The ongoing media propaganda war against Syria

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  1. Thehumankind

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    That is Syrian Soil and preferably they should do their own works and clean up against ISIS not the Russians,
    but first things first, unite again the nation.
     
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    You omitted the mot important piece of information - Russians havebeen inivited by the legitimate Syrian government. Their intervenation is legal and in agreement with international law. Unlike the U.S intervention. We could safely accuse them of an invasion. Who invited them to Syria? Who gave them the right to fly over a sovereign country and conduct bombing raids? You need to try to be more objectivve.

    This is from an American who actually visited Lebanon and talaked to Syrians directly.Syrians know who is their real enemy. They're probably much better informed than Americans.

    Only In The World Of American Media Is Syria A Civil War

    http://www.activistpost.com/2016/10/only-in-the-world-of-american-media-is-syria-a-civil-war.html
     
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    I suggest you read the article before commenting. None of the sources you mentioned were cited in the article. Second, Assad was democratically elected:
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/bashar-al-assad-the-democratically-elected-president-of-syria/5497192

    Your subsequent paragraphs are incomprehensible gibberish. Perhaps, you would like to rephrase them?
     
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    Whaat? That is ridiculous. The two girls aren't even wearing the same kind of clothes and they do not look alike in their faces.
     
  5. Jeannette

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    The Iraqis gassed the Kurds, or don't you remember? It was one of the ruses to demonize Saddam and go to war in Iraq. What was not told, is that the Turks gassed them as well, but they cordoned off the areas in Turkey, so as to keep it secret. This is why Carla DePonti of the UN said that the false flag gas attack in Syria was an excuse to bomb Damascus, and that all signs point to the Turkish MIT which is in cahoots with the Al Nusra terrorist group.

    Many Kurds escaped the Turks by going into Syria. In order to help Erdogan, Assad did persecute the PKK and handed their head Ocalan to Ankara. He has been in a Turkish jail ever since. In gratitude, Erdogan did what he always does. He back stabbed Assad at the first opportunity.
     
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    Excuse me but ISIS is being supported by all those nations who want to overthrow the Assad government for their own self interests. How can a nation no matter how strong fight: US, Britain, France, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, etc., at the same time...

    If those nations feel they have a right to illegally arm and send terrorists into Syria to fight, then why doesn't Assad have the legal right to ask Russia to help them defend themselves?
     
  7. Jeannette

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    I do support the people of Ukraine and Georgia, it's the governments that Washington has put place, and which go against the people's will and welfare that I do not support.

    Take a good look at what Washington's regime change freaks with their one world order agenda has done to them. Both Georgia and Ukraine are dying nations now with no future. They did it to Russia too in the 90's, until Vladimir Putin took over and restored his nation... and this is why Washington hates him.

    They fear Vladimir Putin as well, since it's an encouragement to other nations that they too can stop their servitude and start looking after their own self interests. This is why Washington tries in every underhanded way to get rid of him, (and they have said so many times), even though he is supported by over 80% of the Russian people. But then again so is Assad, and look at what they're doing to him.

    What is humorous and tragic at the same time, is the Obama/Clinton flipping. They are accusing Russia of intervening in the American electoral process... something they have been doing non stop not only to Russia, but to other nations as well through their media propaganda, NGO's and bribes.

    But then again honesty as we know, has never been a virtue among sociopaths.
     
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    I don't follow it that closely ... tribal warfare and pirates are something we shouldn't have to deal with in the 21st century. But certain parts of the world are stuck in the 7th century and we still have these problems.

    I know enough to understand that Erdogan is an ass.
     
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    Actually the faces are the same. They tried to make her fairer looking by brushing her hair and giving it a sheen, that way the Europeans could relate to her. As for the clothes, I tried to figure it out and realized they had ripped off the ruffle on top so that more of the undershirt shows through. I don't know why though, maybe it was torn partly and wouldn't give the right 'clean' illusion.

    As for the White Helmets, it is Al Nusra/Al Queda's propaganda front. They were created and supported by Britain. If they really cared about the people of Syria and it wasn't political, they would mention the attacks by Al Nusra on the civilian areas under Assad's protection. Five children died two days ago, and it was never mentioned. They would also allow aid to reach them... which they haven't as yet.

