English speakers in uniform, in Ukraine, on camera

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    [video=youtube;GDlX5SSAO0M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDlX5SSAO0M[/video]

    I know, I know. It's RT, so despite what we clearly see and hear, it can't be true. :bored:
     
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    After paying particular attention to his accent and vernacular, I have concluded
    He is not a Brit nor an O.Z. nor a :flagcanada:
    He is :flagus: :salute:


    And who is paying his Soldier of Fortune or Graystone bill?
    Yup! "Us"!


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    Open the American corridor
     
  3. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh yeah, totally sounds American. Well, it's not a secret that American military was going to be there anyway. We know that according to the lying, war-mongering US regime, they're there to advise and train the Ukrainian forces.

    I wonder what they think they're going to accomplish? Do they expect to defeat the population of the Donbass and restore Ukrainian rule where it's not wanted? Not only is it unlikely to happen, but it's wrong to impose rule on people who do not want it. Once again America is on the wrong side of someone else's conflict. FFS.
     
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    Well where else can we expect Muscovite trolls to get their fascist propaganda outside of the Russian Ministry of Propaganda?
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you're anything, you're consistent.
     
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    Because you are such an expert on the subject that you can conclude that this man is an American soldier. Wow. Lol. Just wow.

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    I mean just look at the gear he's using. Do you really think our special forces would be caught dead wearing an lbe vest that pathetic?
     
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    I am American born and YOU know how I feel about Canadians.

    Ararmer1919, YOU listen to the soldier's English and choice of words. American? I do believe he is. You?
    And I have listened to his short phrases several times to Rule Out South African too.

    If this is an American killing Ukrainians more easily than a local Kiev loyal Ukrainian, I do hope he is fragged!
    Yes I do. Sad but true. He is a killer for hire without conscience.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=393092&page=10&p=1064678601#post1064678601
    I just found this on another thread
    I'd sill like to know how many years he spent in America, learning American.
    Or is the ID confused. They are two, not one in the same



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    I have news for you, the truth is not propaganda. Are you trying to tell me that he is not speaking English?

    That is what's so nice thing about RT, instead of feeding us spins and lies, and giving us their own made up conclusions like the corporate media does, they just show us the videos so we can decide for ourselves.
     
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    Seriously? It's anything but clear... We can't see the face, we can't see the lips, we don't have any idea if the person in the video is actually the one who is talking. He conveniently says 3 short words only (and it's not an American accent), he manages to fight as part of the Ukrainian army but has not learned a single word in Russian or Ukrainian, he is involved in a covert mission but he is dumb enough to reply in English to a Russian reporter with a recorder in her hands and he does not stop to take away and break that recorder.....Oh and the video is made and broadcast by RT so this is undoubtedly a proof that America has just invaded Russia.

    Duh.
     
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    Aren't jumping too conclusions by claiming this Guy is American military?

    There are thousands of neo-nazis that came from all over the world too fight alongside the Kiev junta

    A CIA agent or even black ops agent wouldn't be stupid enough too speak english on camera, especially to someone who wouldn't understand him
     
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    You can not possibly tell that he is American. I'm not going to say where he is from, because there's no possible way of knowing. There are far to many variables to consider so you kremlin trolls jumping on a few words and declaring it proof of US military actions in Ukraine is not only completely unreasonable but also down right idiotic. I do not really put much into how he speaks, as I have said it's impossible to pinpoint a location off of that. I look at what he is wearing and as I stated a US spec ops soldier or even a mercenary from a major corporation like Academia wouldn't e caught dead wearing an lbe from the 90s. When you can answer why you think this CIA/Secret service/green beret/mercenary/ whatever the hell else's you muscovites are calling him is wearing a piece of crap, 20 year old hand me down lbe, then we can talk.

    And now your linking to another kremlin troll who says he even knows the guys name! Lol. Howd he come by that information, eh?
     
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    EXACTLY! I said this same thing on another thread were the kremlin troll was saying this guy was clearly special forces. If he is special forces then he wouldn't have been that stupid enough to clearly give himself away like that. All he had to do was shove the camera out of his face. No point whatsoever in saying "keep it out of my face". Especially to a person who spoke to him not in English. It's common sense. But these kremlin trolls will bandwagon jump on anything they can try and use to spread their ill propaganda and once they do they will cling to it like leeches no matter how completely we disprove their lies.

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    Because speaking English automatically equals American. Only Americans speak English. In fact, speaking English outside of America is illegal.
     
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    does this excuse the presence of THOUSANDS of Russian troops in Ukraine?
     
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    Hey I just saw a video of a guy dressed in military uniform speaking Russian in Ukraine. Clearly by your own standards that must mean the Russian military has invaded Ukraine.
     
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    It beggars belief that some people still try to deny the U.S involvement in Ukraine. For heaven's sake, slow learners know that U.S special forces/mercenaries/national security force operatives were involved from the very beginning.

    American General Ben Hodges hands out dirt cheap medals ($2) to wounded Ukrainian soldiers, thanking them for fighting for their country. What does it mean? It means the US openly says it is involved in the Ukrainian conflict. Let's cut that moronic narrative of U.S not being involved once and forever.
     
