Blatant discrimination:’ Christian B&B owner fined $80K for refusing gay ‘wedding’ co

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  1. Cdnpoli

    Cdnpoli Banned

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    are you in need of a safe space there Mr Nick?
     
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    You're a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing bigot.... Every progressive is a bigot...

    You hate Christians and white males....

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    Really?

    I think you need one - that's why your ilk hides in them because they're wrong on EVERYTHING and they hate being called out on their BS...

    You need the safe space...
     
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    Sorry but hotels are no longer allow to be unfriendly to blacks and the same go to restaurants and other places that do business with the public and the same now apply to gays.

    Neither gays or blacks or even gays who are black need to search for friendly businesses and those who own businesses and does not like that fact can sell their businesses to others who will follow the law and common decency,
     
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    You over estimate how many gay couples there are out there. Why would you cater to one group of people when you could cater to everyone? It's good business to make money.
     
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    Of man. This again, For the last time this is not a religious freedom issue, this is pure hate and discrimination practice from people using the vail of religion to justify their illegal business practices.,

    It is not a religious freedom issue, you can practice your religion anyway you want, no one is saying you cant be Christian. This is a business, you have to serve the public without discrimination no matter what your personal beliefs. Same way a realtor cant discriminate against a Muslims or African Americans from buying a house in a white neighborhood. You cant use your so called belief as a reason not to do business with someone.

    And you want to know why it is not a religious freedom issue, it is because you are picking and choosing which belief to use to discriminate against. Read the bible, you will see chapter and verse against divorce, but I am sure you will allow people on their second or third marriages to get married in your venue, but you wont allow a gay wedding. By the way the bible barely mentions homosexuality, especially when you compare what it says against divorce. So that is the meaning of discriminatory practice, and not a religious issue. I do not have my hypocrisy Christian handbook on me, but when you choose to use religion as your reason to not marry one group, but ignore religion and think it is Ok to marry another, than you are a hypocrite, and you are running a discriminatory business, and people can sue you, and they will and should win every time.
     
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    You're the one having a hissy fit over something that has nothing to do with you.
     
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    Oh it has everything to do with me.....

    Unlike you I stand up for the founding documents and individuals rights.

    I'm a classical liberal - a real patriot - not some punk that invokes the Bill of Rights when it benefits my position on issues....

    Customers have ZERO right to be served.

    Oh and if you're going to take the position you're taking then go and condemn labor unions (which you wont do) because labor unions use the same exact position I'm taking here and that is FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION....

    Do you understand freedom of association?
     
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    The Supreme Court says you're wrong. That's the law of the land. End of story.
     
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    So when a restaurant puts up a sign saying "we only serve white people", than you support that?
    Good grieve. You sure got raised up believing in the Jim Crow laws.


    Unfortunately,... it's simply against the law.
    Get used to it already.

    Your fascistic ideals that some people are better than others, hence different treatment,... it has no place in the west
     
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    Wow, activists being tyrants - can't say I'm shocked.

    Enjoy it while it lasts because the SCOTUS is going to be restored with actual justicies - not activists.

    Also, make no mistake - just because something is lawful - doesn't make it right...

    Presently it's lawful to discriminate against Christians and white people - that will thankfully come to an end soon enough. Perhaps within the next year.

    Your discrimination utopia is going to be gone.
     
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    I would support a sign that says "we only serve black people, gay people or Muslims" - yes I would defend that.......

    Sorry if freedom is too hard for you to handle - no wonder you need a government to tell you what to do - to care for you.

    That's the problem with your ilk - you never grew up - you need to be protected from anything you disagree with...
     
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    Posting blind, but why oh why do these idiots actually tell the customer what it's really about? Ego? A desire to wound? Control Freakery?

    This fool could have avoided hosting a gay wedding AND saved $80k, if he'd just told them he was booked out. SOOOOO simple, SOOOOO obvious ..... yet he just couldn't resist the temptation to get on his soapbox. Deserves every bit of that financial punishment.
     
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    Exactly, but it should be their choice. Not the governments.
     
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    Because honest people want to be honest.... Many people - especially Christians don't like to lie - nor should they have to.

    We could also ask why gays don't hide who they are.

    No one should have to hide who they are.... Honesty is the best policy.
     
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    As someone else pointed out, republicans were also in on this decision..
     
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    Your explanation makes sense, Burzmali, but the Supreme Court accommodated the conscientious objection of a closely-held for-profit business in its Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc. decision, so I'm still not clear on where the government is drawing the line here.
     
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    Rules and regulations. If you don't like it go to a country without them. I heard South Sudan is nice this time of year.
     
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    Jim Crow laws telling business how to serve people are just as wrong as todays PC laws telling business how to serve people.

    If you lefties would get the hell out of the way and let the market work, it would solve most of these problems........
     
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    So what.

    Do you think that changes my POV?

    You think I'm a slave to the RNC? no, I'm not a progressive - I don't blindly follow and take the parties positions just because.
     
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    If the rule or regulation had a reason for existing, other than "someone's feelings got hurt" I would agree, but there is no public safety concern here. Next your gonna tell me that a Muslim butcher should be forced to make my sausage.........
     
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    I'd like to see Christians be allowed to discriminate against homosexuals.

    Not me. I want Christians to sing out their discriminatory attitude on the mountains. I want the whole world to see the true nature of the American Christian.
     
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    "we could also ask why gays don't hide who they are"

    But why would you ask them that? You said yourself that you've no problem with gay people. That you're a libertarian, yada yada yada. Why would this even come into your train of thought? Unless you weren't honest when you claimed you had no problems with gay people.
     
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    It's you lot that demands protection from the government so you can discriminate who ever.
    Your view is so 1950's. I laugh at you for failing to get what you want.
     
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    Didn't you hear? The free market is dead. You have a President that doesn't believe in free market. And now republicans don't believe in it either. The republicans are now interventionists. Get with the flow.
     
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    But see the only problem is that Christians aren't hateful bigots..... So you can wish all you like but you're not going to see anything really.

    You know what a Christian would do for a gay? pray for them - thats all - pray.

    See, you have been brainwashed by progressives to believe there is a racist behind every bush and a bigoted Christian in every store just looking to oppress them some gays or blacks.......... That's what the dishonest progressives want you to believe....

    Your politics are built on lies and propaganda...
     

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