Putin purges military after they refuse orders

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  1. Woogs

    Woogs Well-Known Member

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    Take your time. Read carefully. No where in the text do the words 'doctor' or 'amputate' appear.
     
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    The United States very soon will no longer care much about the Middle East....and OPEC is VERY aware of this!!

    Why??

    Because by 2023 the United States and Canada will be 100% COMPLETELY ENERGY SELF SUFFICIENT!!

    Not only is the United States both the #1 Producer of Oil, Natural Gas and Coal.....the U.S. is also the #1 EXPORTER of Natural Gas as we just passed Qatar to become #1, Coal and by 2023 the #1 Exporter of OIL!!!

    And here is the KILLER for Russia and the Middle East.....it is now estimated that the United States ALONE has between 7 Trillion to 17.4 Trillion Barrels of OIL in reserves.

    This is more oil than every other single nation on Earth put together.

    Just the discover in Colorado of another 3 Trillion Barrels of Oil...well that ALONE is more oil than has ever been used in human history!!

    The Oil was always here it just took us over 100 years of technological development and as the U.S. is also the worlds largest CONSUMER of Oil and Natural Gas.....the U.S. SETS THE PRICES!!

    The Middle East will no longer be a National Interest.

    And also Lockheed Martin just had it's 4th successful test of it's Low Temp. Micro Fusion Reactor and there will be Fusion Reactors all over the U.S. by the late 2020's.

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    It's there I JUST watched it!!

    When I find the transcript I will post it but believe me he said it.

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  3. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for the interview. As usual Assad's logic and integrity comes through, so of course those who have none will attack him no end.

     
  4. AboveAlpha

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    Assad is for Assad.

    He plays up the whole....OH...I am saving Christian's thing.

    But he is without a doubt one nasty piece of work.

    You remember how I explained to you how the U.S. Military ordered Assad to use his Military to stop all over the Syrian boarder attacks upon coalition and U.S. Military Forces in Iraq.

    We gave him 24 hours to use his own Military to stop something that HE..Assad supported and supplied as Shia Extremists on the Syrian side of the boarder kept attacking our forces and BOY!! LOL!! Did those Shiite's get a surprise when their own benefactor rounded them up with tanks!! LOL!!

    If Assad did not do this we would have invaded Syria.

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  5. sharik

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    if you mean looting of Baghdad & invading other minor nations, its not what's called battle hardened.
     
  6. Woogs

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    Ok .... I'm gonna back up here and admit I read too fast and didn't see the reference you cited. He did say something along those lines, but did not admit to killing 100,000 civilians, nor was he making that comparison.

    It comes at the end of the interview.

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    Question 79: How do youthink history will remember you?

    President Assad: How I hope history will remember me. Icannot foretell; I am not a fortuneteller. I hope that history will see me as the manwho protectedhis country from terrorism and from intervention andsaved its sovereignty andthe integrity of its land.

    Question 80: Because you know what the first draft of history is saying, that you’re a brutal dictator, youare a man with blood on your hands,more blood onyour handsthan even on you father.

    President Assad: No, again, I will draw that example if youhave a doctor who cut the hand because of a gangrene to save the patient, you do not say he’sa brutal doctor. He’s doinghis job inorder to save the rest of the body. So, whenyou protect your country from the terrorists and you kill terrorists andyou defeat terrorists, you are not brutal; youare a patriot. That is how youlook at yourself, and that’s how the people want to look at you.

    Question 81: And that is how yousee yourself, as a patriot?

    President Assad: I cannot be objective about looking at myself. The most important thing is how the Syrianslook at me, that isthe real and objective opinion, not my opinion. I cannot be objective about myself.

     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    Hey I just saw a short clip ad on NBC 1 minute ago and Assad said EXACTLY what I am telling you!!

    Now I don't know if this question was before, during or after the interview as it is in parts BUT HE DID SAY IT!!

    The transcript for it is probably not out yet but if you want NBC they are showing this in a commercial.

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    HEY!!!

    You know Jeannette you and I and Woogs might have different opinions but I have NEVER...EVER.....just made something up and then posted it and if you had WAITED a few more minutes you can see by WOOGS post #156 that HE DID SAY IT!!

    I do NOT appreciate YOU or WOOGS making derogatory statements about my INTEGRITY as my integrity is quite intact thank you!!

    You how about a little F@#KING civility huh???

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    THANK YOU!!!

    I do not just make statements up!!!