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    Russian ia a native language in Ukraine. Especially in eastern Ukraine. English is not that spread in the area. Besides, russian speaking militants don't close their face. The ones who do are ukrainian fascists and this gentleman, who sounds more like an american.

    BTW this guy is not a proof of american invasion. It is a proof of US being involved into war activities in Ukraine. I never denied that Russia is involved into what is happening in Ukraine as well. That is a tragedy of Ukraine. Everyone rules there except for ukrainians, who prefer to be ruled by someone else and regard their future only as a part of some other state rather than making a state of their own.

    So once again. Noone accuses americans of invasion to Ukraine. The problem is that the kievan coup is used to the favour of some part of american political elite. These interests and their contradictions with the interests of russian political elite might cause US to appear in the battlefield killing each other...
    No matter what kind of person is this american (its just a guess of mine) in the video. He might be a good christian or even a gay. But when the solution between the parties is found noone would say thanks to him. That is something we need to speak of now in order to prevent the development of third world war.
     
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    Is RT a comedy channel?? The hilarious thing about the video is the interview with the guy in DC..... lol, what a clown. RT must be really stretched for finding good 'experts' to interview.

    Heck, maybe a Ukrainian who has lived in America for many years, or a private contractor, or a military advisor there on request of the Ukrainian government. Talk about a non-story, yawn. I'm surprised the USMC hasnt deployed a expeditionary force there yet to secure the border with Russia.
     
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    The involvement of USA is a part of the foreign policy, a struggle for "word leadership" so to speak:
    http://seniorcitizenspublicsquare.com/2014/12/31/americas-neo-nazi-government-in-kiev-is-a-reality/

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    The involvement of USA is a part of the foreign policy, a struggle for "word leadership" so to speak:
    http://seniorcitizenspublicsquare.com/2014/12/31/americas-neo-nazi-government-in-kiev-is-a-reality/

    Involvement of Russia is well justified by several facts: Ukraine is a part of Russian nation historically and ethnically. Russia should be actively involved in this vital to her part of the world. USA has no business (except the two incredibly "talented" boys - sons of Kerry and Beiden) in Ukraine.
     
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    "English is not that spread in the area". BUT! It is there, so nice job defeating your own argument.

    It is proof of nothing. Absolutely, 100%, 0 proof. A random guy who says 5 words in English does not mean US special forces are slaughtering babies in "novorussia".

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    I was hoping we would sneak into their camps they had set up last summer when there was 40,000 troops running "drills" on the border and plant a nuke or something.
     
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    I remember last summer when you and your friends were all

    "oh Russia isn't involved whatsoever. There's no Russian troops in Ukraine. Russia isn't sending the terrorists weapons . These are all lies and propaganda."

    And now, precisely as I predicted then, it's all

    "oh well yes all of that was true. But it's ok because it's justified cause you see 10,000 years ago Russia actually owned that field over there so it gives us claim today to all of Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, I think you can see where this is going. Oh yeah, and ahhhhh, something about NAZIS, cause ahhhh, saying that word over and over again is our only real argument."

    You guys just can't keep your stories straight can you?
     
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    Has this been verified in any way? We hear lots of baseless claims and propaganda about this, and we know that Russians have been volunteering to join the fight there, but this does not mean that actively serving Russian military are there, especially not under orders from Moscow.

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    Not really. Ukraine has a large number of people who speak Russian as their primary language.

    English? Not so much.
     
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    That is absolutely true, with current level of technologies, even a schoolboy can overlay of any sound track on the video. But the point is that the same is applied to whatever is shown by Ukrainian TV. Recently, you gave a link to a video with a person who was supposed to be a Russian criminal. But Ukrainian army could force him to tell what they wanted to hear from him, or just as well superimpose a voice on an image. So Borat, why do you believe to everything that is produced by Ukrainian mass media and do not believe to the video or photo-facts presented by Russian mass media?
     
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    Here is my post you are referring to and I explicitly state that "it has not been proven and I will be the first to admit that"
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=392695&page=5&p=1064680611#post1064680611



    That being said, that article and the video show the face and place of birth of that russian criminal/"volunteer". If he is not who he says he is, if he is not from that town, if he had not have 3 convictions, if he was not caught stealing a car - it will be very easy to prove for his family members, friends and/or Russian authorities. Someone has to know him in Russia or Ukraine, right?

    As opposed to the OP video which has zero verifiable information.
     
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    Clearly US special forces aren't what they once were if they allowed themselves to be compromised in such a manner in broad daylight in front of TV cameras ! :lol:

    Obviously this is crap as is no doubt the recorded backdrop behind their very Russian sounding expert in .... 'Washington' (?)
     
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    Sorry, I have missed your words about that it had not been proven. But of course, noone will defend him from Russian side, or even if someone from his relatives or authorities try to defend him and say that is not true, most probably it will not be shown, he is just a small figure in a big game, and now he is a "used material" and probably already dead.
     

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