What positive things can you say about President Obama?

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  1. thinkitout

    thinkitout Well-Known Member

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    Democrats want to fix it; Republicans want to repeal it, if for no other reason than it has Obama's name on it. I would not hold my breath waiting for a conservative to come up with a better plan. As long as it doesn't have your party's seal of approval, my attempts to change your mind are wasted effort.
     
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    :roflol: How's that Kool Aid treating you? Bailing out failed banks and inflating more economic bubbles in the process, which really is more the Fed's doing than 0bama's, is hardly an accomplishment!
     
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    Democrats refuse to even acknowledge it needs fixing let alone propose any. Republicans agree with the insurance companies that the whole program is unsustainable.

    What are you trying to change my mind about and I have no party I am an independent.

    Again where is Obama it is HIS program and he won't even acknowledge the pain and suffering it is causing and just wants to get out of office and wash his hands of it. A total incompetent and worthless president.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thinkitout...... I do have an idea in mind that could soon be seen to be highly relevant to financing Obamacare?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...national-wealth-must-occur-order-finance.html
    A massive reevaluation of national wealth must occur in order to finance....
    ..... the shift over to a truly green and sustainable economy!

    I just got back a brilliant summary of the numbers for the national wealth of the world's leading economies but.......
    ... it is apparent to me that we must look at these numbers and rethink the entire formula....... if we wish to finance the shift over to a truly green, truly sustainable economy.... and do it with the minimum amount of economic, political and social upheaval?!
     
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    You want to change the nation's wealth? The only way to do that is through jobs. Jobs will bring up the poor. You don't create jobs by increasing taxes on the rich or companies. That only drives them off shore. You only have to read and listen to the news to know that. Obama is already complaining of the rich and companies leaving to excape his tax hikes and forced health care and regulations.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh yes they have. Burnie wants to trash it and start over and Hilary wants to keep it and fix it.
     
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    We really had no choice but to bail out the banks. As much as they hate to, it had to be done.
     
  8. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Near death experiencer Howard Storm was shown a time in the future when virtually all of us place a vastly higher value on the lives of our children!

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04

     
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    In her first stump speech of the 2016 presidential race, Chelsea Clinton is accusing Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders of trying to scrap President Obama’s signature healthcare law in favor of a single-payer system

    "Sen. Sanders wants to dismantle ObamaCare,” Clinton said Tuesday in New Hampshire, according to NBC News, at her first stop along the campaign trail.





    The daughter of Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton referred to a bill Sanders has introduced three times that would replace Affordable Care Act programs with a new national American Health Security Trust Fund, which would allow states to run their own single-payer systems with federal money

    http://64.147.104.30/policy/healthcare/265601-chelsea-clinton-sanders-wants-to-scrap-obamacare
     
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    One of the big problems with implementing Obamacare has been the Republican states' boycott against accepting federal funds to augment Medicaid. We need parity in coverage and AFFORDABLE rates for all as well as universal coverage to make ANY healthcare system successful and acceptable. Those who can afford insurance but defy the mandate are irresponsible and are placing a greater burden on policyholders.

    We are again entering an era which can be likened to the pre-Civil War period, and partisan politics, particularly between states, involve obstruction rather than compromise. WE DO NEED A FEDERALLY- RUN SYSTEM.

    I have seriously considered the allegations against Hillary, but fail to find motivation for illicit personal benefit, and ALL present candidates have questionable backgrounds.

    I am backing Hillary because she is the ONLY candidate COMPETENT to fill the office. She is particularly knowledgeable about little-known underlying problems in the healthcare industry.
     
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    That wouldn't change the rates and we have what we have and it ain't working and needs to be fixed. Obamacare has lessened coverage and made health insurance less affordable.

    So what is Obama doing to fix it? Can you give me anything? Something? Or just blame someone else?

    Yeah like the VA? Like the massive fraud in Medicaid and Disability?
     
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    The figures are indeed interesting, but they only serve to illustrate the enormity of the gap that exists involving the distribution of wealth in the United States. ONLY 2/10 OF ONE PERCENT OF THAT 86 TRILLION DOLLARS (OUR NATIONAL WEALTH) BELONGS TO THE BOTTOM 40% OF OUR NATION!!! The constant drain of capital resources by an overexploitive corporate class has placed an unfair burden on the middle class and government to address deficiencies. IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT WE ARE THE RICHEST NATION IN THE WORLD; WHAT MATTERS IS WHO IS SNATCHING UP AND HOARDING THAT MONEY.

    What I would be interested in hearing is a universally acceptable plan to redistribute that wealth. (I don't think Bernie Sanders has it.)
     
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    Congress has attempted to repeal Obamacare 60 times. I'm sure you realize that there IS a resistance. Do you really think that Republicans are going to ALLOW Obamacare to be fixed this late in his second term, especially in light of the upcoming election?

    To answer your question, I have no inside information on what Obama is doing to fix it, so I will just blame the ANTI-AMERICAN PARTISANS who blocked its sources of funding. I would imagine that Obama is hoping that Hillary's relationship with the next Congress will allow HER to fix it.



    I am all for downsizing government, especially in the levels of hierarchy and excessive number of management staff. However, we must take steps to ensure EFFICIENCY and ACCOUNTABILITY. Government operations can be more economical and ethical if WE take an interest in overseeing it. Government employees were not meant to be welfare recipients.
     