    In the future please do not claim I am doing something like that because I NEVER do!!

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  9. Woogs

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    I already replied about this. You are PARTLY right, but he did not say EXACTLY that.

    The way you put it mischaracterizes his statement. The text is already published as I linked to it before. The entire interview is interesting.

    The question not asked is how many civilians have died as a result of foreign meddling in support of the terrorists. As Assad alluded to in the interview, if it was strictly a Syrian affair, this whole thing would be over in short order. Likely it would have already ended, IMO. So how much blood of innocents does the actions of Turkey, SA, the US, Qatar, et al account for?

     
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    Well I just saw that part briefly and if you look at my post I said...The NBC reporter asked him if he considered himself evil or something like that.......so I admit I was a little off but that was the jist of the question.

    Just do me a favor next time...give me the benefit of the doubt and if there is anything I posted wrong tell me and I will be more than happy to thank you for correcting me.

    But I NEVER just make things up!!!

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    Cool story, but completely irrelevant to my post and the current entanglement of the ME, and typical American response about how great the US is and how the US rule the world economically and militarily, thanks for flexing your muscles for us to see. If this was the case, and America is set up for complete control of the energy market, why would the US bother expending resource with the ME. Morality? lol! No. It is still very significant, and the US has a lot to lose/gain.

    I already know about the future projections of american energy hegemony in the future. How this relates to the ME, Russia, the world, and how/when the US will throw their foreign partners (KSA?) that were used for energy circulation under the bus can be discussed in another thread. I was looking for your source that Russia is/will lose too much $$$ in Syria, causing them to give up and ship out.

    Also, if the US is sitting on this gold mine, how much time before the US is staring down the barrel? Oh, I forgot, the US is immune to any conflict on it's soil because they are the most dominant military this world has ever seen. I wonder what would happen (and I've said this before) if some nation started funding money, (lets say a cool 5 billion?), to empowering the BLM movement. Then start providing them automatic weapons, AA capability and resource movement to black gang members, disgruntled muslims, native americans, or any other jaded beings (Trump voters? :p )ready for change. Then start lambasting the US military for killing it's own people etc etc. Yes this is a long shot, but if you hold something valuable, then people take risks to get a piece.

    America and it's closest allies are working towards a one world order, but how far do they get before someone draws a line? If let's say Russia is facing collapse and they say "one more western move in Syria and we paint the atmosphere orange", what would the US do? I have a feeling someone is close to being able to stave off MAD, and if that happens, someone else's number 1 resource is going to be ash.
     
  12. Woogs

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    Notice I was quick to point out my mistake.

    On this exchange, I think we both were off. He did say something like you said, but not EXACTLY that, as you also said. I would also disagree about the gist of it as he was not admitting to or justifying the killing of civilians and no where, either in the question or answer was the number of dead brought up, as you stated. What you said about it amounts to spin. Be a little more precise/accurate and we can disagree about things of substance in the future.

    Now, enough of beating this horse.




     
  13. AboveAlpha

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    Draw a line where?

    And for what?

    Putin is trying to make that excuse now but as Putin is not insane and Putin cannot make money if he and everyone else is DEAD.....there is no line.

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    Hmm....so you don't remember our previous conversation?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=464978&p=1066399708#post1066399708

    I have asked you several times now to demonstrate one example of a Russian lie. You are very clearly being more than a little dishonesty. I scarcasticly wrote that only your beloved Mother Russia i.e. Mother Putina never lie. You responded with "of course not". I have repeatedly asked you to prove your assertion. If you truly believe Mother Russia lies, if Mother Putina lies, then you should be able to come up with some evidence. But thus far you haven't. I called you and you got caught. You do believe Mother Russia and Mother Putina never lie because you cannot cite even one example of a Russian lie. You believe whatever Mother Russia i.e. Putina tells you and you believe it without question.

    You will bury me will you? :) Well, that's not the first time folks like you have made that threat. Khrushchev made a similar threat. Who got buried? It wasn't the West comrade. As you should well know the USSR no longer exist. It buried itself by attempting to compete with the West.

    If you have evidence of Western lies, bring them on. But you need to make sure you have your facts straight. Our little exchange has proved one thing, and that is you are not honest.
     
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    But what is going on now?
     
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    It's not what Assad says, it is what the Patriarch and Pope have said... and what the American people are not being told.. The terrorists we are supporting are committing a genocide. Everything we do is going to come back and bite us the way it did Nazi Germany.

