Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’

Oh well, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed that you had any intent other than trolling.

I guess I was wrong to be so optimistic.

 

Oh, come on. That's a cop out response. The concept of fairness can be applied to anything. Is life fair or unfair?

You never heard of a hypothetical situation?

 

My, you've got a Manichean view of the world. I think you might want to consider the fact that everyone doesn't share that view.

Yes, and I'm familiar with the compulsion on the part of some atheists to bash religion and the faithful at every opportunity. The amusing part is that they're cut from the same cloth as the evangelicals they constantly ridicule.

(Full disclosure: I'm an agnostic.)

 

On-topic, I'd say a good psych eval of the "God of the Bible" would come up with


bi-polar narcissistic personality disorder with homicidal tendencies.

 

Your inability to present a substantive response, much less a rebuttal, is duly noted.

 

Sounds eerily familiar...



I hope that doesn't land me on another terrorist watch-list.

 

Don't forget about the disassociative personality disorder, what with the three different personalities and all that. It's a rather extreme case when he rapes a woman who he then believes gives birth to another of his personalities.

Come to think of it, maybe the God of the Bible is simply a regular dude who's really extremely delusional?

 

Comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? He isn't blaming anything on a god he doesn't believe in... he is questioning who could believe in such a god that would produce such a world.

 

It's not a view; it's a question, but you did say that you don't think life is unfair. That would imply that you think life is fair.

Except that Fry never bashed religion or the faithful. He simply bashed God.

(Full disclosure: I'm an agnostic.)[/QUOTE]

 

He is omniscient, knows all this before it happens. And lets it happen any way? That is 'pure'? If one can't comprehend the silliness of the stories and don't believe them, they get eternal damnation and torment. That is 'pure'?

The above is according to the stories from the bible.

 

But it is a view, Joker - one that looks at life and the world in black and white terms.

Again, I think it's childish and irrational to apply the concept of "fairness" to life.

I would argue that he bashed all three, but we can agree to disagree on that.

BTW, excellent topic for discussion.

 

I'm sure there's a book or essay out there somewhere...."A Psychiatric Evaluation of Patient: Jehovah"

In the vernacular....a control freak, multiple personality disorder, egomania, homicidal psychotic, passive-aggressive, etc., etc.

 

It is an unattainable ideal when used to define human endeavor, either individually or collective.

It is difficult if not impossible to define the "perfect human", but its pretty damn easy to identify our imperfections.

 

You believe "we" can kill atheists?



I guess this is a NON-inflammatory death threat ......

 

Did the big word "extremist" confuse you?

 

I would agree if we're talking about a life that came about by coincidence. However, I think it's a rational question if we are to assume that life was created by a judgmental god requiring worship from its creation.

He never mentions a specific religion or comments at all about people who follow any specific religions.

 

Well, no I don't know your definition of an extremist atheist. There is only one kind of atheist, a person who does not believe in a god or gods.

Does being an atheist make a person an extremist?

And, if in your opinion it does, why do you advocate for killing them ?


I know extremist vegans but I don't advocate killing them because we don't agree......

 

If you cannot define perfection then how can you define imperfection?

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Do you answer questions with irrelevant questions 'in your parts?'

 

I see what you are saying now. Read all of page 5 and what I was responding to. I was referencing the war statement by freedomseeker.

As for the vegan extremist, just kill 'em and plant them in the garden. Come harvest season you will have more vegans than you know what to do with.

 

If God does exist I sure he/she/it would not be too happy about your demonization of its personage. Just because some silly humans made up a bunch of stories about God does not mean God actually did the things in the stories.

Heck, I am sure you may have had a few stories made up about you over the years that were not true.

I am sure God often looks down on the earth and exclaims "Look what I am getting blamed for now- holy c r a p " ! That is probably why God does not come around much these days. That and the stupidity in general of humans when it comes to religion.

If we look at the various stories about God(s) put forward by all different religions, how can it not recognized that each religion paints a different image of God. Why are so many humans so stupid as to not understand this simple fact and what it entails.

What is even worse is when you get a monotheistic, omnipotent, all powerful, God depicted differently in the same religion. This makes even less sense and even the dullest tool in the box should be asking hard questions.

Take Christianity for example. In the New Testament God (who has taken the form of Jesus) is portrayed as this loving, altruistic, prince of peace. This same God is portrayed the OT as some genocidal baby maniac with the most petty of human emotions who makes rules for his followers and then has his followers break those rules.

Take for example when God makes a law that states children are not to be punished for the sins of their parents and then has these same people go out and slaughter babies (because their parents did something the Israelites thought was evil like not let them pass through their land)

If God was to come down and adopt the image given him by the Bible. What would he be like ? The genocidal maniac God with petty human emotions or the loving caring God ?

I think humans need to stop pretending to know things about God that they don't.

 

Reality is our god.

Reality did create the universe.

Reality is described in the Bible as the very reason we all die.
Reality is cruel and fill of evil acts against any species which does not conform and adapt to its ways.

This is why Truth is our savior, since Truth tells us all about Reality so we can prepare to protect ourselves from it.


Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

 

You sure seem to find killing as a solution to everything. I saw nothing on page 5 that says otherwise.

"""There is only one kind of atheist, a person who does not believe in a god or gods.

Does being an atheist make a person an extremist?

And, if in your opinion it does, why do you advocate for killing them ? """

 

You being butt hurt kills me

Whats wrong? Did you take it personal? Fox, if you want someone to jump through hoops you picked the wrong person.

(*)(*)(*)(*) extreme atheist.

 

Rather easily. while perhaps not able to define the entirety of perfection in a human, imperfections are readily both identifiable and experienced in such things as behavior, attitude, appearance, intellect, emotional stability, sanity, etc.

 

Fry, who doesn't believe God exists, attacks God as a "monster" who has failed to make this life on earth
a warm comfortable dream. And he says God is "Utterly monstrous and deserves no respect whatsoever. The moment you banish him, life becomes simpler, purer, cleaner, more worth living in my opinion.”
How so, Mr. Fry?

If there is no God why would any half way bright rational human being believe God has made his life so miserable? Why not take some responsibility for the world you so detest, Mr. Fry?
Look at the people all around you for all the evil, ignorance and incivility you detest. It's not God's doing.
There is no God!

And if there is a God, his one over riding message, told over thousands of years, through all the major religions, by all the enlightened truth bearers the human race has ever offered, The Golden Rule, has been totally ignored and disregarded anyway.
So why is anyone still blaming God for the awful mess human beings have made of our world? It seems like such an ignorant childish cop out.