    Anyway I read today that the Northern part of Aleppo is now in Syrian government hands, thank heaven. Hopefully they will take over the whole city soon ...that is if Washington doesn't intervene in some way ..which they will of course.
     
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    Does the supposed legitimate intervention do any good? as I've said they need mediators and pacifiers there not combatants, supporting either the assad government or the rebel by force will only heap up civilian casualties. One question for you is the Russian and US intervention through force and arms sanctioned by the international community?
     
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    As long as the foreign countries present in Syria will not initiate peace processes but always resort towards bombing raids and more arms, they can be branded as supporters of genocide, I mean both sides.
     
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    Nonsense.. A third of the population has fled the country and prior to the protests in Feb 2011 the agriculture and the oil sector had collapsed..

    Syria has a long history of sectarian strife, military coups and massacres since 1949.

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    He and Putin have mended their fences.
     
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    How do you suppose Putin has increased his personal wealth to 20 billion? Was that "love of country"?

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    Assad isn't going to compromise.. His family would kill him.

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    Assad isn't going to compromise.. His family would kill him.
     
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    In Damascus the new season of women's basketball league of Syria starts. It is an example of bloody genocide of Assad. Which opposes as the USA.

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    And here cut off the head to the child. These are those against whom Assad is at war. "Moderate opposition" which is supported by the USA.

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    You continue to think that questions of genocide or war crimes are important for the USA? Here it is only important for the USA that on the first photo those who support Russia. On the second photo those who against Russia. Therefore the USA will support the second.
     
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    You write it about Turkey?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish–Turkish_conflict_(1978–present)

     
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    1. Urgently report the data to the American government! That it can't find Putin's money in any way to carry out the corresponding impact!

    2. 20 billion are a trifle. Only 1% of GDP of Russia. People in Russia are ready to give 1% of the income in order that the puppet of the USA wasn't in power :)
     
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    The US is in power in Russia.. What are you talking about?
     
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    And it has been this way for a long time. Everyone should read Gen. Smedley Butler's book, War is a Racket. I think he was the most decorated general of his time. He is also the Gen. who busted on the robber baron coup, the planned one, against FDR, created by the elite robber barons, people like the Bush family, George Herbert Walker, and JP Morgan. Butler went before congress and told them about the coup, in which they tried to recruit him to be part of it.

    For if you understand that war is a racket, that benefits the super rich, and that their power upon the current gov't is tremendous, only then will you understand. So what looks like utter insanity and incoherence in what we have done in the middle east can finally offer up a reason for the madness.

    Or, you can believe our nation always wears a white hat and only looks out for the interests of our citizens. The average guy who makes up this nation. What the average guys are used for is cannon fodder, as we are sold patriotism, defending our nation, etc. It is all a racket.

    Now you can call Butler some conspiracy nutter, or you can take a step into what reality really is, and start voting the puppets of the robber barons out of office The first vote would be to vote for trump. As bad as his mouth is, at least unlike the rest of these puppets in DC, he is not owned by the robber barons, that small exclusive cabal of the super rich.

    Or you can vote for another puppet of the robber barons. And continue to be the American Idiot. Yet I figure these idiots cannot be changed, for that is the percentage of the population who have brains that would be dead ends, if not for all of these laws put into place to protect an idiot from his own stupidity.
     
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    No, but I think the U.S. Government is interested in information where Putin stores the money. It were you such fat trump for anti-Putin propaganda! But the U.S. Government doesn't know where there is Putin's money. And how many this money. Therefore, I beg you, immediately report your data to the U.S. Government. It will strike noticeable blow to Putin!
     
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    Watch Putin's Way on pbs.
     
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    Fact is, American media is the 21st Century, Ministry of Truth. Really Orwellian. Have you ever wondered why these men of intelligence and vision wrote such novels way back? They unlike many here, could see where western nations could move to, for he, like Heinlein who wrote about the Crazy Years, could see the beginning of trend, a change, and they just extrapolated it into the future. These men were both right about the future.

