Israel marks exodus of Jews from Arab countries

you mean like all the non-European countries playing in the Europe soccer tournaments?

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several non-European states play in the European Cup.

 

Israelis always playing to be the victims.

Hell with them.

We have more important things to do.

 

They want reparations.. always reparations.

 

and now the Palestinians want reparations

 

Name them. Do you see Iraq playing in the European cup?

The Soccer World Cup is found with lots of irregularities.

Besides of having Israel as a geographical Middle Eastern country and playing as an European country, which is a complete demonstration of ignorance in geography, we have the United Kingdom, which is conformed by England, Scotland, Wales and North Ireland.

In this world cup, United Kingdom is supposed to participated as ONE representative, this is to say, as UK.

However, we have England playing by itself, Scotland, playing by itself, and so forth.

If we compare the UK and the US in their political map, we have that the US is conformed by Arkansas, Arizona, North Carolina, California, etc. etc. and that in the soccer world cup the US participates as ONE representative. We don't see the US participating as Kansas, Florida, etc. competing against themselves and against Mexico, El Salvador, etc. in order to qualify.

How it happens that the UK is politically one country and when is about a soccer tournament becomes a few countries?

No doubt that UK and Israel are fraudulent countries.

 

Israel plays in the European Federation because they were excluded from the Asian Federation.

 

so does Cyprus, Armenia, Georgia, Kazahkstan, Azerbaijan

 

Point being?
I was trying to clarify why Israel plays in the European Federation since there were people questioning the fact,

 

These countries must play in tournaments as "the rogue zone". These are not European countries.

Plus, the UK must participate as a sole representative.

Hope for the next Soccer World Cup Russia to present the demand of UK playing as one country. No more preferences over other countries.

 

The UK is a unique political entity. What's next? The EU needs to play with one team? I don't think you want that. The world cup would never be won by any other team than the EU

It's sports. If the Arab countries are too petty to play against Israel let them play with us. That goes for any country imo.

 

I always find this claim to be rather hilarious, especially when the poster is confronted: which IDF soldiers "forced" them out"? What methods did they use? How did a few thousand IDF soldiers manage to "forcibly remove" almost 1 million arab muslims? Details, please.

 

We threw bagels like lethal frizbees. They were stale.

 

I read that frozen bialys would work better.

In many years of discussing this I've yet to hear anyone, anywhere, anyhow, explain in detail how exactly the jewish soldiers "ethnically cleansed" the arab muslims.

No one can provide precise methods, can explain how a tiny amount of jewish soldiers could even begin to mount such a huge enterprise - how could a million arab muslims have been transported out of the area?, which soldiers actually took part - given such a huge project, one would have had to assume many generals and major figures leading the campaign would have been well known, the orders published, etc., included in the press, memoirs, etc. - but no, nothing ever is shown.

The entire "nakba" fairy tale is a complete fraud, like just about most other victimization claims about the fakestinians.

 

Read Benny Morris's book. He's one of the new historians that actually had access to the Israeli archives.

http://www.amazon.com/Palestinian-Refugee-Problem-Revisited-Cambridge/dp/0521009677

The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem

Morris' earlier work exposed the realities of how 700,000 Palestinians became refugees during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. While the focus of this edition remains the war and exodus, new archival material considers what happened in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Haifa, and how these events led to the collapse of urban Palestine.

Revealing battles and atrocities that contributed to the disintegration of rural communities, the story is harrowing. The refugees now number four million and their cause remains a major obstacle to regional peace.

 

a few thousand?

Israel had a total fighting force of 117,000

and no, they didn't force out all 750,000 Palestinian refugees......but around half of them

 

Already read it, and he's already walked back parts of it. There was no mass expulsion, its utter nonsense.

Moving 1 million people is a massive undertaking, and physically was impossible even if the entire IDF tried to do it.

I find it hilarious that today, the pal arabs are refusing to back down, and confronting the highly advanced, powerful IDF with rock throwers, but in the 1940s, facing a few hundred jewish soldiers with WW1 rifles ran like mad.

Also interesting is how none, not one, of the orders allegedly made to the IDF to somehow expel 1 milion arabs ever made it public, or how could the IDF had transferred that many people out of the country. Did all those arab muslims just walk onto IDF trucks or trains? How about bicycles? When studied more carefully, the whole BS story falls apart.

 

The Palestinians had no weapons... and the Israelis started in late 1947 with firebombings etc.

The Palestinians refugees walked out .. to Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon.

 

How many troops were assigned to this task? They had a war going against 5 arab nations, but were able to spare tens of thousands of troops to expel arab civilians? Ever been in the army, kid? That's not how reality works.

"Around half"? You sound so certain...

Ok, let's call your bluff...how EXACTLY did the IDF do that? What methods did they use? Did they go house to house in platoons? In cars? Did they knock on front doors, or shoot RPGs at front windows?

Also describe for us exactly how the IDF was able to move 375 THOUSAND people 20, 30, or 50 miles? Did the IDF have trucks or enormous trains with which to do so?

Why have NONE of the orders, which would have required tens of thousands of soldiers to begin implementing, ever been spoken of by IDF soldiers? WW2 has thousands of memoirs written, yet a massive campaign to expel a million people magically has gone under the radar and been hidden by an entire army? Is that what you are claiming we should believe?

 

Right, the IDF was outfitted with massive flamethrowers, and magic grenades which burned down entire houses when thrown, got it...

And 1 million arab muslims just agreed to pick up all of their belongings and "walk" 50 or 150 miles, while a war was raging around them...sure that makes sense.

You might not be aware of this, but you are not personally responsible for the intolerance, violence and hatred the arab muslims applied to the Israelis in 1948, so there's really no requirement for you to continue to try and defend a fairy tale that does not even begin to make sense or ring true.

This whole story is such garbage, its no wonder that the only israeli historians who believe it either ran from their earlier claims, or left Israel in disgrace.

 

Sure like my relatives who came one Sabath to the house after the prayer and the house was stipped bare.
The neibours took everything, even the forks and chairs.
They told the family, the only thing you still have is your lives.
A week later, the family chose to leave, just like you wrote.
They walked from Iran to Israel (then under British mandate) through Iraq and Syria.
Old people, kids and all.
Chose to leave, just kile you said, did not wish to die at their home town that week.

 

lol, 100,000 fighters out of a total population of 300,000.
That is interesting. You should fire your math teacher.

 

It's a fact that Jews committed acts of terror against others Jews in Arab country's, to blamed Arabs, too scare israeli's away. They got busted in Iraq and Egypt. An Israeli minister stepped down because of that, while his terrorist got decorated. Israel also was behind the sending the planes to Arab nations to get Jews to move away from that,.. like in operation magic carpet. While Arab countries banned Jews for years and years to go to Israel. While other Jews simply refused to sign some anti-zionist declaration meaning they agree that they are zionists, love Israel more than their own country and so must leave for their new homeland... during a state of war = treason.

 

They got mostly ethnic cleansed.

"At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations. To this figure, the report's compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%… of the emigration." A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases"

from the report :
"The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948".. from military intelligence SHAI
And that is according to Israel!

Do note... that Israel, in the mids of a war... had plenty of time to bulldozer entire cities where Arabs lived.
Those kinds of things can only be explained that it was a order from the top to ethnic cleanse Arabs on a massive scale.

 

LOL!!!!! 300,000?

there were 630,000 Jews in Palestine on the eve of the war, bro.

your history teacher...

 

Maybe because Eorope started this whole mess.