Israel marks exodus of Jews from Arab countries

Europe didn't invade Iraq.

the USA and Britian did.

 

and the UK is only taking in 20,000 over I think 5 years and those pre selected ones from camps in the area. How is the US doing as I think they have prime responsibility.

 

Right and things in the Middle East were utopia before the idiots from Europe meddled over oil.

Got news for you-a phack up in life can only blame his parents for so long, then he has to wake up, look in the mirror, and take responsibiluty for his own actions. Its time for the Arab League of nations, Iran and sharia law states to stop blaming the West for their own failures.

The Arab League of Nations and Iran to thuis day will not recognize Jews as national equals. Christians have. In terms of religion driving
the conflict of the Middle East its not Christianity or Judaism, its Islam. The thousands of terror attacks are done by Muslims in the name of Islam in the ME and Africa and to pretend otherwise is b.s.

To pretend this religious ideology is not what fuels the continued refusal to recognize Israel as a Jewish state and sp in and twist history to portray Muslims as victims of Jews and Christians is a crock.

Muslims in the ME and Africa are victims of Muslims-their own people who terrorize them, hold them captive through terror cells, antiquated corupt monarchies or military dictatorships.

This thread by the way was about the expulsion of Jews from Israel.

 

Why are you exaggerating? It was between 600-700,000 refugees and they walked out ..

Bennie Morris stood by his research... He just said that the Jews were justified.

I'm not a Arab >>>MOD EDIT Rule 2<<<

 

How about you stop quoting Ben Gurion then and go find out how they co-existed with MUSLIMS. Jews of the ME are Arabs. Try get it right. You meant Muslims and you clearly know nothing about dhimmitude and how non Muslims of all kinds not just Jews were and have been forced to live in Muslim Sharia law nations. Muslims. Muslim states. Try get your words right. Arabs could be Jews, Muslims, Christians, and if we want to be accurate the probable only true ones left are Beduins. At least find out the difference.

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Bingo. There it is. A war lost in 1949 and you Goomba demonstrate how you will continue to deny that war and use Palestinians as hostages rather than give them citizenship over a war lost in 1949.

Thank you.

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Bingo. There it is. A war lost in 1949 and you Goomba demonstrate how you will continue to deny that war and use Palestinians as hostages rather than give them citizenship over a war lost in 1949.

Thank you.

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Bingo. There it is. A war lost in 1949 and you Goomba demonstrate how you will continue to deny that war and use Palestinians as hostages rather than give them citizenship over a war lost in 1949.

Thank you.

 

Its even funnier that there are posters claiming that a real army, fighting for their very lives against arab muslims who seek to "throw the jews into the sea", would set aside a full THIRD of their manpower just to scare off civilians to vacate the region - even though that army had no means to transport a single arab, unless of course they wore cargo pants and could stick them in their pockets LOL. Just total, abject nonsense.

 

What a crock. It was the PA and your darlings in the boycott movement that shut down an Israeli company hiring thousands of Palestinians.

It was Hamas who blew up and destroyed all Israeli assisted Palestinian businesses in Gaza and murdered in cold blood Palestinians returning from working in Israel as collaborators.

Play that b.s. on someone else.

Israel more than tried financing, working side by side Palestinians. The average Palestinian and Israeli worked side by side. I was there do not even attempt to tell me I did not work side by side with Palestinians building roads. Don't even try. It was Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, PFLP, Islamic Jihad, on and on, terrorists in the name of their own Palestinian people who shut down the cooperation not Israel.

Spare me that crock I had friends, good friends, Palestinians shot and killed, their crime-daring to work with Israelis. Spare me.

 

Of course they did as arab muslims never bear responsibility for anything; they never commit terrorism, start wars, ethnically cleanse anyone....but if they ever did, they must have had 100% justification to do so. ISIS isn't even made up of arab muslims; its really protestants and disaffected shintos.

 

Sure, that's why ISIS took TWELVE YEARS to show up LOL.

For the 100th time, Iran caused ISIS when it forced its lackey iraqi puppet maliki to disenfranchise the sunnis there, forcing them out of their jobs and homes. But of course, since the euros and americans set foot in iraq - they are the ones who MUST be responsible.