    We, beginning with Reagan, have seen a republic changed into oligarchy, fascism. And its not like the hard evidence is not there. It is. You can argue over how this happened, but not that it did not happen. When the Princeton Study, a cooperative study of two major universities, was released, evidencing that we are either moving into oligarchy, or were already there the American media would not touch it with ten foot poll. Yet it was the greatest and important news story of the 21st century, even more important than 911. Clearly MSM including FOX did not do their appointed duties in speaking truth to power, in informing americans what the evidence showed about this gov't. So why is that? Why would they refuse to inform America of the truth, of this Mussolini styled fascism, the collusion between politicians like Bush Sr and others, and the robber barons? I found out about it in the foreign press, and when I did a search it was not in MSM, but it was on every conspiracy nutter site you could find. So, if its relegated to the nutter sites, it must be crazy lies. How (*)(*)(*)(*)ing convenient.

    And so what does this say about MSM? Turn off the political tribal bias, and allow your rational brain to operate for a few seconds. If you can handle what the truth is. Which many of us cannot, and Hillary supporters obviously are just incapable of rationality, logic, reason. For if they were, they could not vote in another treasonous puppet of the robber barons, the oligarchs. Which makes her supporters as dangerous to a republic as any American can be. For because of people like this, has our republic been destroyed, with only the forms still in place as you saw with the romans when they lost their republic.

    As the Princeton Study evidenced, using policy, law, written by congress, signed by the president, for several decades ending in 2012, the American people are not being represented one twit by our gov't, which is no longer by and for the people. This gov't, as evidenced by legislation exclusively represents and gives the elites what they demand. Even when it is hurting the non elites. And this is the tremendous change that began to occur as the FDR model was dismantled, which effectively turned the robber barons loose again to plunder not only foreign nations, but also to plunder the wealth of the middle class, taking from the middle, and filling up the pockets of the elites, especially the robber barons. This is evidenced in the growth in income disparity which reached levels higher than when the robber barons were in power during the Gilded Age.

    This will not change one modern liberal Hillary supporter's mind. And that is because they have been duped by people like her, and our own Ministry of Truth. No, MSM are not in direct cahoots with the robber barons, although these barons own them. But they do not have to be. It is more complicated than that, yet the end result is the same as if they were directly controlled by these elites. And that is all that matters. And yet many people will say that the MSM is biased, and are attracted to sensationalism, in order to make more profits, for that is what sells to a dumbed down American population. But if this is true, then why was the Princeton Study not covered as a major news story? I mean, if you lose your republic to oligarchy, that is a tremendous story and it would bring the advertisers in, right? Or would some of the big companies, who are also owned by robber barons, threaten behind the scenes to pull advertising if such a subversive story, news, was covered the way it should have been? Creating a threat to the status quo oligarchy? It does deserve some serious rational thought, which I do not expect to get from a Hillary supporter.

    I received much of my education right after ww2, when the Nazis had used propaganda to turn germans into what they needed from them. In school I remember well, the day, the class that taught us about propaganda, its purpose, to manufacture consent, and the various tactics which are used. And I see all of this going on with MSM. In fact, the current paradigm could have been used as a classic example of propaganda, and yet when you bring this up, you get cries of conspiracy theory, tinfoil hats, nutters. By the very people in which the propaganda has conditioned their brains, as to make them useless, as consent has been manufactured after years of it, and they are not an aware intelligence, and are incapable of seeing the truth. These people, are clearly dangerous minds, and it is doubtful that they have the processing power, in a corrupted brain to ever get out of their delusion and stupor.

    The only good news is more and more people are waking up, and you see it with sanders supporters, and with trump supporters. Both of which, BTW, were attacked and continue to be attacked by both parties and MSM. The evidence is there for this, thanks to Wilkileaks which revealed the inner workings of the DNC, the collusion between the DNC and some in the MSM.
     
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    This phrase doesn't speak to me about anything. What is "pbs"?
     
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    When Assad was in full power, the Christians were protected and allowed to practice their ways. The rebels and ISIS have managed to kill them all and destroy their churchs. ISIS and the so called rebels are one and the same. We should be helping Russia eliminate both ISIS and the rebels. They are our common enemy.
     
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    What profits were collected from Iraq and Afganistan that cover and exceed the expenses of having them not to mention the loss of political power the Republicans suffered after leading those wars ?

    That one or two super rich got richer I know, there will always be super rich that will profit from some event in the world.....
     
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    Purely out of curiosity, Margot, how do you know what Putin's wealth is? Or is it a case of 'give or take a billion or two'?? [​IMG]
     

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