Tel-Aviv ( 20 Israeli citizens are wounded )

Israel withdrew to a line it wanted not to a line Hizbi's wanted, terror was the reason for that occupation and nearly 20 years after Hizbi's were created we understood we can kick their asses with or without that line, its once again an Israeli stupidity - not an Arab brilliance. yet another development in the last years, the Arabs dont need us to hate each other or kill each other.

 

Nonsense, Israel was under constant attacks before it occupied any territory, before it even declared independence. Full withdrawal from Lebanon let to intensification and drastic increase of terror, bombing the sh$t out of Hezbollah led to a decade of peace and quiet on Israel's northern border.

Put away your utopian pipe so that we could welcome you to the real world.

 

The pole stuck in the ground and does not want to budge...

This is amazing. Even more amazing is that this hasn't been published long before now.

CHURCHILL ON ISLAM Unbelievable, but the speech below was written in 1899.

(Check Wikipedia - The River War). The attached short speech from Winston Churchill, was delivered

by him in 1899 when he was a young soldier and journalist. It probably sets out the current views of many,

but expresses in the wonderful Churchillian turn of phrase and use of the English language,

of which he was a past master. Sir Winston Churchill was, without doubt, one of the greatest men of the late

19th and 20th centuries. He was a brave young soldier, a brilliant journalist, an extraordinary politician and

statesman, a great war leader and British Prime Minister, to whom the Western world must be forever in his debt.

He was a prophet in his own time. He died on 24th January 1965, at the grand old age of 90 and,

after a lifetime of service to his country, was accorded a State funeral. HERE IS THE SPEECH:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy,

which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture,

sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the

Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement,

the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to

some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction

of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Muslims may

show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant

and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step;

and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had

vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

Sir Winston Churchill; (Source: The River War, first edition, Vol II, pages 248-250 London).

Churchill saw it coming.

 

I am sure most terrorists are from so called Palestine. Many of them are in complete denial believing the hard dope that they are a real people. That is depressing enough, worse are those that know the history of an ARAB Palestine is a lie and designed for an agenda. These 'designers' use terrorism, propaganda the UN in a chilling end game of three lie Monty. The trouble is the world sans the USA/Israel play this house game, and any gambler knows the house always wins. The designers and their faux nation will lose (everything) eventually.

reva

 

Actually some of the settlers are quite violent and destroy livelihood and property of the Palestinians... and its apparent there is little to no law enforcement and only rare indictments.

 

Not really. fro example, I'm not saying that every muslim is a terrorist. So please stop generelizing!

So I'm a pig? not a humen? how lovely!!

So you will keep worsen the lifes of the Arabs that work in Israeli companies in the West Bank and make the Israeli products that you want to boycott.

 

Nonsense. Israel was in constant attack and settle mode before the occupation or declared independence.
Israel's withdrawal was not full and thus the conflict continues. It bombed Hezbollah only after a failed invasion attempt. Meanwhile Hezbollah has no problem arming and moving around - if you paid attention you'd see it has new priorities these days.

Please don't try to foist Israel propaganda on me. I'm far too long in the tooth and we'll read to fall for it. Try and answering your replies first

 

You might be surprised to know I agree with your assessment! When one has a suspect* police force etc that oversees a population that said police force does not trust** even dislikes, the chance of criminal activity by the overseers is high. I do not trust most authority, which includes the powerful authority the Israelis wield. I dont trust most police in the USA for that matter. Notice I said 'distrust' not 'respect' or 'like' etc. There aren't many practical options to fix the distrust that is common on either side of an powerful authority vs suspected minority. Again this is especially true in the middle east where old hatreds are like old sore festering wounds that are opened by a thousand different ways. I don't know the answer to most of the secular questions. My world/realm is the spiritual and supernatural where everything, conflicts etc are black and right or wrong. I do know why these things are happening and I do know how to cure the violence, but that is a long way off from actually doing what it takes to own peace, and for peace to prevail in the ME.

* I mentioned the Israelis police force is suspect. I suppose it is by the Pals, in fact I do not know much about secular Israel and certainly am clueless to the exact figure (percentage) of claimed wrong doing etc.

** The (above) being said of course the Israeli authorities have a right not to trust many of the Palestinians, HAMAS, and others that have admittedly been involved in terrorists actions against Israel.

reva

 

Learn the difference between 'you're' ('your are' abbreviated) and 'your' (possessive) and you might not feel so insulted.

