Make NICS free and available for the public to use online

The online NICS check would only take a few minutes to complete and each check would be recorded. Gun traffickers would be prohibited from using the tactic of buying guns from people who inherit them and then selling them to someone while being willfully ignorant of their background. State anti gun trafficking laws and this hypothetical free system would open the door for more undercover operations against gun trafficking from local law enforcement.

 

If its mandated, it cant be enforced.
it should be voluntary though.

 

It can be enforced through tips from the public and undercover agents/ confidential informants that where hidden recorders while buying firearms. Transactions might also be able to be taped with hidden cameras.

 

do you propose stuff in the realistic belief it will actually decrease crime or because you feel a NEED to do SOMETHING

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you think we have enough resources to divert cops to this crap?

why are so many citizens so enamored with more government control over citizens?

 

Why is it crap to you? Local law enforcement would not be arresting petty criminals, they would busting people who put guns straight in the hands of violent convicts. My county sheriffs department has a whole team dedicated to drug trafficng. That's great and all, but it would be nice if major counties like the one I live in also put some effort in fighting gun trafficking and had state gun trafficking laws they could enforce in order to battle it.

I'm not a anti gun nut. I'm a legal gun owner who respects the right to self defence. I want the states of this country to battle gun trafficking.

 

its crap. we should be concentrating our limited law enforcement efforts on VIOLENT Criminals
catch a criminal using a gun in a crime of violence, nail him and if he can establish someone provided him with a firearm and knew he was a mope, nail that person to. setting up "sting operations" etc that target people who aren't knowingly supplying criminals-WASTE OF TIME

 

The DOJ found that about 40 percent of state inmates didn't get their guns from friends/family members, they didnt get it from a gun shop, pawn shop, or gun show, but instead the "street/other illigeal source". When inmates say they got their guns from "the street" they most likely mean they got it from a gun trafficer who has no problem making a bussines off selling guns to convicts. We have to battle the people who give guns to that 40 percent.

 

no gun should be sold without a background check.

I can't believe anyone would oppose this.

its common sense.

 

its already illegal. you know those people won't conduct background checks since they are immune from being prosecuted by failing to self incriminate

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anyone who respects the constitution opposes federal background checks as violating the tenth amendment and the second amendment

how can someone who claims to be an FBI office holder that does not exist even talk about COMMON SENSE given how many claims you have made on this board that you know are false and we know are false?

 

ah, so now we can't even ask gun buyers if they are felons, been kicked out of the military, have a warrant out for their arrest, are addicted to illegal drugs?

LOL!!!

why are you so eager to make it easy for dangerous people to possess firearms?

its not like you live in the desert or forest. These people may come at you one day.

 

I cannot believe, simply cannot believe that someone who claims to be former Federal prosecutor actually thinks its wrong, immoral, and unConstitutional, to make sure convicted felons, folks wanted for murder/rape/child abuse/assault, folks who were forcibly instutionalized by a judge, cannot buy a gun.

does this guy REALLY think such individuals should be able to possess lots of guns?

unbelievable. Its just unbelievable.

 

what part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED supports a federal background check

what part of COMMERCE AMONG THE STATES really means the federal government has the power to make a gun dealer in Ohio conduct a background check on another citizen from Ohio just because the Dealer may have bought the gun from a maker in Michigan?]]

Do you think someone who makes a false claim of being an FBI official should be able to own any guns? you claim to own a bunch of guns that I know you cannot possibly possess. You appear to be mad that you cannot disprove my claim of being a former DOJ official-something that was proven to you on another board so you try to pretend you have equal credibility by stating you hold an FBI office that does not even (nor has EVER) existed

 

Very few firearms have moved from law abiding to criminal use, with estimates of from 5% to 10% only. Criminals buy their firearms on the black market. The old idiocy that law abiding firearm eventually have their firearms fall into the hands of criminals.

Now, if you still want to do some good with gun control, PUSH OUR GOVERNMENT TO ACTUALLY GO BALLS TO THE WALL GETTING CRIMINAL'S guns. Don't try to eliminate guns in the hands of law abiding citizens. That one step will eliminate between 90% and 95% of firearm violence. IOW, do it right.

 

reading your many views on allowing felons and wanted men to possess firearms, your justifying of shooting police, I can fully understand why your status as a DOJ official being "former", is very believable.

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but you guys refuse to fully fund the ATF, and give them the personnel they need to do their job

 

So you think it's acceptable for your neighbor (who you aren't buying a gun from) to do a NICS check on you? How about the local news?

 

I believe the public should be able to know who is a convict and who's not for their own safety.

 

Convicts are easy to spot; they're the ones behind bars. They're also the ONLY ones who we can prevent getting a firearm. Once a convict regains his freedom, he will be able to get a firearm, and no laws can prevent it.

 

All NICS transactions have to be recorded on ATF 4473 with NICS "go code" authorizing the sale.
That's always been dome by a licensed FFL dealer who records all 4473 transactions in FFL dealer log which is subject to random ATF audits.
How do you propose ATF audit individual sales?

I buy and sell half a dozen guns or less a year, most sold online and shipped to buyers FFL.
Existing laws make it illegal to sell to a felon or mentally ill person, shipping directly to an FFL is my only insurance of not selling to someone who can't legally own a weapon, which as an offense would make me a felon.
We have laws we need to enforce instead of making more.

 

Nope, a buyer needs not to know my address.
I usually meet people to buy and sell. Just a added protection for myself and my family.

 

The hypothetical free,public, online NCIS shouldnt list peoples addresses for the public to view.

 

Don't care. All they need to know is I am there with what I am selling or buying. If that is not good enough? Too bad.

 

If states reported to NICS as each state should we wouldn't be having this discussion.....

 

This hypothetical anonymous public NICS need only take minimal pertinent information to identify the BUYER, and respond with a simple "YES" or "NO", only.

This isn't going to do anything meaningful to thwart criminals from getting firearms, though. I would voluntarily use it, as a seller, for my own peace of mind.

 

Forget it.

This is how the gun banners will work it - first the NICS will be public and the seller will be responsible for keeping his records. Then there will be a few cases in which the seller lost his records, the gun banners will hype it and claim the lost records hindered a criminal investigation, and the "solution" will be for the govt to record and keep the NICS check data, this will be to "protect" the seller and to aid in criminal investigations. But its really now a nationally gun registry - and that's what the gun banners want. They don't care about public safety or keeping guns out of criminals hands, they want to know who has a gun.

In the 1970's, Nelson Shields, chairman of The National Council to Control Handguns (later renamed Handgun Control, Inc., today known as the Brady Campaign to Prevent Handgun Violence) wrote:

"The first problem is to slow down the number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second problem is to get handguns registered. The final problem is to make possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition–except for the military, police, licensed security guards....totally illegal."

Registration is key to confiscation.

No to registration. That means no universal background checks because the gun banners cannot be trusted.

 

background checks is tyranny!!!!!