South Carolina Officer Is Charged With Murder of Walter Scott

Guy fights cop and runs...Cop goes nuclear and kills him.

The Cop is guilty of murder....the guy is guilty of stupidity, unfortunately the Cop is white and the idiot was black.

Welcome to more persecution complex to excuse stupidity.

 

Oh I agree 100%. The media is going to keep on until cops are disarmed and using nerf bats. It was a stupid move by the cop, but none of us can feel his frustration and red-lined adrenaline level after that guy took off running. Sadly.

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People should watch it more often.

 

Traffic "laws" and their attendant licenses are the primary pretext that police forces use to harass and extort the populace, especially poor urban communities.

Many people are economically crippled by the onerous burden that traffic laws and licenses place on them.

These regressive policies need to be scaled back and working people need to be freer to move about the country.

 

I don't think parents have veto power of their kids career choices. Otherwise strip clubs would be boarded up.

 

No but I have influence.

 

Well, we know he had been arrested in the past, and that he had a civil bench warrant for failure to pay child support. My guess is that there were no drugs in the car, or we already would have heard about it.

 

In this case, please explain the "reasonable suspicion" that the victim had committed a felony? Running away from the cops does not meet that standard.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPvTTmhyB_w
Obamas militarized police are being trained that Americans are the enemy. This is today's DHS guild to control the population.
After the liberals complained about the police being militarized the leftist politics protested for a day.
However they knew their own DHS are the ones doing so. Training them to see Americans are the bad guy.
To use extreme force. Don't hesitate to fire.
The dhs even had don't hesitate firing training for the police.
Welcome to the police state.

 

What I see is that you can try to disarm a policeman, and if you fail, run away quick, even though he did catch you the first time.

Never, ever stop trying to run.
Even if they catch you, they can't hurt you.
Resist, resist, resist.

The Police need change their name to the Police No Force.

 

With today's media? Yeah.....right.

 

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Running away is OK...?

Taking an officer's stun gun who ran to catch up to you is not a crime?
Dropping the stun gun and running again after once being caught once seems to warrant being shot at, imo.

 

Regardless of warrants, failure to pay child support or possession of drugs; the Officer abused his power, used excessive force when he took the "first" shot.

The driver, Scott posed absolutely no threat to the Officer, therefore the action taken by the Officer constituted excess force and murder first degree, IMO.

There is no possible defense or justification for the Officer shooting Mr. Scott.

 

The usual exculpation for use of fatal force by anyone, including police, is self-defence (including the defence of others). The actions must be proportionate to the threat. In this case it appears that the police officer was not in danger. Nor does it seem that any other person was in danger. It appears that self defence will fail.

The same circumstances appear to rule out justification using Tennessee v Garner.

Now it's up to the defence to create a narrative that will cause the jury to fail to find beyond a reasonable belief that the defendant intended to kill the deceased with malice aforethought. They might get it down to manslaughter.

 

So was Ruby Ridge a good shoot?

This is what forums are for. People can form opinions based on that video.

 

Who said that? People have opinions about this whether you like them or not. I can see the video and come to a rational conclusion that he murdered that man.

Didn't look like a question.

I fully understand why you won't respond about Ruby Ridge. A double standard problem?

 

Not exactly , you must also add to stop someone in the act of a felony, such as in my state.

 

1) Just because Tasing is generally less harmful than shooting someone does not mean it is not brutal.

2) you cherry picked my post.

 

There is no footage of the scuffle, unfortunately. Slager said this after the shooting not knowing there was a video. (after he had planted the tazer on the victim he initially reported scuffle/that suspect had his tazer) which we now know is a lie.

So the guy runs ( presumably because he does not want to be thrown in Jail for failing to make child support payments) the cop obviously gets close enough to taze the guy. Perhaps there was a scuffle, perhaps not. Either way the victim did not get the tazer.

Even if he had gotten the tazer ... some guy running away with a tazer is not reason to shoot the guy in the back.

 

Who is mad at you ? Just because someone says something that conflicts with your beliefs does not mean they are made at you. No need to feel persecuted.

I gave a link which gives all kinds of proof. Did you not hear about the NSA spying ?

 

Of course you were mad. That's why you got snide. The one crying about persecution is you. Is the NSA picking on you?

So spying means you lost rights? What rights? And go back to LBJ if you want to know when spying started here.............

http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2013/jun/18/spying-americans-very-old-story/

 

I saw a photo the other day (wish I could find it again) of a white cop in full uniform helping a black women across the finish line of a 5K race. Apparently her legs had cramped up and she wasn't going to make it. That photo is worth a thousand Al Sharptons and should be posterized and hanged in ALL police precincts, right behind the sergeant's desk.

 

Good point, thanks for making it. And just on that, at common law any citizen can use reasonable force to prevent a breach of the peace (note - "breach of the peace" may mean something different in US law, in British common law it refers to potential harm to a person). And further, at common law it was possible to kill a fleeing felon. That has been amended in my jurisdiction and probably elsewhere. I would think that every jurisdiction would have its own rules on that point so I don't want to generalise.

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Sad that it has to be so. It's news when a cop shows humanity. Yet it happens all the time, it's just not newsworthy.

 

Sure but opinion does not mean squat in court. Facts do and you got the facts wrong. Deal with it.

Question or not your "conflict" will be resolved with facts. Why do you avoid them?

Ruby Ridge? You are comparing apples to golf clubs.

 

Yes. That is why I am sure you agreed with the OJ verdict.

The fact is, I saw a cop dump his clip in a guy running away. What did you see?

At Ruby, a LEO took out 'threats'. Did they not?

 

I walked up on somebody robbing my car. I could not believe it. I thought at first it wasn't mine because someone else was inside it. I kept walking because I thought maybe my car was on the otherwise of it. When I realized it was my car I was close enough to it that the guy looked at me. I happened to be legally carrying a 9mm. I pulled it and pointed it at the guy because I did not know if he was armed or not.

He froze. Absolutely horrified. I told him to get out of the car but he wouldn't. I told him to show me his hands.....he wouldn't move. He only said "don't shoot me." I walked to the otherside of another car parked beside mine so that it would be between me and him. I held the gun up in the air then put it back. I told him I wasn't going to shoot him. He got out and ran off.

So I have looked at another person I had the power to kill. How in the world could this cop live with himself?