 

Peace and a guarantee of Israel's security has been available since 2002...

 

And some of his views on Jews: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/world/europe/11iht-winston.4873300.html?_r=1&

"For it may be that, unwittingly, they are inviting persecution-that they have been partly responsible for the antagonism from which they suffer". Winston Spencer Churchill.

 

I know the difference!
If you didnt mean that, then who are those "zionist "settler" pigs"?

 

The bastards who steal land, throw Arabs out of their homes for Zionists to occupy, beat up old men and women and threaten children. Those pigs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFvMZTnr37s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mceqEd4heYA

 

the ends justify the means.

 

You should read more, and read it from a book which is far more reliable than the internet where anyone can fabricate anything dress it up to look positively authentic. Read the facts about the real (non-existent) history of 'Arab' Palestine. The covert architects of the new Palestine, at least the natural* non-satanic ones are subhuman vestiges of the PLO, and are following standard terrorist tactics against innocents to achieve their goals.

Or, if the above is not it, what source do you use to validate your claims against Borat's facts ?

reva

 

You want a taste of Zionist terrorism? Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sergeants_affair

But of course torture, murder and booby-trapping bodies pales into insignificance before your adoration of that grubby pariah state. "Subhuman vestiges..."? You're no Christian that I recognise; you haven't got a clue about what Christianity is all about, frankly.

 

Israel was also non-existent as was Germany.. but Palestinians lived in Palestine for 2000 years, farmed the land, planted the olive trees and kept up the Roman terraces and irrigation systems..

 

Do you have anything other that (lol) U tube to validate your claims? At least if Israeli authorities violate the law by harming Palestinian citizens etc there is legal recourse the Pals can pursue. But if an HAMAS terrorist or a Palestinian terrorist intentionally murders masses of innocents, the perps are not charged with a crime, there is no rule of law among thugs. Oh they do get a hug and get to dance in the street to celebrate the mass murders. Anyone that can not see the differences is completely INSANE or are cowardly sadists who enjoy murdering everyone from school girls and infants to anyone as long as they are too weak and/or helpless to defend themselves.


reva

 

He doesn't care; he purports to be a Christian enamoured with Rapture nonsense, at which point reality and pragmatism get flushed down the porcelain trumpet.

 

Do you know that this group of settlers is not all of the settlers, right? The people that are part of this group come in and out of jail. They even did things against IDF soldiers.
I'm against that group of settlers as well, by the way.

So are you in favor of worsen the lives of the Arabs? because that is what you are doing by boycotting Israeli procucts from the West Bank.

 

Israel cannot manage law enforcement or indictments in the West Bank.. They don't want to.

 

If you think any of that is fabricated then you have a real problem. Take the religious blinders off for a moment and see reality. These are your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing heroes: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7mzah_israeli-terrorist-settler-shooting_news

 

We have already been over that a zillion times. The Palestinian history you reference has been distorted just for you by a superb propaganda campaign. The propaganda was aimed right at those like you that so want to believe in an legitimate (Arab or non-Jewish Palestine). I do not think you are malicious in your beliefs. However the truth is that by fabricating the histories of Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims the authors try to erase the Jewish truth. Modern anti Israel Palestinian academics lie by say Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims all populated the Land called Israel before and during Biblical times. These fabrications are all impossible, because the name 'Palestine' was used as a replacement for the Land of Judea/Israel which was coined by Rome only in the year 136AD. What is the problem? Islam was established only in 610 C.E., and Arabs first arrived in Israel with the Muslim invasion in 637 C.E. I could go on but it gets old eh?

reva

 

Wrong.. The Greek historian Herodotus called it Syria-Palestine in 500 BC because Palestine was a province of Syria.. Israel was for most of its history a vassal state to Egypt, Syria, Persia, Rome, Greece etc.... and they paid tribute.

 

I have no problem I do not do vids because they are, easy to fake, (the real facts) unreliable in other ways and far too difficult to verify. I will check out your propgand...er link tho'. Lastly my hero is Jesus and a few academics etc. As I have said since I began posting I do not support criminal acts by Israel or anyone. However the disconnect occurs because your hero's have no crimes because they have no rule of law, thus three thousand innocents died at their hands as well as uncountable other innocents murdered tortured raped in other non ending crimes against humanity. I fear living in the UK you will soon see what rIslam is all about.

reva