A Palestinian State under US-Israeli Boots

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  1. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    Another Nazi misqoute of Zionist leaders, his real words were "WE'LL KILL YOU ALL!!!! ALL!!!!!! ARRRRGGGGG!!!! ".......more or less.

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    And you didnt so far because ......?
     
  2. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    If you are done, what do you think about the agreement in the OP?

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    How old are you? you sound like someone took your toy....
     
  3. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    Wow.....sounds like you are in a real trouble......if we control everything how will "peace keepers" to Dimona make the change you hope for ? they wont even get clearance to take of...
     
  4. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's see now - during last "uprising", Israelis conducted around 5,000 bombing raids into Gaza, with each plane carrying on average 7 bombs (there are different estimates of number of bombs dropped, ranging from 500 to 1,000 tons.

    If each bomb, as you claim, killed 40-50 Palestinians, that'd be over a one and a half million Palestinian dead. In reality, less then 2,000 Palestinian died, many of them Hamas "freedom fighters". How do you figure?
     
  5. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look. The Jews were ethnically cleansed from each and every Muslim country, and are now congregated on the tiny strip of land, comprising what? 0.1% of all the Middle East? This land was given to the Jews when Israel was created, and Israelies also bought much land from willing Arabs. Let's not forget many wars of aggression against Israel that Israel has won.

    You want Israelies to give up land? Make'm :wall:
     
  6. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Shoot no rockets, stab no people, blow no buses, and blockade will not be needed.

    Easy, really...
     
  7. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only thriving industry Palestnians have is construction and even then their tunnels collapse on their own all the time. This industry leaves no cement for anything else.

    Palestinians have no other know how and do not hone their skills in anything else, other than children skruling.
     
  8. Pisa

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    Uhm, no.

    The reason you helped Israel put up the blockade of Gaza was that the people you didn't like violently took over Gaza shooting and throwing off roofs their coalition partners (very democratic, if you don't ask me).

    There's no wall around Gaza.

    Not enough dead Jews to brighten your days? Poor little Jazz.

    By the way, I hate jazz. Always did.

    The Jew? One Jew prevented the Pals from doing whatever?

    What do I see up in the sky? Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's
    [​IMG]

    Bloop splash.

    And give Israel an excellent reason to flatten Gaza in the process. Good idea. Keep up the good work.

    Is incitement to murder standard procedure where you live?

    One brain wash a day keeps a dirty mind away. Here, try it:

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Gilos

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    None of them gives a damn about Pal lives, they are a tool to an end, that's the biggest challange with the Pal's too, to convinve them to focus on life and the future rather than death and the past.


    I suspect it's Iran, so yea...
     
  10. free man

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    Spoken as a true follower of Hitler.
    At least learn from history, look where the last Jew hate took Europe.
    Coming to think about it, the Arab world is already going there.
    Look at Syria, the place looks just like EU looked after Hitler idiocy ended.
    I guess with people like you, the whole of the middle east will go down in flames, before you learn.
     
  11. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this comment reflects nothing more that anti-Semitism.

    accusing the Jews of seeking world domination, and controlling all the media, is classic anti-Semitic propaganda.

    added to the author's recent thread about isolated cases of pedophilia in the Orthodox Jewish community and Holocaust denial, we see what we are dealing with here.
     
  12. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Palestine has earned its reputation as a terrorist state. Any power they gain will only be used for one purpose and everyone knows what it is. They send their children to throw rocks hoping for casualties to show the world. They launch rockets from populated areas for the same purpose. They would elect ISIS if they could. (It would then become ISISP!)

    They are heroes to those who hate Jews.
     
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    Any power they gain is and will be used to repel the settler-colonists, as any sane people would do.

    Palestinians are (generally) opposed to ISIS and Hamas is not ISIS despite the laughably inept Israeli desire to conflate the two.

    Israel sends soldiers to scream abuse at Palestinian kids and then shoots them when the kids throw rocks in return.

    "Those who hate Jews" are so few in number they're unworthy of discussion unless a person has some cynical gain to be had by maintaining a narrative about them.
     
  14. WillReadmore

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    A Bantustan is an apartheid style homeland, the term being used as a perjotitive. So, that does set a tone for the OP.

    Hamas already acceded to the unity government of Abbas, with violent opposition by Netanyahu targeting its failure. That was a crime. Having Abbas have operational capability in Gaza would make a huge difference. It's a direct approach to reducing Hamas, removing its funding from the border crossings, allowing greater opposition in elections, making the objective of a peaceful resolution more clear, unifying negotiation and removing it from the taint of terrorism.

    Yet, Netanyahu pretty much killed that. One must wonder why.

    Outside of that, I don't see the OP as saying much. No, Palestine will have its part of jerusalem. No, Palestine will be armed, as it will have security work to do. Plus, preventing a sovereign nation from having arms is really not possible.

    I'm not so sure that all Jews would be required to leave Palestine. The issues are borders, property theft and self governance. Those do have to be rectified. Those living in Palestine will all be governed by Palestine. If they are citizens, then they can vote. That's standard.
     
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    A blockade is an act of war. The acts of the state must be judged in that context. And, crimes of individuals should be prosecuted, with it being far easier to do that when there isn't a war in progress.

    Plus, wars end through negotiation, and Israel has refused to negotiate their war on Gaza since the blockade was put in place.
     
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    The blockade was initially engineered as a response to the election that saw members of Hamas win key positions in government.
     
  17. Pisa

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    The elections that brought key positions in government to Hamas took place in 2005.

    Two years, more than 5000 rockets, and one bloody coup later, the blockade was engineered.

    Don't believe me? Google. It's free.
     
  18. Dutch

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    Let me know when you use same harsh language toward Egypt, and we can then have an intelligent conversation.
     
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    Heh.
    A blockade started the 6-day war.
     
  20. Dutch

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    :wall:
     
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    You don't know what you're talking about... do you?
     
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    Jerusalem is the main rub. I'd do with it what the US did when nobody could agree on which state got to host the US Government: Create Jerusalem as an independent city state with the Israeli and Palestinian governments both seating their governments there. Demilitarize it and maintain a UN peacekeeping force to prevent the 2 sides from going to war and allow the city government to run its affairs independent from both sides to avoid the awkwardness that would otherwise arise from both national governments claiming sovereignty over the city. Both sides get Jerusalem as their capital and the city gets away from the geopolitical tug of war. Everyone is happy.

    Naturally such a logical compromise will get shot down as 'compromising the territorial integrity of Israel' and 'allowing the Zionist occupation to continue'. :roll:
     
  23. Pisa

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    Guess in whose Charter is this written:
    How about this:
    Hint: Google. It's still free.

    Who did you say refuse to negotiate?

    *But...but...but...the occupation [​IMG]

    No it's not. Jewish state is the main rub. As long as this issue is not properly understood, and taken care of, there's no basis for any peace process.
     
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    If Israel wanted innocent casualties, they could just launch missiles at populated areas.

    At the first sign of trouble, Israel sounds the sirens and the children are quickly rushed to the shelters. Where are the children on the other side? Would you send your children to throw rocks?

    If they loved their own children as much as they hate Israelis, they could live in peace.
     
  25. SamSkwamch

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    Palestinians elect their government. Another example how you don't know these issues, but for the propaganda they vomit out.

    And here is the point:

    Q - What do you advocate?

    A - We demand, without compromise, the peaceful dismantling of the Israeli state. As to whether or how many Jews may remain there once this process is completed, that decision is totally up to the Palestinian leaders and people.

    http://www.nkusa.org/Books/Pamphlets/Pamphlet.pdf
     

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