Obama falters again on Oregon Shooting Speech

Like the federal government that declared colleges free fire zones er gun free zones

 

These shootings will start to stop when all the attention that gets paid to them starts to stop. That sounds terrible, but that's the truth of it. Anybody that for whatever reason is feeling rage or despair and any of the emotions that might lead a person to do such a thing is going to see the effect that each of these shootings has through the mass and social medias. 24 hour coverage of the violence, the sadness, interviews, profiles, memorials, on and on for a month or two. Anybody looking for a way to inflict pain or vengeance on others is basically give a brochure on what they can expect. Whether it's bullying or mental illness or drugs or whatever that's leading these folks to commit these mass murders, they are looking to cause hurt or punishment. All the media coverage shows exactly the damage they can expect to cause.

 

>>>MOD EDIT Filter Bypass Removed<<<-Every POTUS has spoken after a tragedy like this one-So,I don't know where you think you are going there-- And if OBAMA would wait to speak,he would be reemed by you for not caring,so Blow it out your pitutti,trying to politicize this tragedy!!!AND "YES" it is the Congress that makes the laws & every time anything gun comes up the ( I can't fight the NRA,cause they won't give me campaign money,whining)powerful gun lobby makes it impossible for this issue to even be brought to the floor--- I would say,you have no shame-------
What a bummer--heavy sigh----

 

Yes they have and until Obama none ever tried to make political hay off of it or use it to attack political foes.

 

And if he did the above what guarantee is there that it would do more good than harm? I think he is playing chess and perhaps understands the risk of over extension and the limits of his actual power.

 

I think he should resign from office and be replaced by a competent person with a decorated military career. But that's like asking Iran to be honest about self-policing of their nuclear program. Oh, chit....geeze, I crack myself up sometimes. LMAO

No disrespect for the victims, but it's ludicrous to even THINK that Obama would provide ANY sort of leadership. He stepped in his own crap again today when he had a news conference to bloviate his anti-gun agenda, as young people lay dead and dying in area hospitals. The man is a waste of human flesh, and the cockroaches have more value to the planet than he does. The only thing you can depend on with Obama, is that anything he touches will become a cluster ***k, plain & simple. To believe otherwise is to be complicit with the great divider. JMHO

 

I would respond to your post if I could figure out what you are trying to say-care to try again!!!
Yes they have what?
And until OBAMA "none" every tried---WHAT?

 

Reality? I'll give you reality: A young, mentally disturbed man wanted to commit evil and he committed evil. When the forces of evil try to strike, the forces of good must be ready to respond, in ever stronger numbers. The only self-defense is a deterrent. I agree with the NRA in arming every school and arming responsible adults with guns. See if a gun nut wants to come in when he gets shot ON sight.

 

Yes but if someone goes on rampage with a knife or a sword they might kill 1 person, not 15.

 

I been watching presidents do that for a few decades now and it has not done a thing to mitigate the problem.

 

Not 50,000 rounds but 20 rounds. You obviously did not read my post.

 

You can't read? Every time one of these mass shootings has happened Obama has used it as an opportunity to launch another assault on lawful gun owners as if they rather than the criminals were the problem. Most presidents prior to this who have spoken have limited their statements to offering condolences to the survivors and families of the victims.

 

Let's think that through. Imagine we stack new gun laws to say 200 feet in height. Page after page after page of gun laws. Unless that stack were placed between a gunman and the potential victims, what actual good would they do? People with evil intent will find a way around any law we can come up with. After all, making drugs illegal would solve a world of problems, right?

And don't forget the psychotropic drugs all these mass shooters have been on that point to mental issues and defective drugs to treat the issues far more than blaming a piece of metal that has no capacity to alter the thinking of a human. Nobody talks about clamping down on the pharmaceutical companies that openly describe the side effects that include violent tendencies to oneself and others. Why is that? Why did you go right to guns when the cause is, based on the history of these types of shootings, likely tied to mental health and flawed medicines? See....you made it political instead of looking for the root of the problem, all while telling someone else they have no shame and politicized it. See how that works? And our president has not one time made a single mention of it as a cause because he's focused on the tool, not the cause.

http://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/

 

To be fair to the president, Chris Harper Mercer had not yet been identified at the time he made that speech. I mean if you're looking for the party who has the victims' blood on his hands anyway... If you want to hold the responsible parties accountable you need look no further than this deranged, disaffected white teenager.

