Ten killed in shooting at Ore. community college

It takes no insurance, it takes only a liability waiver. Wanna attend this school? Then sign the waiver, else seek your education elsewhere.

 

Again,situational awareness. If you're lying on your stomach, and you roll to draw your gun you're dead before you hit your back. Again, knowing how to use a gun in a situation is much different than knowing how to shoot a gun.

In this situation yes, they could tell who the bad guy was, but only after he started killing. But you cannot tell that until then. Carrying a gun emboldens people, so when they see another person with a gun they may mistake an action, a comment, or something that they then feel gives cause to them acting. I think more people will die because of mistakes than are killed in these types of shootings.

A well armed populace is dangerous, a well trained populous is what we need

 

The media is filled with hand wringing, sobbing, cries for more gun control and it makes me hopping mad!!! The ONE security guard had NO GUN!! It took the police 10 minutes to get there. (not because they didn't act quickly but they were at a distance away) Why oh why do we only restrict gun ownership of law abiding citizens?!..Heck, why did the college vote to have an UNARMED security guard!!! This is insanity!!

 

Apparently none since you don't have stricter gun laws by any measure and you lead the world in mass shootings.

 

I'll let you struggle with those "liberals" in your head, but why do you need to pretend that I would eliminate a possibility upon which I have not even commented?

No, I believe that comparable measures should be taken to prevent deranged individuals from easily obtaining sarin gas, polonium-210, and many other potentially lethal items.

It appears that you oppose any measures to reduce the frequent mass killing by gun-wielding criminals and lunatics in the US, and try to pretend we are impotent to do so.

 

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only if it's concealed, students shoudl never see the gun... ever

I have seen bad teachers, and I do not think teachers should be using guns to intimidate students, it's a school. not a prison....

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the picture was.... did you actually look at the picture you posted ???

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I'd love for the day when these gun nuts stop pretending they're playing a role in Die Hard 4 and look at the reality.

• For 364 days out of the Y-T-D there hasn't been anything remotely resembling an incident like this
  So why are you all pretending that you expect a shooting to happen in a gun free zone?
  
  
• More than likely the shooter has access to a legal firearm that the owner did not realize would make a grave transition from self-defense tool to mass shooting debacle.
  So when are gun nuts going to stop playing hypocrites about who is actually doing the shooting?What is stopping one of you guys from being the next shooter?
  
  
• I like how you guys ignorantly glide over the possibility that had this not been a gun-free zone, this shooting could have happened a lot sooner. Everyday the potential shooter would be waltzing in with the firearm and everyone is none the wiser
  So when are you going to stop proposing what-if scenarios as if you have the solution figured out

You guys need to get off your high horse and accept that there is something fundamentally wrong with your country due to the sheer frequency of these events compared to other developed nations.These shootings shootings need to be Prevented; meanwhile you guys keep boasting about how easily you would put somebody down

 

No it wasn't. Did you ?

 

The BEST prevention is to NOT disarm security guards. There should have been at least ONE law-abiding, gun carrying person in that college. Guns are ubiquitous and they are not going away. Restricting honest law abiding citizen from arming themselves is insanity.

 

Sure there's something different, but that doesn't mean that gun restriction will fix it. It probably has more to do with a violent culture, relative poverty, angst over a mismatch of cultural ideals and what is actually achievable, and de-institutionalization of mental illness. The "gun free zone" is something I wouldn't believe existed if I hadn't seen them myself. Like a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing sign would stop somebody from committing mass murder. It either has no effect, and is a joke, or can serve as an advertisement that stupid people who are easy targets work/live/study there. If you want to establish a real "gun free zone" you install metal detectors at all entrances, not stupid (*)(*)(*)(*)ing signs. But then somebody can come in with a few ceramic knives and kill a few more than they could have if somebody else had been armed (at least the security guard FFS), but fewer than if they had a gun themselves.

 

It was strange how Obama stomped out to the podium so early to denounce guns and put all of the blame on the guns. He knew early on the killer was black. He is fatherless just like Obama. He had to try to protect the killer early on.

 

most definitely did, just went back and looked to make sure you did not change it... definitely references the Zimmerman case

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don't agree with the blame it on guns from some on the left, but the rest is nonsense

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Every legally owned firearm is owned by a law abiding citizen up until the moment he start killing people.

 

You might want to look at it again yourself. Not a Zimmerman in the pic.

 

An honest law abiding citizen with legal guns just killed 10 people at a college.

 

Legal law abiding gun owner are also part of the problem.

 

my bold.... that's an oxymoron.... he wasn't an honest, law abiding citizen

 

Up until the point he started shooting, yes he was.

 

uuuhhh, check again sherlock, that was your gay news reporter that killed the news anchor and cameraman.... Do you DREAM about Zimmerman or something.... you seem to have taken that verdict pretty hard if everything you see reminds you of Zim-zam

 

Nosir. I have stated several times in this thread what it will take to reliably prevent crazy people from obtaining potentially lethal weapons; identify them early, strip them of their liberty, and lock them away. There are a number of obvious reasons that we cannot and should not do this, however, that is what it will take. To pretend that the tool they use is the cause of their lunacy, or that eliminating the tool will cure the crazy, is delusional, or agenda driven.

We, as a society have, for whatever reason, decided that freedom, liberty, and the preservation of individual rights are MORE IMPORTANT than preventing the occasional lunatic from going berserk and harming people.

 

good gosh you're paranoid.... ANYONE who uses guns to intimidate should be held accountable.... you really think I want to bring a gun to school so I can flash my piece when 2nd period won't sit down and shut up?


I'd laugh at the naivety of that statement, but I'm afraid you may actually think that.

 

Sure he was. He was probably just like everyone around here - claiming to need guns to protect himself, that more guns made society safer.

 

So again, Obama has been President for over 6 years. Two of those with a Democrat Congress. What is he waiting on if he believes more gun laws will stop this. Why has he allowed it to continue if he knows more gun laws will stop this. Why is the only thing he does is demand someone else do something and then goes and plays golf?

 

and you can't claim he's law abiding if he's breaking the law.