Public school under fire for sending kids on field trip to creationist museum

Could you imagine a public school coming under fire for organizing a field trip to a regular museum that teaches evolution?

 

Nothing in the Bible is supported by science.

Here's a question for you: why are there different breeds of dogs?

We do.

Evolution is nothing but a series of adaptions that help a species survive in their habitat.

You just described creationists.

 

Should students not learn about various religions?

 

If they want to learn about religion, let them do it on their own time.

 

Religion teaches either one of those two things?

 

How do you know they were taught as facts?

If it was phrased "various religions believe..."

Should students not learn about religion and its impact historically on the world?

 

All scientific theories started out as conjecture. Everyone responding seems to think only ideas that can be immediately tested are valid. That's not science, that's just a convenient excuse to discard ideas someone doesn't like.

 

How do you know it was taught as factual and not simply a belief?

 

Oh you mean like SHOWING then what other people believe.

What difference does it make?

 

That's the usual excuse. If evolution is so slow, then how did the millions of species alive today come about?

You still haven't explained how the jump is made from a species of 20 chromosomes to a new species of 22 chromosomes.

 

So parents didn't sign a permission slip?

 

Because different individuals among a species may adapt in different ways in different geographical areas. That adaptation may be useful in one area and useless in another, one single species may slowly evolve not just into one single new species but rather several different new species at the same time, each of which, over time, will also probably evolve into several more different species, increasing the number of new species exponentially.

And in regards to evolution being so slow, 3.5 billion years is a really long time.

Who told you it wasn't possible for two individuals within the same species with different numbers of chromosomes couldn't reproduce?

 

Nope.

It is not remotely balanced. Science is based on facts. Religion is not based on facts. Creationism is not based on facts. There is no reason for a public entity to send children to an institution so that their precious little heads will be filled with bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Nice try. Let's turn it around.

If your kids need a field trip, then you and your church aren't doing anything. Get off your butt. Take some responsibility, man. Keep your religion away from my kids. Pretty basic request. Capiche?

 

LOL! Da Nile runs deep. Damn Muslim river!

 

There are people who believe that the Holocaust never happened. Does that mean that we should teach students about Holocaust denial?

 

Did you not click on the link?

FACT Foundation Advancing Creation Truth

 

Oooo. They presented the information as fact! Oh no! Sounds like a good time to teach your child about some logical fallacies.

 

lmao - nope the issue is that it's teaching religion as fact in school.

Then you need to just shut up when some teacher decides to send your kids to an atheist exhibit which teaches that "God is dead", "religion is a fairy tale", etc - somehow I doubt you'd be happy about that.

I swear if you'd lean something on occasion that's not just a repeat of something you heard on talk radio, might not come across as so embarrassing. The fact that even the majority of Christians don't agree with literal creationism should clue you in, so the trip was violating the right of any Christian parents there who aren't Biblical literalists, not just "atheists"

 

The majority of people don't except Biblical young earth creationism as fact, it's a belief head by a minority of Biblical fundamentalists, not the majority of Christians - you're clearly mistaken bucko

Evolution isn't a "leftist" theme, unless by the same standard it was "leftists" who agreed with Galilieo's view that the Sun is the center of the solar system. If you were born in the 1500s you'd probably be calling this "leftist" view too and wanting the popular "Christian" view that the sun revolved around the earth to still be given equal treatment, lol:

galileowaswrong.com/

Nope, the field trips have been canceled so score one for the good guys.

There aren't "both sides", - evolution's been supported by science for over 200 years and is the only scientific explanation, which 99.95% of all biologists accept.

Creationism is a religious belief, not science - and proponents of the creation exhibits have been caught in numerous outright lies, and misrepresenting their "science credentials" (such as "Dr: Kent Hovind who presents himself as a scientist, but who's doctorate is in religious studies, not biology - and from a non-accredited diploma mill no less)

It's a conspiracy theory and that's about it. Unless you think that Holocaust denial, or 9/11 truther theories need to be taught in history schools, just so kids get to here "both sides" - roflmao.



You're just gonna have to learn that just because someone somewhere believes something doesn't make it an "equal side" in terms of science

 

I have a hard time believing that 3rd graders were being shown the exhibit as part of some critical comparison of religious beliefs - that's pretty in-depth curriculum for a 3rd grade class.

Most likely they were just being shown the creationist exhibits present as fact.

 

Because science takes the available evidence, all the evidence, then using reason develops a hypothesis and then forms a theory which is then always being refined and under consideration in the event there is new evidence which raises real questions, until there is a new theory that can counter and overcome the former one. That's how science works in simple terms.

Now how can we demonstrate a divine force didn't its not that hard there's no real scientific evidence for that, and if there is no evidence at all, that can be again placed under scientific scrutiny for that to sufficient level to especially challenge evolution. So its not a consideration as an Atheist to the clear default permission that Evolution is True since its what the evidence demonstrates and the vast body of scientific experts agree is the dominant and superior theory. If you folks want to disprove it the ball is in your court to prove otherwise and good luck with that.

Seriously we as humans don't have all the answers, that doesn't mean "god did it" it just means we are in need to continue the slow advancement of science to add to our knowledge and then find out more so we gain more answers.

As for the topic its embarrassing no wonder our students rate so poorly in science with moron parents supporting religious BS on impressionable children and I also blame the school and hope they get sued, there is no reason a child should be exposed to religion and religious terror (hell fire and brimstone) or fairy tales (insert any holy book) and amounts to me to child abuse. Why not do this teach them nothing about religion until they turn eighteen this includes confirmation and such after a rigorous public education or private education with a required government curriculum as the main coursework, then the study of religion in High School at their Senior Year of a comparative and secular overview course and holy books allowed as a study of literature (since its kind of important when for example reading Moby Dick to have some Bible knowledge). The at eighteen they can decide to join a faith as adults. But in this case I would say it was fully inappropriate.

 

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Its a school field trip, and no one needs a field trip. Try to make a bit more sense next time.

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Its 1 field trip. 1. If one trip can undue 18 years of parents, social, media influence.... then something is wrong.

 

Sure thing, no sense in teaching the sheep critical thinking.

 

You didnt answer the question and then go to compare a field trip to a molestation case.... lol? Loony tunes today.