Trump or Sanders - if you had to vote, who?

Given the recent polling, things could become very interesting, so

IF YOU HAD TO VOTE ; no pathetic 'Im too cool to vote for these guys etc'

Is it

Trump?

or

Sanders?


Please vote and explain why, debate welcome

 

Trump vs. Sanders? Gary Johnson has announced he is going to try to become the Libertarian Candidate once more. He was in 2012 and I voted for Johnson then. I didn't trust one of the major party candidates and had lost faith in the other. Trump vs. Sanders, Johnson would get my vote. I do not trust Trump much like I didn't trust Romney. Sanders I have a lot of respect for, but his politics are too far out there in left field for me, so far left he is on Venus.

The fact is I made up my mind a long time ago as to whom I would never vote for, Trump, Clinton and Sanders fall into that category. I have a lot of dislike for both Trump and Clinton, as for Sanders it is just political incompatibility. When I dislike both major parties candidates, voting third party is nothing new to me. I have done so in 5 of the last six presidential elections and 6 times over all. Voting for the lesser of two evils or the least worst candidate will still leave you with a very bad president.

 

Thanks but I wasn't asking for alternative votes. Perhaps of course I should have made that clear.

Why is this question too hard for people?

 

Because that is a choice I will not make. Because in Georgia we have a choice of the Republican candidate, the Democratic Candidate, the Libertarian Candidate, the Constitution Party's Candidate and the Green Party's Candidate. It is not a zero sum choice. I know the two major parties want it to be so, to make it so. Neither like competition and both do all they can to eliminate any competition to them.

If my Georgia Ballot only had those two names, Trump and Sanders or Trump and Clinton for that matter and none of the other minor parties, I would either leave it blank or write in Mickey Mouse or Batman. There are other options than just these two.

 

Okay but you know what I can now demand you answer;

Gun to your head ; make one choice -

Please either answer or go elsewhere. No one is interested in your other candidates. Not even you.

 

Trump. He's a fiscal conservative and a liberal on social issues.

Bernie's socialism goes against everything American.

 

i would of course vote for Sanders.

Sanders would try to bankrupt the USA, but Trump would turn us into a Nazi state

 

I pull the trigger.

 

Well, if it was at gunpoint to vote for one or another, I'd vote Sanders. He's less likely to get us in a major war than Trump. Either would ruin the country, but with Sanders, we might not end up in a thermonuclear heap.

That said, in real life, I'd vote third party.

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No evidence that Trump is a fiscal conservative.

 

Under absolutely no circumstance will I ever vote for Donald Trump as I feel he would be a terrible president and quite possibly severely damage our country. In the scenario provided I would vote for Sanders to keep Trump out.

 

Great poll. Everyone on the left votes for Sanders, everyone on the right votes for Trump. Very informative. You could have just asked people what side of the political spectrum they were on.

 

Yeah, it really depends on what people mean by "fiscal conservative." If they mean less spending, then (pardon me, I need to get back up off of the floor), then no, Trump is not a fiscal conservative. If they mean adherence to free market values, then (hold on, back on the floor again), then no. Hm, I guess it doesn't depend after all. Trump just isn't a fiscal conservative.

 

Sanders. Although I don't agree with his politics, he seems like a well-intentioned, kind-hearted guy. Trump is an ass clown.

 

Gun to my head, I'd vote against Trump. Gun not to my head, I'd still vote against Trump. If I consider all the candidates in the race from either side, I'm not sure there is someone that motivates me to vote FOR them. That being said, I always vote… sometimes for, sometimes against, but I do not sit out elections.

 

I'd vote for Trump because I'm not a gun-grabbing, fetus-killing, Christian-bashing socialist.

Besides, Sanders supports more of the tenets of Communism than he does the Amendments in the Bill of Rights.

 

The problem with this approach, though fine if that's your choice, it usually works against the third-party voters goal.

If third parties were smart, they would work from the bottom up. They should focus their limited resources solely on seats they actually have a chance to win and throw less money away going for the gold they are unlikely to reach. It's the only way they will make it to mainstream.

So, I vote for my favorites only in those grass-roots battles and cast my higher-office votes for the lesser of the two evils, for now. (patience)

Having said that, the choice in this poll makes me want to pull the trigger as well.

 

Bernie would then get my vote.

 

Looking back since I first started voting in 1968, if the voting age had been 18 instead of 21 I could have voted in 1964. I have voted for the candidate I most wanted to win in each election. I never voted against a candidate because I thought they were the lesser of two evils. Even if the lesser of two evils wins, you still have evil in office.

I agree with your assessment of working bottom to top. All too often third parties are all top down and thus never develop grass roots or an organization that can win at the national level. My own Reform Party was like that. Once Perot left, it basically went kaput.

The thing I and I think you too realize, I have been told that it is the Republicans and Democrats that write the election laws and they do so as a mutual protection act. So where do most of these election laws get written. At the state level. So as you pointed out, running and winning at the state level, in state legislatures can one or a third party changes these laws to allow them or any other third party to become viable and challenge the existing two major parties. Until that happens, all those who do not agree with either party will continue to vote for the lesser of two evils and that will be their choice for election after election after election.

 

That's ridiculous. I don't care if my President is kind. And I'm not even a Trump supporter. I back Rand Paul with Ted Cruz as a second option.

Someone who plans on taxing me 90% of my income will never receive my vote.

 

Sounds like you have a couple of decades worth of voting over me but I agree and it's absolutely due to the gerrymandering, by the two ruling parties, that my strategy is what it is.

That gerrymandering includes the manipulation of the addle minded party zealots. Change in attitudes and politics is slow.

The necessity to vote for the lesser of two evils is only geared to keep the greater of the two out of office while my scheme percolates.

 

Bernie can plan to tax 90% all he wants. If it were possible for a President to do that, the Messiah would already be doing it. What I don't want to see is another (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) self-promoter like the one we currently have.

 

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Bernie Sanders, without a doubt. Sanders has character. Trump is a character, a cartoon character.

 

I voted 4 R nation's greatest hero, Donald Trump.

 

I do not think voting for the lesser of two evils accomplishes anything. Heck, I do not think my vote for a third party and against the two evils accomplishes anything either. But at least in my mind, I had nothing to do with putting evil into office even if the winner is a bit less evil than the other. My mind is at ease knowing I voted for whom I thought would make the best president regardless of party or whether he had a realistic chance of winning.

not everything is an either or choice or a zero sum game. It is business as usual unless one dares to be different and take a chance, even if that chance is futile at the present.

 

He will attempt to push legislation to get that done. I can't imagine the regulation under that clown.


I cannot believe you would voluntarily put a socialist in the White House. Socialism flies in the face of everything for which America stands.

Anyone who would vote for Bernie Sanders under ANY circumstance needs a reality-check and crash course regarding how the American economy works best.