Why did Einstein call racism "a disease of white people"?

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Racism flows in the blood?" That does that mean?
     
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    Racism; has become one of the most abused political words of the decade. Stupid people have rendered the word cliché. A racist is a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another. It does not mean bias, prejudiced, discriminatory or bigoted but poorly educated folk group all those terms under racism. I've seen blacks who dislike and hate whites but it isn't because they think blacks are superior to whites. Conversely, I know whites who dislike or hate blacks but not necessarily because they think they are better than blacks. However, by far, I have also run into whites who seriously believe they are genetically superior to all other races.

    Was Einstein correct? Is it a disease? Maybe, but it appears to be a more social than physical infection.
     
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    Einstein could only observe people in the time he was living in. Im sure if he were alive today his observation would be different. People change but racism doesnt. Well at least we know one thing....einstein never got a time machine functioning.
     
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    Well, I think in 1946 racism especially in southern states was ...an unhealthy disease primarily held by white people. I think blacks have a bad case of this virus now.
     
  5. DarkSkies

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    It's related to both.

    To your second question, the North - South thing sounds like some other form of xeno-hatred, but I wouldn't consider it racist.
     
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    There is something unique and distinct about racism exhibited among the white man.Why else are they called racists?
     
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    Not to the extent, nature and degree as exhibited among the white man.
     
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    If a black skinned person felt he/she was superior to white skinned persons would he/she be a racist or simply exhibiting a form of xeno-hatred?

    We seem to abuse the terms racist and racism frequently today by quickly applying them as a defense mechanism when disagreement occurs if it can be reduced in any way to allow skin colour to be applied to the differing opinions.

    Perhaps it's time we all began to identify ourselves as humans when asked our race?
     
  9. DarkSkies

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    The black-skinned person would be a racist. But, I feel I must say a black person being racist is in no way comparable to a white-skinned person being racist. The difference being the white racist has systems, the numbers, the firepower, etc. to back their racism.

    Terms related to racism aren't really abused. We just happen to live in a society where racism is reinforced in every facet of living so it oozes out in every way. I hear people say we abuse the terms when a disagreement occurs, but I need an example of this. If racism is the founding system in this country, then it makes sense for people to recognize its manifestations and call it out like Einstein did.

    We could identify ourselves as humans when asked our race, but the genie is already out of the bottle. Besides, race is a pretty good description of a person. Pretending it doesn't exist won't help anything. What would help is when people start treating race as just a description of a person instead of all the attributes they associate with that race.
     
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    Yeah that looks like a racist statement. I find that once a mind is infected with racism it doesn't seem to find much opportunity to be otherwise engaged.

    Take care,
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  11. Goomba

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    No, just the truth, kinda like how Asians are good at math. All races and ethnicities have their pros and cons, and white people are just...racist.
     
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    Haha, good one. :cool:

    Oh, you were serious. Lemme help y'out then: in modern America, racism finds no safer harbor than in the left and the black community, and the racism supposedly exhibited by the overwhelming majority of other whites is projected onto them by leftists who employ the same psychological principles by which feminist misandrists have emasculated so many men through their constant and strident accusations of misogyny, which is why, e.g., so many whites voted for Obama.
     
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    Is your response based on the proviso of having a known/unknown Caucasian ancestor? While it may be true that there are still some people who could truly be defined as racists, they are probably a very small number today and would have great difficulty in achieving power to exercise their racism to any extent beyond the laws that now exist.

    I quite often disagree with how our government is being run, and have done so under nearly every President in my lifetime, but on several occasions have been called racist for disagreeing with Obama. The terms can be found applied in many news stories today, and nearly every case when Liberal and Conservatives comment on the news relating to government actions.

    What exactly were the words spoken by Einstein?

    If you believe race is a pretty good description of a person that allows statistical data to form the basis of your opinions which is another reason I prefer individualism over collectivism. Nearly every study made in our societies compares race which tends to promote the application of race in the decisions/views expressed as a result of those studies.

    While the OP 'claims' that Einstein called "racism a disease of white people", even if true what methods of treatment are we seeking to apply? Personally I feel that racism has and would continue to atrophy even more quickly if left to be a societal issue rather than constantly giving it more life as a national political issue. Like constantly picking at a scab, it takes longer for the wound to heal.
     
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    a. This is not true. Many supremacist have infiltrated law enforcement, for example, and are exercising their beliefs there.

    b. While some people disagree with Obama do so under sincere reasons, others hide behind those legitimate reasons to exercise their outright hatred of him. For a sitting president, he has endured an enourmous amount of outright disrespect. Unfortunately for those who have legitimate gripes against his administration, loud-mouth factions have done nothing but race-bait the entire time he was president. This does nothing but cause those who are wary of such actions to become defensive.

    c. "There is separation of colored people from white people in the United States,” he said. “That separation is not a disease of colored people. It is a disease of white people. And, I do not intend to be quiet about it."

    d. No, I believe race is a pretty good description of a person. If I wanted to describe a person, I should be able to say, "Oh, he was a white guy with brown eyes and black hair" instead of just, "Oh, he has brown eyes and black hair." The racial data collection helps those who are interested in measuring disparities and to closely identify what ethnic groups are likely experiencing. In effect, race is another attribute of data collection and provides a wealth of information. I actually have no problem with race-data collection.

    e. There's a few things that can mitigate the disease. 1. Cope. 2. Fight tooth and nail against it. 3. Diminish its power by finding what powers it and then undermine that power source. Racism is not going to go away until it is dealt with. Imagine all the people who believe that if only no one would say anything, things would heal (don't pick the scab). This thinking is dead wrong. Consider this, in Africa, one of the most populous nations, Nigeria with 177,000,000 citizens only has like 57,000 people in prison. Contrast that with America who only has 41,000,000 black people in it, yet they constitute about 1,000,000 black people in prison. Racism really isn't a scab, or dying. It's been a boiling problem since manifest destiny.
     