 

Good article going into the difficulties and racism they have suffered in Israel

http://972mag.com/egyptian-tv-series-shines-light-on-the-untold-story-of-arab-jews/108515/

 

Ben Gurion was telling the plain truth.

Historically, according to the biblical relate, that area was "promised to Abraham" but wasn't given to him, the promise was for his descendants. Abraham continued traveling and traveling in his nomad's life.

After the worldwide catastrophe that caused Arabs starting the conquest of Egypt because its lack of army, which was destroyed under the water, and Israelites going in the desert for four decades. these Israelites didn't receive the promise land as a child receives a Christmas gift on December 25.

These Israelites went to war in order to passes the promised land.

Because lands are acquired by being the first settler (Israelites weren't the first settlers) by taking the land by force/war (Israelites took the land by force and war) and by negotiations (Israelites made deals with several original settlers in the promise land -Judges Chapter Two mentions of the deals and how the Israelites' god was p*ss off because his order was to kill everybody rather than making covenants with the original settlers-).


In the second INVASION to the promise land in order to create the State of Israel, similar historical events happened. Jews started to buy lands to the original settlers in order to be owners of the majority of that area, and this smart action facilitated the change of the political status. This is like Mexicans buying most of the land of California and later voting for being independent from the rest of the USA.

Besides, this State of Israel was practically imposed, because England took control of that land in 1918 in order to prepare the creation of the new state.

We can't return back history, and what is done is done.

So, we don't need to lie and tell story tales to others, and Ben Gurion was not lying about the fact that Israel was taking the promised land again, by force.

 

For instance, in an event which has clear echoes of the Australian state&#8217;s forced removal of aboriginal children, hundreds of Yemenite babies and children were abducted in the 1950s, as Shoshana Madmoni-Gerber documented in her 2014 book &#8220;Silencing the &#8216;Yemenite Babies Affair.&#8221;

In 1994 Rabbi Meshulam stirred the issue of the Yemeni babies and was incarcerated. Institutionalized racism was also frequently a factor in the relocation of Mizrahi communities to slum dwellings and economically disadvantaged development towns.

These events underline the fact that Mizrahi Jews have always been in a problematic relation to mainstream Zionism, a point which is reiterated by the fact that Mizrahi academics and activists have frequently emerged as strong advocates of Jewish-Arab co-existence.

The complexities and contradictions which have accompanied the integration of Mizrahi Jews into mainstream Israeli society appear to be inextricably linked to a Zionist mindset which situates a civilized, modern and liberal &#8220;self&#8221; in diametric opposition to an atavistic and essentially backwards Arab &#8220;other.&#8221; Ze&#8217;ev Jabotinsky, a key founding figure within political Zionism, encapsulated this viewpoint when he observed that: &#8220;Jews, thank God, have nothing in common with the East.&#8221;

Indeed, it is testament to the influence of the Zionist mindset that those who continue to define themselves as Arab Jews, such as the academic Ella Shohat, frequently feel &#8220;obliged to explain the mysteries of this oxymoronic entity.&#8221;

http://972mag.com/egyptian-tv-series-shines-light-on-the-untold-story-of-arab-jews/108515/

 

ISIS former name is "Al Qaeda in Iraq".

The group originated as Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad in 1999, which pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda in 2004. The group participated in the Iraqi insurgency that followed the March 2003 invasion of Iraq by Western forces. In January 2006, it joined other Sunni insurgent groups to form the Mujahideen Shura Council, which proclaimed the formation of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) in October 2006. After the Syrian Civil War began in March 2011, the ISI, under the leadership of al-Baghdadi, sent delegates into Syria in August 2011

 

The Arabs bear responsibility for succumbing to European manipulation.

 

Give them citizenship solely because they were ethnically cleansed by the Jews? Laughable.

 

Of course, because we all know how simple and easily manipulated the arab muslims are; how they are little more than children, cannot think for themselves, cannot build functioning societies of their own, or defend their countries.

In fact, I read how some pidgeons once flew over some arab muslim countries 1,000 years ago, and the arabs were so amazed at the droppings from things flying over them, that they decided to stop trying to build planes. Had those pidgeons not manipulated them into thinking they were really people flying above, the arabs would have beaten the Wright brothers by 1,000 years, but alas...