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    he exposed the failure of liberalism to this generation as what Carter did for my generation
     
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    really? what a truly bizarre take on historical facts and reality, care to try again?
     
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    Pardon my intrusion but I am about to send you a personal message that will give you some more information that will elaborate on a theory that I have put forward a while back.

    About a year or two ago a gifted / psychic / zealous Pentecostal Christian friend of mine put a thing on my Facebook wall where she termed me an "Artist!"

    I was scratching my head for months over her doing this........... because I really did not see myself as an artist....... but later on sure enough........ I did come to realize how important it was that this gifted woman make me aware that I do indeed have an artistic streak in there and....... that ability is critical to my role in life?!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...jamin-netanyahu-lets-get-into-production.html
    P. M. Benjamin Netanyahu, let's get into the production of....
    .... semi reality science fiction film projects that are partly financed through alternative local currencies, and/or State currencies, and/or community currencies......... that address specific problems that human beings are facing now in 2015?

    ...............

    Just as the nation of Israel has control of a certain STAGE....... that cannot be replaced...... The TEmple Mount........ so also....... America...... including Hollywood........ is in a position that cannot be rivalled by any other nation!

    The national wealth of America.......... is terribly UNDERVALUED by people with a piece of paper showing that they are ECONOMISTS and/ or accountants....... but they LACK A DEEP APPRECIATION FOR THE OFF THE SCALE "ARTISTIC" VALUE.......... in "America" that could be viewed as a massive film production cooperative........and/or a group of film production companies...... that has no rival...... no equal..... anywhere on the earth?!

    In the right hands..... .an asset that at first would be thought of a having merely "artistic value" can be transformed into educational value...... diplomatic value.... and yes..... even economic value?!


    ............

    What near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley saw happening between the nations of Jordan and Israel......... is not merely a bunch of words on a page!
     
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    I would be tempted to word this in a way that is a little less strong / dogmatic........... there are flaws in "liberalism" ....... serious ones.......... but "liberalism" emerges out of a sincere and relatively generous world view...... and then bureaucrats and politicians take over in the meetings of the people who get together out of good intentions..... and then they twist the ideas that emerge out of those good intentions....... into something impractical and too idealistic........... that just can't quite work!

    Up here in Canada we now have ourselves an extremely interesting Prime Minister who........... obviously means well and cares deeply about some huge questions. In December of 2015 I left the Liberal Party that he leads and joined Canada's Conservative Party in January of 2016....... but I am NOT on the same page as so many active "Conservatives" who criticize P. M. Justin Trudeau so mercilessly!

    President Bernie.... .or President Trump..... or President Hillary...... or whoever you may choose........ would do well to realize that P. M. Trudeau is the PERFECT unofficial USA Ambassador to send to the nation of JORDAN..... with a MASSIVE PEACE DEAL PROPOSAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Retired P. M. Stephen Harper would on the other hand...... or perhaps Mr. Peter MacKay ........would be the perfect person to send to ISRAEL..... with the other part of this full potential peace proposal!!!!!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...ts-take-937-those-syrian-refugees-canada.html
    Mr. Justin Trudeau, let's take 937 of those Syrian refugees to Canada?


    ..................
    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html
    .............Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?
     
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    This is about FIXING it. What have the Democrats even ADMITTED needs to be fixed in it and what have they proposed? IT'S THEIR PROGRAM, onus is on them, ball is in their court, what are they doing to fix this mess?
     
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    I agree with you about this!

    The potential dangers of not..... bailing out those banks seemed to far outweigh the risks involved in doing so!
     
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    You and I have gone on and on about this in several different threads, and my viewpoints, as yours, are not likely to change. Redundant questions will likely get redundant responses, if any.
     
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    It's not a "viewpoint" it is a fact. The Obama administration and the Democrats in Congress have not even admitted it desperately needs to be fixed else quote them where they have. And that let alone present any proposals to fix it else link me them doing so.

    Those are facts not opinion or viewpoints. Why do you insist that it is up to the Republicans to fix THEIR MESS?
     
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    President Obama and his administration have set up The Donald extremely well to play out some sort of role in 2017 that I have read is another Jubilee year!

    The Donald impresses me as the candidate with the political and intellectual courage to tackle this highly controversial topic:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...donald-trump-can-great-president-because.html

    Donald Trump can be a GREAT President because.......



    … of his deep level of empathy with the greatest forces that are keeping the average American down!

    http://www.michaeljournal.org/lincolnkennedy.htm

    .........
    The Fed.......... is set up in such a way that it is extremely useful in causing significant boom and bust cycles..... which tend to break unions. To a segment of the population strong unions are one of the greatest evils in America and the whole world.
     
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    What positive things can you say about President Obama?

    Nothing.... not a damn thing....it has been a horrible 8 years.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But.... the G. O. P. is set up in such a way that
    they might just support a brilliant RINO who can
    get the G. O. P. into the White House again????!!



    A massive INCREASE in LEGAL immigration from
    Mexico and South America could play a role in a major
    boom in the USA economy......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/449323-donald-trump-campaign-film-cartel-land.html

    The Donald Trump campaign and the film "Cartel Land."
    Drug cartels seem to have a great deal of power over the elected officials in Mexico.

    If...… The Donald's supporters will view this film and become more well informed a lot of good things could result from this.

    For one thing..... this could put pressure on Mexico that results in the release of Dr. Jose Mireles!
     

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