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    so you are a racist?
     
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    a. IF true, identify them and work to remove them.

    b. While the titled positions of our government are due respect, it is not an entitlement of those who fill them who are made responsible by their actions to earn the respect they are worthy of relative to the title they hold. I find a large number of persons who support Obama or other politicians of colour unwilling to deal with any disagreement without inserting the claim of racism.

    c. Peaceful societies, communities, are generally formed as a result of people who have much in common. As such there are societies, communities that are predominantly Catholic, Irish, Russian, Vietnamese, Black, White, etc. There are many reasons by which people are brought together, as well as reasons they remain apart. I previously lived in a community which was primarily Asian, Laotian, Vietnamese, Thai, Cambodian, and got along quite well as I spoke their languages well enough to communicate and disagreed with very little except for a few food items I preferred not to eat. We don't all have to live under the same roof in order to work together and achieve the goals we each desire, some identical, some similar, and some quite different. The primary objective should be in allowing each to exercise the same rights without imposing upon others.

    d. I have no problem with using skin colour in describing one human from another but too often some allow it to be applied in describing the content of ones mind, such as you seem to do. If disparities are found to exist by studies based on skin colour, it would be more advantageous to look to where they are dominant and resolve them at their source rather than make them a national issue expecting government to produce a single solution.

    e. Either "cope" or "fight tooth and nail against it"? I might agree that it should be determined where it exists and dealt with at the source. In many cases it's not picking at a scab, but picking until you create a wound and then not allowing the wound to heal. Are you implying our laws are too tough for blacks to be able to obey? I don't think poor whites are treated much different than blacks by our legal system. Money talks, regardless of the skin colour of those who possess it.

    Enough said on my part, go ahead and disagree if you wish and perhaps another will pick up and respond further if they wish.
     
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    While I disagree with everything you said here, I thank you for the time.
     
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    True, and that is why they are historically called racists. But all are not racist though most of them have a kind superiority complex as if they are a different, a racially superior race. No race is genetically superior, and by nature all are equally endowed with certain potentials. There are some advantages, cultural advantages, geographical advantages. Why one race evolved faster than the other, the answer lies in their geographical advantage. When the earth they are tilling is fertile and with a minimum amount of labor they can produce large amounts of food materials they will have time to think, imagine and of course write. While others are in an infertile land and they have to pass all their moments in their production processes and have little time at their disposal for creative works and as such they lag behind the race. But most do not realize this fact and think they are a chosen race and the very offspring of Jesus or Abraham. This notoriety of them that they are by birth superior and the blacks are inferior and are therefore to be subjected to slavery is something the whites used to think before slavery was abolished.
     
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    You are partly right and of course now differences live together in the same community, interact, intermarry, love now and this trend is growing since America is a country of multiculturalism and people from different lands and cultures flee there and mix up. But there are some discrimination, though legally there can be no discrimination. The colonial impact has not been over and of course the supremacy of the whites is not completely over

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    You are partly right and of course now differences live together in the same community, interact, intermarry, love now and this trend is growing since America is a country of multiculturalism and people from different lands and cultures flee there and mix up. But there are some discrimination, though legally there can be no discrimination. The colonial impact has not been over and of course the supremacy of the whites is not completely over
     
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    Despite the Apartheid's shortcomings, South Africa avoided massacres and genocide while under its rule/leadership, the common disease afflicting other parts of Africa at the time. Not to mention the economic boom benefiting both the white and the black, though more the white.
     
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    If you like, that means every great civilization in Europe and Asia was black, but we knew that already

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    race based slavery, which relates to the op was only a European institution though
     
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    Whites committed genocide in SA, they also had concentration camps before Germany. Read your history. Also the positive economic impact was only felt by whites. When whites left they left SAwith a crushing debt that they are still paying
     
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    How can I be racist when we're all children of Adam? :)
     
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    I doubt that the Europeans invented anything about slavery that had not already been tried in Africa..
     
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    There is not that much overt discrimination in the US--it is illegal, for one thing. And the US is hardly the worst place; many cultures are discriminatory. The Japanese, for one. Additionally, there are reasons the Chinese look as similar to each other as they do; my understanding is that historically they have been rather genocidal.

    Racism is not limited to just one cultural group.

    Regarding genetic superiority, IMO that is more a matter of individual families and how carefully they select mates. There is definitely variation among individuals.

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    The Spaniards that were genocidal in SA were undoubtedly culturally influenced by Islam.
     

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