 

#1-that website is not even close to reputable, and cannot be taken seriously as a source

#2-I do love how on one hand, the jew-haters claim that the jews in arab muslim countries weren't forced out, then turn around and hold the mizrahi jews (jews expelled from arab countries) as examples of how "unfair" Israeli society is. What are those mizrahi jews doing in Israel, if they weren't forced out of the arab countries?

In other related, hilarious debates, the jew-haters hold the few iranian jews still there as a "model" community, "satisfied" with the "good" treatment their persian overlords have granted them - but these people cannot explain why, if the jews in arab countries had it so "good" like the persian jews, did they leave their arab countries/homes en masse?

Facts are hard things to deal with when you try and pretend they don't exist.

 

The author as well as the website is most certainly reputable if not of the same viewpoint as yourself

see previous link.

and as to all this jew hater lark. 24% of British Jews believe in some form of sanctions towards Israel and of those under thirty the number goes up to 41%. The research was done byIpsos-MORI and published by City University

Of course Universities and their lecturers are not reputable to you but to most they are. Please stop pretending all Jews share your views. Such a statement is somewhat antisemetic.

 

every other nation and ethnic group gives sanctuary and help to their countrymen who face persecution. why not Muslims?

 

they don't call themselves "Arabs"

 

Ask Europe, as they split the ME into individual nation-states.

 

you're evading the question.

 

There was no mass expulsions- The Jews in the arab world left in1948,1956,1967 and 1973,,, The Israelis can pay them reparations and pay reparation to all the Palestinian Arab and Palestinians who have been forced out of the West Bank, and the Negev.

 

There are several other sites about the kidnapped Yemeni babie

 

Remember when the Israelis too all those Yemeni babies?

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/09/02/w...yemen-an-enduring-mystery.html?pagewanted=all

The Babies From Yemen: An Enduring Mystery

By JOEL GREENBERG

Published: September 2, 1997



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JERUSALEM, Sept. 1&#8212; For a few days last week, two ordinary Israeli women became an extraordinary news media sensation.

Tzila Levine, the daughter of a Yemenite Jewish woman, had been put up for adoption as an infant without her mother's knowledge after they immigrated to Israel nearly 50 years ago. Last week Mrs. Levine traced and apparently found her biological parent, Margalit Umaysi. A DNA test confirmed their relationship with a certainty of 99.99 percent.

Their emotional reunion attracted wide attention because it nourished a persistent conspiracy theory that is part of an ethnic fault line running through Israeli society.

Those who believe the theory contend that hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Yemenite babies who were reported to have died or to have disappeared after their parents came to Israel were actually kidnapped and given or sold for adoption to European-born Israelis and American Jews.

The controversy over the Israeli establishment's treatment of the 50,000 Yemenite Jewish immigrants, most of whom were airlifted to Israel in 1949 and 1950, has festered for years. It has stoked deep-seated feelings of resentment among the country's Sephardic Jews of Middle Eastern and North African origin.

A generation of young Israelis of Yemenite descent has demanded explanations for the disappearance of their lost brothers and sisters from crowded tent camps where the Yemenite Jews were housed when they arrived. Babies were often taken from their parents to be put in nurseries and hospitals, and their parents were often told that the babies had died or were simply no longer there.

''I am living proof that things like that happened,'' said Mrs. Levine, 49, as she sat with Mrs. Umaysi in her simple stucco home in Ramat Gan, a suburb of Tel Aviv. ''It's an inexcusable act, and it's time to apologize and make restitution by uncovering it.'' Mrs. Levine was brought up by her adoptive parents on an Israeli kibbutz and now lives in Sacramento, Calif.

The circumstances of Mrs. Levine's adoption and even her link to Mrs. Umaysi remain unclear, reflecting the uncertainty surrounding the fate of the Yemenite babies. Her adoptive parents, both of whom have died, told her she came to them from a clinic where a doctor had children available for adoption.