    The people living there whether they are Shias, Alawites, Sunnis or Christians are human beings, and we have no right to be supporting the terrorists who Turkey is sending in by the thousands every week and who are supported financially by Saudi Arabia. Start growing some humanity. What has Washington ever done that didn't turn into chaos and destruction?


    You are wrong, it's those who are deliberately calumniating him for their own self serving interests who are the nasty piece of work, and if you haven't realized it yet, then I pity you.

    The Shias were coming from Iran, not from Syria. It was Saddam's family that was in Syria, and they are Sunnis... so cut it out Alpha. Assad never bowed to Washington, he has too much integrity for that. If he did, Washington wouldn't have been supporting ISIS, Al Nusra and the rest of the terrorists to overthrow him.

    So let me ask you, what do you gain by making black white, and white black? Does it give you some kind of a psychological high?
     
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    The worse possible thing that Assad could do.

    He is cracking down.

    This will only cause even more Syrian's to hate him and history shows that the harder a dictator cracks down on a civilian population the shorter his reign becomes.

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    No.....I am talking about the Shia Extremists who were launching attacks upon coalition and U.S. Military Forces from the Syrian side of the Iraq boarder.

    We gave him...Assad...24 hours to use his own Military to stop this or else we told him we would invade Syria.

    Look it up!!

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    Oh, then Assad shouldn't be killing the terrorists and allow them to continue the genocides... to please Washington, KSA, Turkey, Israel and the rest of the psychopaths?

    But that's okay Alpha, they are all untermenchens, so it doesn't matter, but it has now hit closer to our lily white cousins. Nice has just been hit by a terrorist attack. It's on RT.
     
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    Is Russia foolish enough to go top war with Japan??? It seems Putin talks about it... :icon_jawdrop:

    Putin, From Monastery Seclusion, Warns “State Of War” With Japan Now Exists.
    https://youtu.be/_eKk7nTlrcg

    [video=youtube;_eKk7nTlrcg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eKk7nTlrcg[/video]

     
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    Don't believe too much of what's written on 'Whatdoesitmean'. Anyway a state of war always existed between Russia and Japan. They never signed a peace treaty.

    It was a religious holiday and Vladimir Putin was on a spiritual retreat. There is no way he would interrupt it with politics.

    [video=youtube;5GiTF2vAvKQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GiTF2vAvKQ[/video]

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    Yes I have come to hate American foreign policy advocated by their Governament's Sate Deparment. A long journey from a teenager that loved them. They have turned me into someone that hates them.
     
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    I have no issue with Assad hitting Terrorists.

    But I do have issue with Assad bombing and shelling heavily populated areas and neighborhoods because his army and the soldiers in it are just too P@##Y go in on the ground to kill Terrorists as instead those COWARDS have absolutely no problem dropping 1000 lbs bombs and HUGE Barrel Bombs from Attack Aircraft in an attempt to kill a few terrorists even if they have to kill 300 men, women and children civilians!!!

    And the Russian's did the same damn thing as they were dropping 1000 lbs bombs right in between very large high rise apartment buildings and when those bombs hit they killed HUNDREDS UPON HUNDREDS of civilians just in a SINGLE BLAST....and considering Russia was dropping 1000 lbs bombs all over the heavily populated areas and neighborhoods in Syria tens of thousands of innocent men, women and children DIED all because both the Syrian and Russian Military DID NOT WANT TO LOOK AS ILL TRAINED AND WEAK AS THEY ARE......because if they had gone in on the ground in such places as THEY SHOULD HAVE.......the whole world would be watching Russian KIDS being pulled out of Syria in BODY BAGS........because they simply are not well enough trained nor do they have the battle hardened and very well experienced CQC...Close Quarters Combat Soldiers like the United States has which are necessary for any successful mission as without such CQC Experienced Soldiers......CNN would be running video of slaughtered Russian kids!!

    Syria and Russia didn't have really well trained CQC or Close Quarters Combat soldiers.....they KNEW that if they brought in on the ground Syrian and Russian Soldiers with very little to ZERO training then it would look like a SLAUGHTER on CNN and other news networks and the LAST thing either Assad or Putin want is to be seen as WEEK and CLUELESS.....which they both are although Putin is not clueless.....so they made the decision that innocent lives lost was NOT as important as THEIR IMAGE!!

    And THAT is why huge Barrel Bombs are being dropped on civilian neighborhoods!!

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