 

Out of curiosity what constitutes a responsible adult? How do we go about assessing the level of responsibility of a gun owner and who does this assessment and by what authority?

I am a fan of responsible firearm owners, but I am afraid that what constitutes a responsible gun owner to me is not universally agreed upon by all.

 

Aren't they always? With monotonous regularity, yet the excuses arrive before the name of the latest mass murderer.

 

Your posts are basically Media Matters inspired talking pts.What MSNBC uses
as gospel c/o their Obama Politburo.

 

Ask yourself one question: How come these guys never shoot up a police station? Why is it always a school? Or a movie theater? Or a church? Once you have your answer, you will also know what i think the president should do.

 

I wouldn't think it would mitigate anything. It's what leaders do in the face of adversity to bring folks together to heal and look for solutions as one large body instead of divided even further after so many issues we've already faced that continue to divide us. It's just a leadership thing, but he chooses politics over leadership and we just expect it because it happens every time. Today was a chance to convey condolences, to make known how tragic this is, to try to bring calm and show support for fellow citizens going through an incredibly difficult and catastrophic event, and to blow the discussion on root causes wide open.

Keep in mind he ignores Chicago where is boy Rahm runs things and has horrible gun statistics where gun control was tightest. There's a reason he never talks about it because it puts his cause to shame with piles of gun crimes where guns were not allowed and very strict acquisition regulations were in place. He simply refuses to address the root cause and repeatedly goes after the tool.

 

None of that will do anything except make it more inconvenient for law-abiding citizens to exercise their rights. You will not prevent these kinds of tragedies with more laws aimed (no pun) at disarming law-abiding citizens.

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Some of us are "doing something" and have been for years.

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Some of us are "doing something" and have been for years.

 

Certainly I did read your post, every word. But suppose we take your number of 20 rounds. But we enact your policy of buying ammo '3 months straight' triggers a visit from LE. If someone normally buys 20 rounds per month, or 60 rounds every 3 months, what would stop them from buying 30 rounds per month for 2 months , and zero rounds in the third month? They get the same 60 rounds over a 3 month period, and your policy has made no difference in behavior. What is the point of your policy?

 

You sound like the Gestapo. All of your suggestions are meaningless for the criminals & mentally ill who commit these atrocities, and often uses stolen weapons. How are you going to circumvent that little detail??? YOU CAN'T. You live in Fantasyland/Obamaland if you think additional regulations are the answers to mass shootings. You sound like Doomberg.

 

A Responsible adult is one who knows by now how Unresponsible this POTUS
is on a daily if not hourly basis.
It is now Fact.
Obama is Not responsible for His IRS and Targetting Conservatives.
Obama is Not Responsible for The Economy.
Obama is Not responsible for our national debt or deficits or budget.
Obama is Not responsible for Fast & Furious.
Obama is Not responsible for his NSA or new NDAA enacted bill.
Obama is Not responsible for any Veterans Administration problems.
Obama is Not responsible for where his Drones fly.
Obama is Not responsible for any enemies list.
Obama is Not responsible for Going to Church.
Obama is Not responsible for guys like Domestic Terrorist and colleague Bill Ayers.
Obama is Not responsible for his named mentors { Jeremiah Wright and Frank Marshall Davis }
Obama is Not responsible for ANY college transcripts or grades or courses or funding.
Obama is Not responsible for personally acting " stupidly " as Cops are.
Obama is Not responsible for showing up late to Every Press conference.
Obama is Not responsible for the unravelling in the Middle East.
Obama is Not responsible for any aspect of Benghazi.
Obama is Not responsible for any aspect of Obamacare.
and on and on and on ... till even the Cows no longer care to chew cud,

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/asia/china-railway-attack/
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/2...ahoma-family-members-stabbed-to-death-knives/
http://crimeresearch.org/2014/04/a-note-on-mass-victim-knife-attacks/


That took me about 30 seconds to find.

 

Maybe it's just me, but if we're going to start testing for responsible people before their allowed to do something, I think it should be procreate.