Are women in politics expected to maintain higher standards?

A relatively unknown congressman wrested the Democratic Presidential nomination from Hillary in 2008. 8 years later she was defeated in the Presidential race by a billionaire real estate mogul who Democratic AND Republican political pundits agreed was “unelectable”. WHAT HAPPENED???

Donald Trump, admitted philanderer and “locker room orator”, was briefly rebuked for his sexual transgressions, while Hillary took a much harder hit for being angry with the objects of her husband’s affections.

Trump ADMITTEDLY misappropriated money from his own charity for personal use, but the Clinton Foundation has been VERY CAREFULLY scrutinized for YEARS for SUSPECTED self-dealing.

18 month investigation to affix blame for an embassy attack in which 4 Americans were killed?

2 years sifting through emails, personal and otherwise?

Would a man have been subjected to this? . . . . Would a man have won???

 

Hillary pretty much proved that wasnt necessary.

 

The Clintons are the most obviously corrupt politicians in US history as a matter of numerous well-documented facts, and to the MASSIVE detriment of this country in so many ways. Pair this with their rank INCOMPETENCE in their jobs and you get a twofer of "wrong for the country." Constant attempts to PROJECT, as OP is doing blatantly in the opening post, Trump's indisputably MINOR history of any wrongdoing to create a false equivalency failed when they were fabricated in the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex, failed in the voting booth, and are failing today right here in this thread.

Essentially, attempts to project Clinton wrongdoing onto Trump equate to compare Sauron with Huck Finn... and the American people full well know that and have responded accordingly, not nearly as stupid as the MSM and public union wings of the Complex (and myself admittedly) assumed in spewing out the bilge of the LW sewer pipe crafted to fool the ignorant, gullible, unscrupulously corrupt, blase' self-absorbed corrupt and the dependent.

It... has... n...o...t...h...I...n...g... to... do... with... Hillary... Clinton's... gender.

Just another repetition of the LW "glass ceiling" lie narrative in action. The "Trump sexists" are -clamoring- for high level appointments for women in the Trump Administration, from Conway to SOS to even Ann Coulter, dispelling the sexist lie of the "uneducated, unwashed, white nationalist, racist, sexist Trump mouth-breathing supporters" big lie narrative of the left out of hand.

Get a new bone to chew on, the resentment bones DON'T WORK ANY MORE and thank goodness (and the net) for that!

 

A conservative man would have been in jail for what Hillary did.

 

Obama already let us know that if we didn't vote for her we were women haters.

Thanks for the update though.

 

In today's polarized atmosphere, man, woman or whatever will have been subjected to the same. Hillary lost in 2008 because she was a dull campaigner. Whereas Obama caused excitement and infused enthusiasm into his supporters much more than Hillary. Obama had a persona that connected with the people, Hillary didn't in 2008 and again in 2016. There are some candidate that connect with the people, FDR had that ability, Reagan and Bill Clinton also. Hillary lacked the spark, she at times seemed very tired, aloof, not sincere.

Trump should have been easy prey, he probably would have been for almost any other Democrat. But he did install excitement and enthusiasm among his supporters. His supporters were willing to go to the far corners of the earth if that is what it took. A good chunk of the Democratic party's base that come out for Obama didn't for Hillary. In 2012, that base made up 38% of the total vote, in 2016, the Democratic base made up 36%. The Republican base improved from 32% in 2012 of the total vote to 33%. That is a 3 point swing from 2012 to 2016.

Obama received 51% of the total vote, Hillary 48%. Exactly the 3 points difference in whom was able to get their base out to vote. The difference in the two party's base vote remained at 5% per Gallup and Pew Research with the Democrats having the advantage in both elections.

Hillary didn't lose because she was a woman, she lost because she could get the Democratic base excited or enthused to go vote. Hillary reminded me a lot of Bob Dole who ran against hubby Bill in 1996, Dole couldn't excite the GOP base back then and a lot of that base stayed home.

 

I believe that the negative PR job done on Hillary to bring her down to Trump's level was facilitated by her being a woman. People were actually excited about voting against her.

 

Hillary was Hillary's own PR job. She has no one to blame but herself for her failings as a human being, her total lack of accomplishments, and her general elitist attitude.

If you didn't notice, calling us misogynists without using the actual words isn't going to be effective for your team anymore. You're welcome to keep doing it though.

 

I believe that the negative PR job done on Hillary to bring her down to Trump's level was facilitated by her being a woman. People were actually excited about voting against her.

 

How many times will you repeat the above mistaken opinion?

Since you are a feminist, I guess the answer to that is "infinitely."

 

Corruption is simply that. It doesn't matter one's gender to be called out on it.

 

Except there was no corruption...at least not with Hillary.

We'll see how it goes with Trump. So far it looks pretty suspect.

 

Dictionary companies are considering placing the same addendum to a pair of long ago defined words; Liar and Corrupt. The addendum is "See Hillary Clinton."

 

Please...show us the corruption.

Not baseless assertions...proof of corruption

 

Yeah, Hillary's negatives were high, right close to Trump's. Since January in almost every poll Trump's and Hillary's unfavorables were between 55-60% of all Americans. Sometime Trump edged above 60. Never in the history of presidential elections did the two major parties offer two more disliked candidates. G.H.W.Bush back in 1992 set the record for the lowest favorable rating among presidential candidates since Gallup started keeping track of them at 46%. Bush was the only presidential candidate from a major party to ever be below 50%, until this year.