Last week, at a hearing of a Government commission inquiring into the treatment of the Yemenite infants, Mrs. Levine's adoption papers were produced by a lawyer for the commission. The papers indicate that the adoption procedures began in 1948, a year before the records say Mrs. Umaysi arrived in Israel. Mrs. Levine's lawyer asserted that the papers were forged. The commission suggested a second DNA test.

Ami Hovav, an investigator who served on two earlier official commissions that examined the fate of the Yemenite babies, said that out of 650 cases of babies reported missing by their parents, 80 have still not been solved. Records showed that the rest of the babies died, except for a few dozen who were put up for adoption when their parents could not be traced, he said.

Conditions in the tent camps were chaotic, Mr. Hovav said. Records were sloppy and communication with the immigrants was poor because of language difficulties, leading to frequent mix-ups when babies were transferred to and from nurseries and hospitals. Many of the infants died because they were suffering from diseases and malnutrition that developed during their families' trek through Yemen to a transit camp in Aden. Sometimes parents were not informed of a child's death.

At a time when the new state of Israel was still fighting skirmishes on its borders and facing severe economic difficulties, the mass immigration strained the country's resources, contributing to the disorganization, Mr. Hovav added. ''There was negligence, but you have to understand the conditions that contributed to it,'' he said.

Dov Levitan of Bar-Ilan University, a leading authority on the Yemenite immigrants, cites similar statistics, adding that he has found no evidence of an organized conspiracy to spirit away Yemenite children for adoption. But there was a condescending attitude toward the new arrivals that led to carelessness in tracking down children and their parents, he said. The problem was compounded when successive Israeli Governments refused to order investigations, fearing damaging political fallout.

The two earlier inquiries about the Yemenite babies produced only limited findings. The latest commission was announced after a shootout in 1994 between a radical Yemenite group and the police that left one militant dead. The group, led by Uzi Meshulam, who is now serving an eight-year jail sentence, contends that more than 4,500 Yemenite babies were kidnapped for illegal adoption.

Other Yemenite Jewish advocates put the numbers at between 1,000 and more than 2,000. They assert that the European-born Ashkenazic Israeli establishment looked down at the new immigrants and their traditional ways and felt free to take their children for adoption by childless European Jewish couples, many of them Holocaust surivors.

Avner Farhi, an Israeli reporter of Yemenite descent who has been investigating the disappearances, contends that the children were deliberately separated from their parents and moved to nurseries or hospitals to pave the way for their adoption.

''There was a planned system to transfer children to adoption,'' said Mr. Farhi, whose sister was reported to have died in a tent camp. ''Perfectly healthy children ended up with an adoptive family in Israel or abroad, and no one looked for their parents. It was criminal negligence.''

Mr. Hovav disputed Mr. Farhi's arguments, asserting that many infants who seemed healthy to their parents were actually quite sick. And babies were kept in heated nursery buildings because the tents where their parents lived were exposed to the elements, he said.

Mr. Levitan agreed that there was a patronizing attitude toward the immgrants. In some cases the Yemenites' religious studies were restricted and their traditional side-curls were cut to remake them into modern, secular Israelis.

''The concept was absorption through modernization, by inculcating the values of Western society,'' Mr. Levitan said. ''The parents were treated like primitive people who didn't know what was good for them, who aren't capable of taking care of their own kids. There was disregard for the parents, an unwillingness to make the effort to investigate, but not a conspiracy.''

The disappearance of the children left a trail of grief that continues to haunt their parents nearly 50 years later. Several weeks ago, four families of missing children opened graves bearing their children's names, but found no remains, deepening the mystery.

''I was looking for her for 50 years, dreaming about her,'' said Mrs. Umaysi of her lost daughter. She had fed her one day at a hospital near her tent camp, and the next day the baby was gone, Mrs. Umaysi recalled. Mr. Hovav says the baby girl was mistakenly returned to a different tent camp and never traced to her mother.

Mrs. Levine, who knew she was adopted from the time she was 6, said that she began searching for her biological parents in the 1970's. Two years ago, she said, she saw Sampson Giat, the chairman of the Yemenite Jewish Federation of America, on a television program, and began corresponding with him about her case.

Earlier this month she arrived in Israel, and a picture of her as a child appeared in an Israeli newspaper. Families who ,,,,