Busting the Myth of Separation of Church and State

Nowhere can this be found in the constitution. Nowhere. It does say, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Period. Nothing more.

What's so hard to understand about that?

The article @ http://canadafreepress.com/article/78591#When:19:23:00Z clearly relates how anti-religious organizations have conducted a campaign to frighten pastors from speaking on political ideals from their pulpits, often using outright lies as part of their threats.

It's about time pastors speak up.

 

Politics is not the job of church pastors. Their job is to protect and preach the myths and legends that they hold dear to those that believe them. When they (churches) pay taxes they can preach politics.

 

What's the Law of the Land in the United States?

Find one mention of "Jesus" in the U.S. Constitution.

Find one mention of "God" in the U.S. Constitution.


Yet we're TOLD that "America was founded as a Judeo-Christian nation".

 

The Religious Right want churches to become illegal PACs....promoting not just an ideology, but a specific party and candidates....while still claiming tax-exempt status.

They basically do it now. The minister or pastor endorses a candidate (like Jerry Falwell, Jr. endorsing Trump) but carefully avoids saying that his church is endorsing Trump....just assumes his "flock" will follow his lead and do it too.

Even Koch Brothers PACs can't get away with that.

 

The Supreme Court is given the power to interpret the constitution and they have interpreted the separation of church and state. You need to realize that the constitution is very unclear on most things and that was done intentionally.

 

Its everyones job .

 

There is nothing unclear about the 1st amendment. All it forbids is the establishment of a Church of the US. It clearly says other than that congress can make no laws regarding religion or the free practice there of. Too bad they no longer follow it and keep making laws that do just that.

Also like separation of church and state judicial review is no where to be found in the constitution.

 

No, no it's not. My job is in manufacturing. My duty as a citizen is to pay attention to politics and vote. Pastors can vote and say what they want outside of church but to preach politics from the pulpit is bad. It's bad enough that their "flock" will come and listen to the fairy tales at least once a week and the influence the pastors have over them. When you have them(pastors) also telling them how to vote......that's bad news.

 

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Poor oppressed Christians...

 

Yet the First Amendment to our Bill of Rights say nothing about separation of church and state. It does say Congress can not establish a religion, (like the kind the British had where you had to belong to it, or support it.) It not only doesn't say separation, up to the Liberal dominated 1947 USSC ruling by 5-4, we never had separation between the two. As a matter of fact, government mixed with religion quite frequently all through our history, still does. How do you explain that?

 

Yet every state Constitution does mention God. Every one of them.

All 50 State Constitutions Mention God « The IUSB Vision ...



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The Preamble say in part: "We the people of the State of Alabama, invoking the favor ... new Constitutions for their states, ALL of them without question mention God. ... Jefferson went to church every Sunday in the Capital Rotunda where they

 

You have Jefferson to thank for that. After creating the Supreme Court in the constitution then trying to strip that very court of their power, he forced them to institute judicial review to maintain that check and balance.

 

The USA is a SECULAR nation. Religion has NOTHING to do with our government, and the founders intended it to be that way. Keep your faith in church and out of government!

 

70.6 of Americans identify as Christian so we are hardly secular.

 

The revolution was preached from the pulpits. Everyone is supposed to pay attention to politics and vote. Pastors are no different. They have as much right as anyone to express their opinions. They can tell people how they THINK they should vote. They cant make them vote.

 

Not there. Marbury vs Madison is where it comes from.

http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html#jrev

 

We are secular indeed. Citizens can be any religion they want, but they cannot bring that religion into legislating or government business.

 

Different times, different country.
They can tell them how they THINK they should vote outside of church.

 

No they intended to keep government out of religion. Like requiring you to follow the governments religion. They had no problem with pastors encouraging people to vote one way or another or debate political topics. Jeffersons letter that contained this wall of separation was to inform the baptists that the Feds would not mess with their right to worship as they pleased not that they would have no say in politics.

 

One would assume that our laws are based on majority opinion and since that majority is Christian it can also be assumed that those laws are influenced by Christian values. 31 states had amended their constitutions to declare marriage is between a man and a woman...that is consistent with the 70.6 percent of the nation that identifies as Christian. One judge overturned the will of the majority.

 

Free speech extends to the church. Maybe liberal professors should be banned from preaching politics.

 

People have to remember. The Constitution spells out the rights of government. The Bill of Rights spell out the rights of citizens. Once again showing that there is no separation. If there was, it would be spelled out in the Constitution and not in our Bill of Rights. The First Amendment clearly says Congress can not establish a National Church and we have the right to practice our religion freely. Now I have no doubt if someone took it back the the US Supreme Court, the separation ruling would be reversed.

 

Notice how you refused to answer my questions......so I'll post them again-

What's the Law of the Land in the United States?

Find one mention of "Jesus" in the U.S. Constitution.

Find one mention of "God" in the U.S. Constitution.

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Do college professors have tax-exempt status....like churches do???

 

Actually our laws are not meant to be influenced by popular opinion if that popular opinion seeks to either take rights away from a minority, or if the majority wants to institute religious law. And SCOTUS just knocked those state laws down.