Clinton finished according to ABC with a 42% favorable to Trump's 38%, neither was much liked by most Americans. YouGov put both candidates at identical 44% favorable, 54% unfavorable. So this election wasn't about being a woman vs. a Man, it was about whom the voter disliked the least. Perhaps being disliked the least was Hillary, she won 2 million more votes than Trump, but lost the electoral college where it mattered.

Now you may be correct as to the anti Clinton vote. According to the exist polls 55% of those who voted for Trump was an anti Clinton vote. Not necessary for Trump, but against Clinton. 50% of those who voted for Clinton were an anti Trump vote, not necessarily for Clinton, but against Trump. Bottom line is neither candidate was liked by the majority of Americans.

 

Well, then . . . . does partisanship matter?

 

I mistakenly replied to the wrong post, hence the duplication. . . . I find more fault with those who abuse women than with those who defend them.

 

Then why pray tell did donations to the Clinton's charity drop by 75% after the election results came in?

 

Hillary lost because she is Hillary, and to a lesser degree, because she is Bill's wife. It has nothing to do with her gender. It is about her history, her character, and her inability to relate to real world people. She can blame Comey, but it was that deplorable comment that ultimately did her in.

 

WRONG.

Donation dropped by 37% in 2015 because Clinton left the foundation and because of all the right wing attacks.

That's 2015 genius. What year are we in now?

Try again. You failed BIG TIME there.

Stop repeating Fake News

 

You seem to have left out a few factors. I have no doubt that it is because you rely on the MSM for your information. I know that you didn't intentionally omit these Items in order to make an invalid point.

1. The Director of the FBI stated that Hillary Clinton broke the law in her handling of classified emails while Sec of State. What the voters in most states understands is that she committed espionage, and got a free pass for it.

2. Those same voters also understand the there is still an ongoing investigation into Hillary Clinton using the Clinton Foundation for a Pay for Play scheme while she served as Sec of State.

3. More then 4 million Bernie Sanders supporters knew that the DNC worked to cheat their candidate out of a fair chance at the party nomination. So, they retaliated by voting for the Libertarian and Green party candidates.

4. You glossed over the real issue caused by her reaction to Bill Clinton's accusers. The voters in most states understood that Bill Clinton is a sexual predator, and that Hillary provides cover from him. There were several reports by Bill's accusers claiming that Hillary offered money and intimidation to keep them quite. Yet, she still had the gall to claim that she was an advocate for women's rights. She even went so far as to say that women that claim rape should be believed. That of course backfired on her when someone asked about Bill's accusers.

5. Hillary made the mistake of doing nothing to dispel the notion that she was basically going to be an Obama third term. Even going so far as to vow to continue a failed Obamacare program. People are clearly looking for something for something different. Not 4 more years of same old, same old.

I am sure that there are many more issues that came into play, but these are the main ones that cost her the election. It was not because she is a female.

 

1. The Director of the FBI stated that Hillary Clinton broke the law in her handling of classified emails while Sec of State. What the voters in most states understands is that she committed espionage, and got a free pass for it.
Comey stated that no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges based on what he found...and then went on to characterize Clinton's actions in a partisan manner...for nor reason other than to slander her politically. That is NEVER done.

He later interjected himself into the campaign with 11 days to go with what turned out to be NOTHING
2. Those same voters also understand the there is still an ongoing investigation into Hillary Clinton using the Clinton Foundation for a Pay for Play scheme while she served as Sec of State.
There is nothing there and never will be
3. More then 4 million Bernie Sanders supporters knew that the DNC worked to cheat their candidate out of a fair chance at the party nomination. So, they retaliated by voting for the Libertarian and Green party candidates.
Not true at all.
4. You glossed over the real issue caused by her reaction to Bill Clinton's accusers. The voters in most states understood that Bill Clinton is a sexual predator, and that Hillary provides cover from him. There were several reports by Bill's accusers claiming that Hillary offered money and intimidation to keep them quite. Yet, she still had the gall to claim that she was an advocate for women's rights. She even went so far as to say that women that claim rape should be believed. That of course backfired on her when someone asked about Bill's accusers.
You're claiming that Dem voters punished Clinton because she kept her marriage together where Trump was a serial cheater and divorcer? Really?

5. Hillary made the mistake of doing nothing to dispel the notion that she was basically going to be an Obama third term. Even going so far as to vow to continue a failed Obamacare program. People are clearly looking for something for something different. Not 4 more years of same old, same old.

SOME people felt that way Mostly Republicans). The majority of voters did not. She won the popular vote by 2 million

Now...where was all that supposed corruption? Just more Fake News?

 

. . . . And of course, your sources, unlike mine, are not biased. . . . . This election has cast seeds of doubt upon the now-fertile soil of distrust.

 

Everything she did was reevaluated in a light that made it seem like some evil plan that half the nation was waiting eagerly to embrace.

 

A lesbian was elected to be Oregon's governor, an African-American woman was elected to take over a woman's Senate seat in California, Nevada elected the first Latina to ever serve in the Senate, a female wounded warrior was elected to the Senate, Dick Chaney's lesbian daughter was elected to the House, and the first ever Indian-American woman was elected to serve in the House.

Hillary did not lose because she was a woman. Hillary lost because she is Hillary.