Blatant discrimination:’ Christian B&B owner fined $80K for refusing gay ‘wedding’ co

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  1. Cdnpoli

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    They wouldn't try conversion therapy on them? I mean that goes against all of the proof that they did.
     
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    But they don't have to tell an outright lie, they could just say "we're unable to provide the service you're interested in, I'm sorry". There is then no grounds for any kind of suit, regardless of whether the customer suspects (even very strongly) that it's about sexuality. If the customer pushes for more information, the merchant can just repeat the above phrase til the customer goes away. It's an established customer service tactic to repeat the negative politely, when confronted with an argumentative customer. I've done it myself, with quite crazy people. There is no compulsion (legal or otherwise) for a merchant to provide a reason for 'dismissal' ... it's not an employer firing an employee.
     
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    I don't want to discrimiate against anyone, however the United States is a free country so people can discriminate if they want....

    Besides, once again being the progressive that you are you're using OBJECTIVE words like "discrimination"...

    If I don't let a gay man bend me over the table on demand is that "discrimination"? or who decides what discrimination is???

    Presently blacks aren't even charged with crimes when they riot, why wouldn't gays get the same treatment???

    So "discrimination" is very vague.

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    Oh so Christians who are protected by the First Amendment should have to hide the fact they find catering to a gay wedding a contradiction of their religion?

    Meanwhile gays can force their (*)(*)(*)(*) down everyones throats freely and proud?

    Doesn't seem very equal to me.....
     
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    Muslim merchants are never forced to do anything, nor sued, picketed, or protested against. Special rules for Special people.
     
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    And so there always those special kinds of people who demand they can openly discriminate black people for being black.....
    I too laugh at you for failing to get any governmental support for that.
     
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    No, most Christians would not go to extreme measures....

    They would pray for you....

    Problem is that all the media shows are radical Christians -- Oh and they have to look hard to find them -- then they portray the radicals as "mainstream"...

    It's more typical progressive propaganda.
     
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    Haha. My gay friend is always telling us how the guys that dislike him the most are usually the ones who are gay themselves and they are so ashamed of it that they lash out at gay people. Make sense to me. I hope you can accept who you are Nick. It must be hell to live this way.
     
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    They are protected by what law?
     
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    Bend you over a table???????

    You do know that sex between adults has to be consensual, don't you?
     
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    Who cares....

    Do you know what the end result is of a business discriminating against others is?

    No one shops at their store and the free market works its powers and they go out of business...

    Oh yeah, progressives don't understand that -- no like usual they go running to their mommy and daddy AKA federal government to force people to accept them...

    You do realize you can't force someone to like you?

    Don't you see a problem with your demands????

    Don't you see how fascist you are? truth is you're no better than the racist or bigot is because you're as bigoted as they are.
     
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    Sure they are. I read where a Muslim cabbie in MN got fired for not wanting to drive someone who had alcohol. There is always threads like this posted on Reddit. Does it make national news? No. It is a bigger outcry when a Christian is in the middle of it though. You gotta remember the US has a small Muslim population.
     
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    Its a public business so they must obey the same rules every other business does. If they want to discriminate set it up as a members only club, let people join and check to be sure they are the kind of people you want to deal with and only offer services to them and no one else then it would be legal OR if its set-up as a religious non-profit then you can discriminate but if your oprn to the general public your to obey the laws and regulations that apply.
     
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    But buying something from a store is different?

    You do know that gays are basically raping business owners right?
     
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    Mike Pence wants to electro shock the gay out of gay people. And that's not fake news.
     
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    My question is, why do they NEED to tell random customers that their favourite sky deity won't let them feed the gays? What could possibly be driving that but some sort of ego-driven power trip? The merchant wins Jesus points just as surely by refusing the service, and reaps the benefits of not being sued. The gay customer will know the real reason, so the point is made anyway.

    And yes, I think the same applies to gay people who insist on airing their love life in situations where it's irrelevant. The only reason people insist on voicing their truths (at the cost of civic harmony) publically in these kinds of ways is ego. They think it's more important to grandstand, than to be polite and accommodating. No one cares what your 'principles' are, or your 'truth', people just want to get along.
     
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    Businesses are already private....

    They're not the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing government.... The government cant discriminate but a business owner certainly can!

    It's not my (*)(*)(*)(*)ing fault we have tyrant activist SC justicies - your fascist presidents put them there in the first place.
     
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    An 80,000 dollar fine.

    -drops mic
     
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    I get your point but your point is moot....

    Why should a customer tell a business owner they're gay?

    Does being gay get you an automatic pass to be an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)? oh yea, it does give you a pass according to progressives.
     
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    Progs won't mind a drunk being 'discriminated' against. Drunks aren't a preferred Snowflake group. If a Muzzie discriminates against a gay, they don't know what to do - it's two of their preferred Snowflake groups, so they set to 'ignore'.
     
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    Which is wrong BTW....

    It doesn't matter, good people will take care of the fine and help them out.....

    Look, if you want freedom then people need to accept freedom in it's totality.. Presently progressives believe freedom is only here to enforce THEIR ideas and anyone else can go pound sand... That isn't freedom - that is straight up fascism....
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    Gay people have been persecuted against their whole lives and now the environment is a lot more accommodating. It's not an ego thing. They want what everyone else has. Shame on you crank.
     
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    That's my point. Neither should be talking about this stuff, it's utterly irrelevant to an ordinary transaction. In the case of a catering or hosting gig (not an ordinary transaction), where the gay thing will be more relevant to the merchant (but is still irrelevant for the two men getting married), there is the repeated polite decline.
     
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    Ironically the Muslims I know are more accepting about LGBTs than the Christians that I know are.
     
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    He can want all he likes it doesn't mean it's even remotely possible...

    That's the funny thing with progressives they say some poeple want to do all this extreme stuff and then portray their ideas as somehow possible - not only that but "mainstream"...

    If it matters many progressives have said they wanted to cull the white race - especially white men and Chrisitans...

    Can they?

    Hell no.
     
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    What people think is who they are as a person. We are a collective of our thoughts.
     

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